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I watched the Titanic once and that was it for me. It didn't capture my interest any. But otherwise, I normally enjoy Cameron's films.

I've watched it a couple of times and I'm sure I'll watch it again someday. I really enjoyed that movie

I'm with SBG on this one; must admit that Titanic was a movie that didn't do it for me, at all.

If anything, the 1958 movie 'A Night To Remember' (with Kenneth More) was considerably more historically credible.
 
I watched the Titanic once and that was it for me. It didn't capture my interest any. But otherwise, I normally enjoy Cameron's films.

We all can't like the same stuff. :p

In Titanic, I enjoyed the characters, thought Leo really nailed it, a nicely paced human interest story to keep it moving until the collision, great disaster visuals with outstanding cinematography and technical details immersing the viewer into the workings of this grand ship. I also find the story behind the design and building of the Titanic, decisions made to save weight and money, and accusations of sub-standard thin and brittle steel plates to be very interesting.

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I'm with SBG on this one; must admit that Titanic was a movie that didn't do it for me, at all.

If anything, the 1958 movie 'A Night To Remember' (with Kenneth More) was considerably more historically credible.

I remember that movie well, outstanding also. I'm curious to know why you consider ANTR to be more historically accurate?
 
Badlands: think Bonnie&Clyde/True Romance. Pretty much recommending it to you, so if you got a chance to watch it: go for it! :D


Just saw Tenebrea, still good. And Thunderball yesterday, like it a lot. First time I realized that the underwater battle at the end takes forever though, could have done with a little less. Bond's 'breathing thingy' was meant to work for only four minutes anyway!

Eh, not a fan of True Romance. But that's what makes the world go around.

Caught Eddie Murphy's Boomerang again a few days ago. That was a fun flip flop of intimate relationships while at work. And Grace Jones is just so much fun. Funny/entertaining relationship movie.
 
The Wizard of Oz, on the big screen – and Titanic, the disappointment

The Wizard of Oz

… I grew up with WoO. They would broadcast it every year on TV and we all loved it, colorful characters, good songs, strong fantasy story based on a dream, but a 1939 movie that can still be enjoyed for many artistic elements. …

I always enjoy it on TV.

A while back I went to a singalong screening of Wizard of Oz (something like this but elsewhere, maybe Brighton Dome). The singalong was fun enough but more than that, after seeing it on a big screen, I really want to see the movie properly at a cinema.

The tornado coming, in black and white, was surprisingly frightening. I can't imagine getting that on the small screen. Enough said.

Titanic

… Titanic was a movie that didn't do it for me, at all. …

The only part that I found touching was the old couple in bed as the ship sank.

Other parts were spectacular, but some of that spectacle – especially the people falling across the upturned deck and into things on their way down – struck me as tasteless. I know, the direct relatives of most of those people would have been dead when the film screened, but still …

Least realistic, most memorable: the furniture on which the ship's crockery was balanced.

In reality I have yet to see a welsh dresser from which plates do not fall when the dresser is tilted 45° forward :confused:
 
I always enjoy it on TV.

A while back I went to a singalong screening of Wizard of Oz (something like this but elsewhere, maybe Brighton Dome). The singalong was fun enough but more than that, after seeing it on a big screen, I really want to see the movie properly at a cinema.

The tornado coming, in black and white, was surprisingly frightening. I can't imagine getting that on the small screen. Enough said …

That is amazing- WoO singalongs! :) For the time period, that tornado was an impressive pre-CG feat. Black and White Kansas seemed like such a dreary place to live. ;)

Spoilers:
Special effects in 'Wizard of Oz' took real magic

 
On TNT right now is Saving Private Ryan (1998). I haven't seen this one is a very long time.
Following the Normandy Landings, a group of U.S. soldiers go behind enemy lines to retrieve a paratrooper whose brothers have been killed in action.
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The World's Fastest Indian.. Excellent movie starring Anthony Hopkins

"The life story of New Zealander Burt Munro, who spent years building a 1920 Indian motorcycle -- a bike which helped him set the land-speed world record at Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats in 1967."

I LOVED this movie. Saw it at the local art house theater first, sitting right up front, feeling all entwined with the motorcycle innards on screen, feeling engine revs through our bones, --it was terrific! Totally loved Anthony Hopkins in this. Saw it again later on DVD, and while still a lovely movie, it wasn't quite the same immersive experience.
 
I LOVED this movie. Saw it at the local art house theater first, sitting right up front, feeling all entwined with the motorcycle innards on screen, feeling engine revs through our bones, --it was terrific! Totally loved Anthony Hopkins in this. Saw it again later on DVD, and while still a lovely movie, it wasn't quite the same immersive experience.

I've never seen it in the movies, but I bought it on DVD a while back. Watched on my 61" Samsung in surround sound. I thought Anthony Hopkins was incredible as Burt Munro. The supporting cast was top notch as well.
 
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We all can't like the same stuff. :p

In Titanic, I enjoyed the characters, thought Leo really nailed it, a nicely paced human interest story to keep it moving until the collision, great disaster visuals with outstanding cinematography and technical details immersing the viewer into the workings of this grand ship. I also find the story behind the design and building of the Titanic, decisions made to save weight and money, and accusations of sub-standard thin and brittle steel plates to be very interesting.

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I remember that movie well, outstanding also. I'm curious to know why you consider ANTR to be more historically accurate?


ANTR seemed to me to strike a more authentic nuanced and sombre note, and tell the actual story as it unfolded, rather than offer spectacular special effects distractions (both special effects and that godawful love story) instead.

I have to say that I loathed the movie 'Titanic'; I suppose I prefer the tone in my movies to be understated - to me, that makes tragedy more, rather than less powerful. Too many US made movies confuse sentimentality with the expression of powerful emotions, whereas I am of the school that argues 'less is more'.

When telling a historical story, - if it is supposed to be a historical story, or is sold as being a historical story - I prefer the story to be history, not history used as a glamorous setting. Now, I don't have a quarrel with the latter; just don't call it history - call it fiction in a historical setting.


The Wizard of Oz




I always enjoy it on TV.

A while back I went to a singalong screening of Wizard of Oz (something like this but elsewhere, maybe Brighton Dome). The singalong was fun enough but more than that, after seeing it on a big screen, I really want to see the movie properly at a cinema.

The tornado coming, in black and white, was surprisingly frightening. I can't imagine getting that on the small screen. Enough said.

Titanic



The only part that I found touching was the old couple in bed as the ship sank.

Other parts were spectacular, but some of that spectacle – especially the people falling across the upturned deck and into things on their way down – struck me as tasteless. I know, the direct relatives of most of those people would have been dead when the film screened, but still …

Least realistic, most memorable: the furniture on which the ship's crockery was balanced.

In reality I have yet to see a welsh dresser from which plates do not fall when the dresser is tilted 45° forward :confused:

That is amazing- WoO singalongs! :) For the time period, that tornado was an impressive pre-CG feat. Black and White Kansas seemed like such a dreary place to live. ;)

Spoilers:
Special effects in 'Wizard of Oz' took real magic

YouTube: video

Good grief. That final scene, that minute and a half – the end of that scene is the stuff of nightmares. No wonder it was deleted. REALLY dark.

Huntn, thanks for those links …

Huntn, those links were brilliant. Thanks for posting them - they make for unsettling viewing.

The Wizard of Oz is rightly seen as a classic, and the charming and wonderfully lively and inventive book which gave rise to the brilliant movie is also a delight from start to finish.
 
On TNT right now is Saving Private Ryan (1998). I haven't seen this one is a very long time.

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I love that they use, for lack of a better name, the "home movie/documentary" persoective during the opening scene beach assault without making me nauseous. Overall a moving story that show the pain and suffering of war.

Good grief. That final scene, that minute and a half – the end of that scene is the stuff of nightmares. No wonder it was deleted. REALLY dark.

Huntn, thanks for those links …

Your welcome! :)



ANTR seemed to me to strike a more authentic nuanced and sombre note, and tell the actual story as it unfolded, rather than offer spectacular special effects distractions (both special effects and that godawful love story) instead.

I have to say that I loathed the movie 'Titanic'; I suppose I prefer the tone in my movies to be understated - to me, that makes tragedy more, rather than less powerful. Too many US made movies confuse sentimentality with the expression of powerful emotions, whereas I am of the school that argues 'less is more'.

When telling a historical story, - if it is supposed to be a historical story, or is sold as being a historical story - I prefer the story to be history, not history used as a glamorous setting. Now, I don't have a quarrel with the latter; just don't call it history - call it fiction in a historical setting.


Huntn, those links were brilliant. Thanks for posting them - they make for unsettling viewing.

The Wizard of Oz is rightly seen as a classic, and the charming and wonderfully lively and inventive book which gave rise to the brilliant movie is also a delight from start to finish.

Your welcome for WoO. :)

For Titanic, although the love story is fictional, the search for the wreck intertwined with this fictitious person's life was brilliant, and kept the story moving, to give the viewer a sense of life aboard this ship, a depiction of the top eschelion of society (snobbery) as compared to regular people. I felt like I was aboard the Titanic, teleported back in time, :) and found nothing technically to be a distraction nor over the top action. Everything that happened in that movie was believable while showing the dynamics of the Titanic sinking. Special effects were used incredibly well to add to the story imo. James Cameron has always had a real eye for detail. Made in a different technical era, we agree that A Night To Remember is excellent, but reflected in its box office revenue, this is superior to just about every big budget disaster film I can think of, like The Poseidon Adventure. It's like going to see a movie about a plane or train crash and being dissapointed the magnitude of the event is not understated. ;) We'll just have to disagree on this. :)

Thinking of good train crashes, I remember both The Fugitive and The Greatest Show On Earth but in these cases these were momentary events, not movies built around the crashes. It's the spectacle that makes a disaster memorable. Then there is The Impossible where special effects added to the realism of what happened in that survival story. This is the bar all disaster films should reach for. :D
 
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I love that they use, for lack of a better name, the "home movie/documentary" persoective during the opening scene beach assault without making me nauseous. Overall a moving story that show the pain and suffering of war.



Your welcome! :)



Although the love story is fictional, the search for the Titanic intertwined with this fictitious person's life was brilliant, and kept the story moving, to give the viewer a sense of life aboard this ship, a depiction of the top eschelion of society (snobbery) as compared to regular people. I felt like I was aboard the Titanic, teleported back in time, :) and found nothing technically to be a distraction nor over the top action. Everything that happened in that movie was believable while showing the dynamics of the Titanic sinking. Special effects were used incredibly well to add to the story imo. James Cameron has always had a real eye for detail. We agree that ANTR is excellent, but reflected in its box office revenue, this is superior to just about every big budget disaster film I can think of, like The Poseidon Adventure. It's like going to see a movie about a plane or train crash and being dissapointed if it's not understated. ;) We'll just have to disagree on this. :)

Yes, we will, and what is life if everyone agreed on everything?

While the hunt for the wreck was interesting, and Cameron's attention to detail (he used the photographs of the Irish Jesuit priest, Fr Francis Browne - who was an outstandingly good and exceptionally gifted amateur photographer - to set up some of the scenes; indeed, while some were used at the time, most of Fr Browne's own negatives of the Titanic were only discovered in a truck in an attic of a building owned by the Jesuits decades later and their historical worth realised) meticulous, I thought the actual narrative characteristically over-wrought.

I suppose it all does come down to taste - and I have a deep distrust of (and indeed deep dislike of) many of the big budget (and big box office hits) movies which are made in the US.

However, as is so often the case with real life historical tales, real life stories can be every bit as bizarre as fiction. The aforementioned Fr Browne, had been gifted a ticket for two legs of the journey, from Southampton to Queenstown (nowadays Cobh) via Cherbourg. A wealthy family befriended him while he was travelling (and taking photographs) and offered to pay his passage and his return journey should he be permitted to accompany them to the US. Accordingly, he telegraphed, requesting that his order (the Jesuits) grant permission for this, and received a terse reply by telegraph which read "Get Off That Ship - Provincial" (who was the head of the order in the country), whereupon he disembarked at Queenstown, while the Titanic sailed off to her date with destiny.
 
The VP movies that stand out are The Pit and the Pendulem , House on Haunted Hill, The Tingler, House of Wax, The Fly, and a later movie The Abominal Dr Phibes (1971). :)

Nothing beats Vincent Price on a Friday night. Have you seen The Raven (1963) ?
 
Yes, we will, and what is life if everyone agreed on everything?

While the hunt for the wreck was interesting, and Cameron's attention to detail (he used the photographs of the Irish Jesuit priest, Fr Francis Browne - who was an outstandingly good and exceptionally gifted amateur photographer - to set up some of the scenes; indeed, while some were used at the time, most of Fr Browne's own negatives of the Titanic were only discovered in a truck in an attic of a building owned by the Jesuits decades later and their historical worth realised) meticulous, I thought the actual narrative characteristically over-wrought.

I suppose it all does come down to taste - and I have a deep distrust of (and indeed deep dislike of) many of the big budget (and big box office hits) movies which are made in the US.

However, as is so often the case with real life historical tales, real life stories can be every bit as bizarre as fiction. The aforementioned Fr Browne, had been gifted a ticket for two legs of the journey, from Southampton to Queenstown (nowadays Cobh) via Cherbourg. A wealthy family befriended him while he was travelling (and taking photographs) and offered to pay his passage and his return journey should he be permitted to accompany them to the US. Accordingly, he telegraphed, requesting that his order (the Jesuits) grant permission for this, and received a terse reply by telegraph which read "Get Off That Ship - Provincial" (who was the head of the order in the country), whereupon he disembarked at Queenstown, while the Titanic sailed off to her date with destiny.

Thanks for the interesting historical info! :)

Speaking about Cameron's eye for detail, he constantly add elements that make a scene look more realistic such as in True Lies that adds to the suspension of disbelief, although in this case it's a tongue-in-cheek adventure, spy story. The key is this is not a serious story. If it had taken itself seriously, it would not have worked. Such as when Arnold's horse refuses to jump off the top of a hotel, and as he tumbles hanging onto the horse reigns, he drops his gun and you can see it tumbling down although you know he's not hanging from the top of a building. And when a gas truck blows up, Arnold dives into the water and as he swims underwater, you can see the flames shimmering , billowing above him. The bridge sequence was also supurb from a realism standpoint. Most impressive, was having Arnold fly a Harrier in hover mode, and make it look realistic, while fighting a terrorist riding on the back of it. I don't insist that you agree. :D

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Nothing beats Vincent Price on a Friday night. Have you seen The Raven (1963) ?

Probably, I'd have to refresh my memory a bit. :)
 
Thanks for the interesting historical info! :)

Speaking about Cameron's eye for detail, he constantly add elements that make a scene look more realistic such as in True Lies that adds to the suspension of disbelief, although in this case it's a tongue-in-cheek adventure, spy story. The key is this is not a serious story. If it had taken itself seriously, it would not have worked. Such as when Arnold's horse refuses to jump off the top of a hotel, and as he tumbles hanging onto the horse reigns, he drops his gun and you can see it tumbling down although you know he's not hanging from the top of a building. And when a gas truck blows up, Arnold dives into the water and as he swims underwater, you can see the flames shimmering , billowing above him. The bridge sequence was also supurb from a realism standpoint. Most impressive, was having Arnold fly a Harrier in hover mode, and make it look realistic, while fighting a terrorist riding on the back of it. I don't insist that you agree. :D

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Probably, I'd have to refresh my memory a bit. :)

Well, I do recall reading that some of the background scenes (such as when a child was playing with a hoop on the deck or something similar) while lead characters were carrying out a dialogue in the foreground had actually been photographed by Fr Browne and that Cameron went to considerable pains to try to recreate that.

Francis Browne himself was at that time a novice with the Jesuits, and was later ordained in time to serve as a highly decorated chaplain (MC and Bar) with the Irish Guards on the Western Front in WW1. Tens of thousands of his negatives (from the Titanic, from the First World War, from the countries he visited and his everyday life subsequently) were discovered by the Jesuits in the 1980s and are slowly being transferred to a digital format in order to preserve them.

Some - including an excellent book featuring his Titanic photographs - have been published; they are an absolute treasure trove.
 
Whatever's next from the Netflix DVD queue... supposed to have landed today but there was only very very very cold air in the mailbox.

I think it's Blowup. Anyway I want to see that again and meant to have bumped that one up near top slot.

After that some fun, Lunchbox. I'm ready for scenes of India to counteract this cold snap, believe me, even though I like winter. Last night I was watching Before the Rains again, under a thermal blanket, imagining the jungles of Kerala were outside my door.
 
The Raven is a blast, but I'll take Witchfinder General, if I may.

I have not seen Witchfinder General yet. Perhaps a long time ago on BBC Television but I really can't remember. Going to watch it tomorrow. Thank you for the suggestion. I really love this thread. Never been disappointed by any of the movies mentioned here.
 
I have not seen Witchfinder General yet. Perhaps a long time ago on BBC Television but I really can't remember. Going to watch it tomorrow. Thank you for the suggestion. I really love this thread. Never been disappointed by any of the movies mentioned here.


WG is a bit more serious than the Poe adaptations (to put it mildly.) Price was excellent, his turn as Matthew Hopkins made me think of his early dramatic roles more than his horror performances at the time.
 
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