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1 more post and then avatar for you dietcokevanilla!

well done.

sorry, off topic and i just noticed.

oh, and no music unfortunately....she and i were too busy:D

didn't have time to think about music, it sort of evolved from kissing over a while.....nd the rest as they say is history.

tastic
 
revenuee said:
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the thing about not impressing women is that YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU

There is an old saying that almost every one here has already heard a million times -- "just be yourself"

unfortunatly WAY to many guys are actually not acting like themselves.

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as long as "just be yourself" is not the problem or part of it in the first place ;)

personally i say way too often what i really think. then i'm a rather quite person. but on the plus side i'm a good listener

perhaps i value a possible relationship too little to go towards one in the first place ... i never made any real efforts so far ...
 
i just cant do anything like that whilst listening to music. especially my music collection!
years ago in secondary school I was seeing this real nice girl. and my laptop was plugged into my amp/speakers and we were just kissing with SugaBabes 'run for cover' playing. i was mentally battling an outburst of laughter... then when Spike Milligans 'ning nang nong' came on i just keeled over and fell off the bed :D

i swear... when my and my girlfriend get around to the deed and my brother is playing his distorted ugly-sounding electric guitar in his room next door im going to turn off the power to the house. i can imagine that happening too :eek:
 
revenuee said:
it's cool, it was a fairly long post.

i will clearify a little further because i think it is important for guys to here this, especially all those great guys on this forum that are clearly not getting that action they deserve --

the thing about not impressing women is that YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU

live your life, and lead a no to low bull***** allowed existence.

There is an old saying that almost every one here has already heard a million times -- "just be yourself"

unfortunatly WAY to many guys are actually not acting like themselves.

let me ask you

how many times have you seen a girl with a complete as$hole, and said to youself why is she with him, i'de be SOOO good to her.

how many of you have tons of female friends that tell you that you are such a great/nice guy and any girl would be lucky to have you --- and then these same girls complain to you about the jerks they are dating? further how many of you have told the girl that you had feelings for her? and either she said

"i can't, we are to close"
"i like you as just a friend/brother"

or how many of you ended up actually dating, but the relationship was as disaster? and lost a "friend"?

i'm going to say something that will be hard to hear but it has to be said.

If you are friends with a girl who you have intense feelings for and have not told her, or are waiting for her to see what great guy you are by putting up with her attitute, you are more manipulative and hurting her more then any jerk, badboy, or player EVER WILL.

i have issues with players because they do manipulte girls and tell them what they need to here in order to get what they want. THAT'S WRONG

jerks and badboys are who they are, and women love a guy is true to himself.

so if you are thinking, but i just want a girl to love me for who i am, remember to ask if you really are who you say you are.

there is nothing wrong with being nice, but don't let people walk all over you.

as far as not needing a women? there is one that has managed to slip under the radar and is causing my some mental anguish ie, i like her a lot

i find that a little problematic


I read this and I think only of Tom Cruise in "Magnolia"

but, I think what you are saying is true. You have to be yourself, because even pasty-faced chest-gawkers can get girlfriends, although if you are one you might want to look up every now and then.
 
takao said:
as long as "just be yourself" is not the problem or part of it in the first place ;)

personally i say way too often what i really think. then i'm a rather quite person. but on the plus side i'm a good listener

perhaps i value a possible relationship too little to go towards one in the first place ... i never made any real efforts so far ...

it's not about WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it

communication is 93% non verbal; body language and tone is more important then the actual words.

how do you carry yourself? do you slouch, do you maintain eye contact?

you've probably heard of "women's intuition" well men have it too, women are just better at it because they've developed it better over the years.

i can gage within 3 minutes of talking with a girl if she's into me or not --- usually even less.

what's also important is not rushing, i will go out with a girl at least 10 or 15 times before i even consider a potential relationship -- you gotta make sure that she's got what YOU want in a person.

in a society raised by our mothers we are are shown that women are somehow rare, and that they need to be revered --- they don't.

There is nothing wrong with treating a women like a princess -- but make sure she realizes that you're the king of your kingdom and she's just visiting.

ask any "cool girl" and i she will tell you i'm right

don't ask the femanazis

don't be afraid to tell a women what you think, if she's acting up, don't put up with her ********, call her on it -- there is NO reason why you should submit to someone --- i don't care how attractive she is.

there is an old saying, Find me the most desirable women in the world, and i'll find the guys that got bored of sleeping with them, and tired of listening to their ****.

wow --- i use a lot of old sayings
 
revenuee said:
it's not about WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it

communication is 93% non verbal; body language and tone is more important then the actual words.
<snip>
what's also important is not rushing, i will go out with a girl at least 10 or 15 times before i even consider a potential relationship -- you gotta make sure that she's got what YOU want in a person.
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don't ask the femanazis
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there is an old saying, Find me the most desirable women in the world, and i'll find the guys that got bored of sleeping with them, and tired of listening to their ****.

wow --- i use a lot of old sayings

Although abrasive at times, I agree with the bulk of what you are saying. I think a lot of your points are valid points, but the way they are exercised is of utmost importance to success. I still think that ideally you should both want to impress one another in a relationship.

The 10-15 dates prior to 'dating' is agreed, but are we talking about those one-night connections or are we referring to finding a girlfriend? I think a few of your points need to be restated depending what you are looking for.

"femanazis", great.
 
revenuee said:
it's not about WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it

communication is 93% non verbal; body language and tone is more important then the actual words.

how do you carry yourself? do you slouch, do you maintain eye contact?

hm what does "carry yourself" and slouch mean ?

i'm more of a verbal person myself i'm not sensible to body language
about eyecontact: it depends.. when i'm listening i often turn my head away (i guess i hear better on my right ear than on my left ) and fix my eyes on a point/object to concentrate on the speaker and when i speak for my self i turn the head back (at least most of the time)... but it depends on the situation and alcohol level

revenuee said:
you've probably heard of "women's intuition" well men have it too, women are just better at it because they've developed it better over the years.

i can gage within 3 minutes of talking with a girl if she's into me or not --- usually even less.

well i can't .. even if the girls start talking to me


revenuee said:
-- you gotta make sure that she's got what YOU want in a person.
since i'm not sure of that myself it's kinda problematic ;)

revenuee said:
theory isn't my problem.. it's the implementation ;)
 
efoto said:
The 10-15 dates prior to 'dating' is agreed, but are we talking about those one-night connections or are we referring to finding a girlfriend? I think a few of your points need to be restated depending what you are looking for.

"femanazis", great.

the 10 - 15 in regards to finding a girlfriend

sex is a totally separate thing

takao said:
hm what does "carry yourself" and slouch mean ?

i'm more of a verbal person myself i'm not sensible to body language
about eyecontact: it depends.. when i'm listening i often turn my head away (i guess i hear better on my right ear than on my left ) and fix my eyes on a point/object to concentrate on the speaker and when i speak for my self i turn the head back (at least most of the time)... but it depends on the situation and alcohol level

by carry yourself i mean when you walk in do you communicate power? and slouching means hunched forward, drooping -- basically how is your posture? you can communicate a lot more through better posture.

as far as being sensible to body language ... there is no set formula but pay attention to interactions between people one day, see how the girl communicates with at guy she's interested in, see how she communicates when she's not interested in him.

eye contact is important --- it communicates "i'm not afraid of you" you have to accept evolution in order to understand what i'm saying, i mention this only because i know some people don't and i respect that, but for this conversation, you have to.

basically if we evolved from animals -- in the animal kingdom the goal is the survival and propagation of the species --- in order for the species to survive the the strongest genes must be passed on. NOW ... all males want to pass on their genes, and are designed to do so ... females on the other hand are the ones that need to bare children there fore they only want to to produce the strongest off spring --- this is why we get the ALPHA MALE. we have this same idea with humans ... there are ALPHA MALES and there are BETA males --- the alpha will naturally attract more women -- simply because women see him as genetically strong

were being human comes into play as that we can learn and adopt alpha male qualities. -- you can learn to be more attractive to women.


how?
simple -- note what i'm saying applies to a majority, there are some exceptions but they are not rules, and believe me, this is one place you where the exception IS NOT where you want to be

ACCEPT THAT MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME
women are wired differently then men -- what seems logical to a man makes no sense to a women and vice versa -- they have a lot more going on in their bodies then men do. and they have to deal with a lot more **** then men do.

CONFIDENCE
women are much less superficial then men, men will look to the most attractive female FIRST and will put up with all her ****, because she's beautiful. Women may find a guy "HOT" but that won't be enough to make her attracted to him. and she won't stay with a dumbass

THIS IS ALSO COMMUNICATED THROUGH EYE CONTACT -- always keep eye contact when taking to them, never look away first, and most importantly IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AWAY NEVER LOOK DOWN

DON'T CARE WHAT SHE THINGS OF YOU
I believe that someone else's opinion of me is NONE of my business -- say it 10 times to yourself everyday ... eventually YOU WILL BELIEVE IT and then when you really don't care what someone thinks of you, you'll enjoy your life a lot more.

how many times have you gone out with someone and been completely nervous cause you were worried if she would like you? DON'T think about it, just enjoy the moment and go with it. to many people get nervous -- it's sex not surgery, it took them a lot longer to learn how to fix heart problems surgically then it did how to stick a penis inside a vagina or how to court a women ... it's in you, don't be afraid of it.


takao said:
well i can't .. even if the girls start talking to me


if she approached you, there is something interesting she found about you, half the work is done ... don't worry about it to much

but understanding body language is key -- words can mean nothing


takao said:
since i'm not sure of that myself it's kinda problematic
And here lies the problem ... you are not just going to find it ... define who you are,

no one will love you if you don't love yourself, and no one can know you if you don't know yourself -- no one is just going to give you the answers ... SMARTEN UP
 
Gone for a week, no decent rumors, but hey, there's this thread:

I lost my virginity to no sound at all. My entire family was home, and the door to my bedroom didn't lock. My then-12-year-old brother tended to visit unexpectedly. So, while there was no music, there was the loud pounding sound of my heart in my head.

Yup, my strongest memory of losing my virginity: fear. Good times....
 
PlaceofDis said:
no music, just the sound of the girl moaning
Must have been some pretty thin walls to hear her through them. How about the girl you were with? Anything?
 
I lost my virginity properly to "Beautiful Day" by U2 back when I was 15 from memory.

revenuee said:
...what's also important is not rushing, i will go out with a girl at least 10 or 15 times before i even consider a potential relationship -- you gotta make sure that she's got what YOU want in a person...

I must say your post contained basically everything that I do with one exception.

Every first date I make sure we are near an area that you can walk around in peace (beach, park, etc.) just so we can walk and talk for an hour. I can usually work out if they are my type within that hour as whatever we had done before would have removed their nerves and allowed the real person to appear.

The number of times seeing someone has stopped at that first date is quite sad, but there are plenty of fish in the sea. If only the girl in my sig. was still alive, she passed every single "test". :(
 
jsw said:
Gone for a week, no decent rumors, but hey, there's this thread:


My thoughts exactly!

and uh.. when it happens, I'll tell ya.

I'll just keep the track "Good old fashioned lover boy" playing on a loop in iTunes.

Having Queen playing in the background will be awesome. I loves me the queen. (If he doesn't, home boy can tape his iPod to his back, I'll be listening to Queen!!!)
 
katie ta achoo said:
I'll just keep the track "Good old fashioned lover boy" playing on a loop in iTunes.
Ah, missed that. Saw "Loverboy" and had an 80's flashback... which would be impossible for you. Missed the Queen reference.
 
Line dancing !

rainman::|:| said:
i don't actually remember, so it was probably some popular song of the time on the radio... but the first time i had *good* sex (actually, it was only a few hours later, with a different person) it was to NIN. So, I'm counting it as NIN.
Good grief Paul, you were lining them up even then !!!
He he he,
Grey Beard.
Take a walk on the Wilde side
 
Social etiquette

vniow said:
Same here as well, I was the more quiet one however. ;)
Vniow,
A suitably colour keyed reply. If I recollect I was biting my tongue, but I don't remember if it was so stop me screaming or to not burst out laughing. My Grandma always told us not to speak with our mouth full.
He he he,
Grey Beard
 
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