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Kind Hearts and Coronets

Brilliant.



I hope you can forgive me quoting myself but I mention this post because the DVD set I bought was flawed! bah! 1st world problems. So my copy of Kind Hearts and Coronets is damaged and won't completely play the whole film. I rented it from iTunes.

In a word, brilliant!

Ah, I am genuinely delighted that you enjoyed it.

This is what I consider to be a funny, witty, sharp, clever, cynical, supremely sardonic - ah, just flawlessly hilariously intelligent and brilliant - bitter and dark - like bone dry sherry, or seriously dark chocolate (the intellectual equivalent) movie.
 
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Escape from New York (1981) - so this movie pretty much defined my attitude toward certain members of authority and remains so much fun after hundreds and hundreds of viewings, I just love it. I never get tired of it. My constant purchase of almost every version I could get my hands on since vhs in the early 80s speaks to that. It's my all time favorite movie for many reasons, but I just love Snake and the scenarios Carpenter puts him in. It's a rare perfect movie for me.
 
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Brilliant as well...
 
As I've aged, I'm preferring more and more a movie that can engage my mind more with dialogue - good dialogue - to entertain me versus a movie with just non-stop shoot'em up action.

There's a place for action movies in my life, but I'll take the likes of Casablanca or the Maltese Falcon over The Avengers or whatever the next superhero flavor movie of the month is out.

Amen to that, and I agree completely.

I'll add The Third Man (a stunning movie) to your excellent list.

Trying to watch Tulip Fever (2017). Obsession, corruption, deception... what's not to like and there's even more ahead I guess since I've not finished watching it yet.

Well it has its moments, some of them fairly acrobatic and not about tulips at all, hence the R rating I suppose, and some quite comical moments as well, but it has given me more than a few episodes of something that feels a lot like attention deficit disorder. In fact I have more than a slight feeling I should have thrown caution to the winds and read some reviews first. Oh well.

The film does convey the insanity of the tulip craze in the Holland of the late 1630s, and the flowers, when we get to focus on them, are sumptuous. Judi Dench is wonderful and hilarious as the Abbess of a convent caught up in the escalating gains and risks of tulip mania. I'm not really spoiling anything at all when I note in passing the remarks exchanged by two guys scaling the walls of the convent at night to get into the courtyard gardens in order to try to lift some valuable tulip bulbs. The bit was fun and was enough to carry me to the next scenes anyway. :D

"What is this place anyway?"
"A convent."
"We're stealing from nuns?"
"The tulips don't belong to them."
"Whose are they then?"
"Well... they belong to the pope I suppose."
"Ah well then, I don't mind stealing from the pope."​

Sounds fascinating.

If this topic interests you, might I take the liberty of recommending Mike Dash's brilliant book Tulipomania for a very well written and most enjoyable history of that era, a book that deals with this topic, (and one that is blessed with beautiful illustrations as well).

Kind Hearts and Coronets

Brilliant.



I hope you can forgive me quoting myself but I mention this post because the DVD set I bought was flawed! bah! 1st world problems. So my copy of Kind Hearts and Coronets is damaged and won't completely play the whole film. I rented it from iTunes.

In a word, brilliant!

Last night, I went hunting for my own DVD of Kind Hearts and Coronets, as that was exactly what I craved, clever, biting, bitter, brilliant, cynical and hilarious; I couldn't find it and have a horrid sinking feeling I gave it to someone and it has never been returned.

Oh, well; I have ordered a fresh set of Ealing Comedies - timeless and brilliant.

Re Quentin Tarantino, I thought Pulp Fiction clever and savagely funny, cynically amoral, but brilliantly well made, with a superb cast, stunning soundtrack, and breath-taking dialogue.

I loved Jackie Brown - it is still probably my favourite QT movie (by a considerable margin), a superb story brilliantly told with an amazing cast, great dialogue and - again - an awesome soundtrack.

A middle-aged lead, a middle-aged female lead, a middle-aged black female lead - what is there not to like? - and a lovely take on middle-aged - understated and unspoken - bittersweet, but lovely - attraction and romance.

And yes, I enjoyed Django Unchained.

Much of the rest of the oeuvre, I can take or leave, but I am with @kazmac in my reverence for classic spaghetti westerns and their venerable Asian ancestors.
 
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Much of the rest of the oeuvre, I can take or leave, but I am with @kazmac in my reverence for classic spaghetti westerns and their venerable Asian ancestors.

I appreciate what Tarantino did for certain actors and making people aware of the films, casts and crews some would otherwise blow off. I am glad people like his work because it ultimately brings attention to the movies and stories he borrows from.

It is amazing how you can tell the same story over and over again, and with a tweak to the characters, setting or scenario, you made it fresh or new.
 
@SandboxGeneral: Casablanca is almost flawless, cinematic perfection, but I loved - nay, thrilled to - The Maltese Falcon - which I first saw as an undergrad in the 80s - that is a dark, clever, sharp, cynical, world-weary movie, just brilliant - again, what a cast - and what wonderfully breathtaking cinematography.

I cannot recommend these movies highly enough - sheer class and a stunning example of using motion pictures to tell a story.

The Third Man - sheer excellence; Sunset Boulevard, likewise. These are movies about morally murky worlds depicted with insight and intelligence which do not patronise the audience.

If you have a good story to tell, one crammed with unforgettable characters, and played by a seriously good cast, along with a good script - costume and lighting will do the rest - you don't need violence, sensation, or CGI in a movie.
 
Re Quentin Tarantino, I can't believe I forgot to mention that .... While I've forgotten most of the movie, I doubt I will ever forget the first scene of Inglorious Bastards.
 
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Re Quentin Tarantino, I can't believe I forgot to mention that .... While I've forgotten most of the movie, I doubt I will ever forget the first scene of Inglorious Bastards.
All I remember from that was trying to spot original IB director Enzo Castellari in the climatic theater scene towards the end and thought, good way to make $25k eh, Enzo? (QT paid him that for the name and the rights).
 
@SandboxGeneral: Casablanca is almost flawless, cinematic perfection, but I loved - nay, thrilled to - The Maltese Falcon - which I first saw as an undergrad in the 80s - that is a dark, clever, sharp, cynical, world-weary movie, just brilliant - again, what a cast - and what wonderfully breathtaking cinematography.

I cannot recommend these movies highly enough - sheer class and a stunning example of using motion pictures to tell a story.

The Third Man - sheer excellence; Sunset Boulevard, likewise. These are movies about morally murky worlds depicted with insight and intelligence which do not patronise the audience.

If you have a good story to tell, one crammed with unforgettable characters, and played by a seriously good cast, along with a good script - costume and lighting will do the rest - you don't need violence, sensation, or CGI in a movie.
All wonderful movies and I couldn't agree with you more on these thoughts. A lot goes into making a decent movie and its not exclusive to contemporary times either.

Sometimes I feel like the movies that come out anymore are just productions that are crammed and rammed through to the box office for the sake of putting something out. Giving little care for the storyline and characters.

That isn't to say that there aren't still good movies coming out, but I find them few and far between.
 
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[doublepost=1537842551][/doublepost]@Scepticalscribe If it makes you feel any better so far 3 of the 5 discs in my set do not work .. :(

That is deeply depressing.

I sincerely hope that the set that I have ordered will work; otherwise, they will hear back from me.
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All wonderful movies and I couldn't agree with you more on these thoughts. A lot goes into making a decent movie and its not exclusive to contemporary times either.

Sometimes I feel like the movies that come out anymore are just productions that are crammed and rammed through to the box office for the sake of putting something out. Giving little care for the storyline and characters.

That isn't to say that there aren't still good movies coming out, but I find them few and far between.

Agreed.

I really wish movie makers realised that the first thing they are supposed to do is tell a story; everything else (including the setting, lighting, above all, special effects) is subordinate to that - to the story. Yes you are telling it by visual means, but it is still a story.

In STNG, some of the good episodes had impressive special effects, but the effects simply supported and added to the story, - they put what was happening into visual form - but, but, but they never detracted from the story being told.
 
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@SandboxGeneral: Casablanca is almost flawless, cinematic perfection, but I loved - nay, thrilled to - The Maltese Falcon - which I first saw as an undergrad in the 80s - that is a dark, clever, sharp, cynical, world-weary movie, just brilliant - again, what a cast - and what wonderfully breathtaking cinematography.

I cannot recommend these movies highly enough - sheer class and a stunning example of using motion pictures to tell a story.

The Third Man - sheer excellence; Sunset Boulevard, likewise. These are movies about morally murky worlds depicted with insight and intelligence which do not patronise the audience.

If you have a good story to tell, one crammed with unforgettable characters, and played by a seriously good cast, along with a good script - costume and lighting will do the rest - you don't need violence, sensation, or CGI in a movie.
I was in college (1973), in charge of advertising my dorm’s Friday night movie (in the cafeteria) when I discovered Casablanca , and fell in in love with that movie. It was almost like, could they really make movies that good, way back when? I’m also a fan of The Maltese Falcon.

My CGI comment is that it’s getting good enough that when you don’t notice it, that it has hit the mark. Some of the early CGI films I disliked because they looked fake or were highly stylized. Those days seem to be behind us. Even in regular movies, instead of location shooting, you’ll have green screen shooting, where the only reason you may know it’s not real is because, you know what you are seeing can’t be real, like dinosaurs. The original Jurassic Park was a milestone in movie making history.

Here are some examples:
https://digitalsynopsis.com/design/movies-before-after-green-screen-cgi/

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I was in college (1973), in charge of advertising my dorm’s Friday night movie (in the cafeteria) when I discovered Casablanca , and fell in in love with that movie. It was almost like, could they really make movies that good, way back when? I’m also a fan of The Maltese Falcon.

My CGI comment is that it’s getting good enough that when you don’t notice it, that it has hit the mark. Some of the early CGI films I disliked because they looked fake or were highly stylized. Those days seem to be behind us. Even in regular movies, instead of location shooting, you’ll have green screen shooting, where the only reason you may know it’s not real is because, you know what you are seeing can’t be real, like dinosaurs. The original Jurassic Park was a milestone in movie making history.

Here are some examples:
https://digitalsynopsis.com/design/movies-before-after-green-screen-cgi/


@Huntn, I am not speaking about (or writing about) the technical quality of CGI; at its best, it can be outstanding.

My issue is when - having spent a fortune on this tech - those who are making the movie decide that it is all about the wonders of tech and CGI - rather than having these support the story.

When CGI becomes the story, apart from the spectacle, what else is there to see?

Stories work, and they fill an age-old need.

When I was teaching, I realised that (much though it may have been disdained by the academic community), stories worked in the classroom - tell the students the mad stuff that happened, the crazy characters, the unbelievable circumstances, the insane alliances or backstabbing, some wild facts, - and then, once you have their rapt attention, it is very easy to slip in the stuff that they are supposed to know and supposed to have to learn.
 
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@Huntn, I am not speaking about (or writing about) the technical quality of CGI; at its best, it can be outstanding.

My issue is when - having spent a fortune on this tech - those who are making the movie decide that it is all about the wonders of tech and CGI - rather than having these support the story.

When CGI becomes the story, apart from the spectacle, what else is there to see?

Stories work, and they fill an age-old need.

When I was teaching, I realised that (much tough it may have been disdained by the academic community), stories worked in the classroom - tell the students the mad stuff that happened, the crazy characters, the unbelievable circumstances, the insane alliances or backstabbing, some wild facts, - and then, once you have their rapt attention, it is very easy to slip in the stuff that they are supposed to know and supposed to have to learn.


I agree that the movie, and there have been some, where CGI was the main star. And when it was a novelty, they could wow the audience for a while, but now, the story telling regains its stature of importance, along with cinematography of which CGI is an intregal part. What’s interesting is that CGI can touch all genres of movies, especially historically movies, where it has now become very tricky to tell what is on location shooting versus in a warehouse or on the backlot.

Still there are breathtaking scenes that can only be accomplished with CGI. The most impressive example of an imaginary, but completely believable world completely composed of CGI, except for some of the actors, and small sets, would be Avatar.

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All this talk of fx and spectacle vs. story reminds of what a Disney animator said when criticized about the lack of story in the 2010 Alice in Wonderland, that people want spectacle over story.

Sadly, that became the norm, but at least a little of the popcorn stuff is trying to do more with characters and story. If the Captain America movies (esp. Winter Soldier) did not invest in those characters as the source material did, I wouldn’t be so gushy about them.

If the characters and story are given room and allowed to grow or not, I am fine with FX.
 
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Aside from the fact that a lot of the dvd's themselves don't work this has been a pretty decent purchase!

This one was briiliant as well.
[doublepost=1537994455][/doublepost]And this dvd actually did work!
[doublepost=1537994676][/doublepost]So far it seems 3 of 5 are going to be ok. the Man In The White Suit seems to be up and running well enough!
 
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To Kill a Mocking Bird (1962)- a favorite movie. A courtroom drama, a story about racial prejudice, a lawyer’s kids and his defense of a black man accused of rape in the 1930s US South. Regarding the title, a mocking bird represents innocence, and the death of innocence.

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To Kill a Mocking Bird (1962)- a favorite movie. A courtroom drama, a story about racial prejudice, a lawyer’s kids and his defense of a black man accused of rape in the 1930s US South. Regarding the title, a mocking bird represents innocence, and the death of innocence.

Quite possibly my favourite movie. I have always loved it and cannot even begin to count the number of times I have seen it. No other movie even comes close to being so well done, well acted and filmed.
 
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