Hi! I am looking to buy my first Macbook pro. I have searched the internet for days now, consulted the geniuses, but I still can't decide what is the right thing to do. it could be that their similar threads about this around here.. Things that could help you help me: - I am a designer - I am thinking of buying refurbished - my budget is around 1700 - I see this purchase as a long-term investment (maybe old is bad..?) - application I use: Adobe Photoshop, -Illustrator, -InDesign, -Premiere, -After Effects, Autodesk Maya (3D), Ableton (and maybe in the future some CAD and SolidWorks) - Some of these I want to use simultaneously (I opt for RAM 16gb instead of 8gb) - If i buy a 13' I would connect it to a 27' screen when at home - I like power over portability/sleekness. - I live in Netherlands, Europe This is the Macbook pro I want (love it): 15' Macbook pro Retina 2.2ghz i7 quad core, with 16gb ram (2014) http://www.apple.com/shop/product/F...-22GHz-Quad-core-Intel-i7-with-Retina-Display This is an offical Apple refurbished unit but unfortunately only available in de US... it seems... Options that are available to me at this moment are: 13' Macbook pro Retina 2.9ghz i5 dual core, with 16gb ram (2015) https://www.macbizz.com/nl/products...cBook-Pro-13-Retina-29-GHz-Core-i5-16GB-256GB or 15' Macbook pro older version with pumped-up specs... Questions I struggle with: - Will a decent just released dual core i5 I do the job or do I need to have an quad core i7? (Which would be an older version due to my budget!) - Is it an option to buy a refurbished one from 2012? Or is it to old... when thinking long-term - other tips are super welcome Thanks in advance!!