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I know, but that's for manufacturing issues. You would get a new one whether you have a warranty or not.

no, if its a manufacturing issue that occurs after the warranty, you are out of luck*

*unless its a widespread issue that apple addresses later on

But seriously, it should cover accidents. You can't ever make accidents not happen. I sort of do deserve it, not being so careful about it.

Edit: They should also make them water-proof, that way, there would be no problems with water

i fail to see why any company would cover issues that directly result from the user...like spilling water on it

what would be in it for them?
 
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TheSpaz said:
Why is everyone teaching him how to commit fraud? Suck it up. You ruined your iPod. I feel bad for you, but you can't expect Apple to do a thing about it and tricking them is not a good idea.

You're right. It took me ten minutes to do what needed to be done, and it worked like a charm. It's not exactly rocket science; it's a very simple procedure. I have my reasons for defrauding Apple but it's not the "right" thing to do and besides, if someone is not bright enough to figure it out for themselves, it's probably not going to do much good to repeatedly explain the process anyway.
 
I'm not
My Dad's telling me it would look too obvious.
I'm praying to God that they don't look inside the headphone jack.

Judging from many posts I've seen on this forum, it's one of the first things they do.
And regardless of if it's a quarter pink, half pink or fully pink it still indicates water damage and isn't covered by warranty.

Chuck67322 said:
I know, but that's for manufacturing issues. You would get a new one whether you have a warranty or not.

Incorrect. If they didn't have a warranty then they'd expect you to just deal with having a broken iPod even if the problem was due to a manufacturing error. In other words, it is the warranty itself that protects you from any flaws that are Apple's fault. If there was no warranty then Apple wouldn't have to do anything for you, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the fault.
 
Judging from many posts I've seen on this forum, it's one of the first things they do.
And regardless of if it's a quarter pink, half pink or fully pink it still indicates water damage and isn't covered by warranty.



Incorrect. If they didn't have a warranty then they'd expect you to just deal with having a broken iPod even if the problem was due to a manufacturing error. In other words, it is the warranty itself that protects you from any flaws that are Apple's fault. If there was no warranty then Apple wouldn't have to do anything for you, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the fault.

no, if its a manufacturing issue that occurs after the warranty, you are out of luck*

*unless its a widespread issue that apple addresses later on



i fail to see why any company would cover issues that directly result from the user...like spilling water on it

what would be in it for them?

Eh, you're right. But that's all it covers? Besides that, what else is it for?

Judging from many posts I've seen on this forum, it's one of the first things they do.
And regardless of if it's a quarter pink, half pink or fully pink it still indicates water damage and isn't covered by warranty.



Incorrect. If they didn't have a warranty then they'd expect you to just deal with having a broken iPod even if the problem was due to a manufacturing error. In other words, it is the warranty itself that protects you from any flaws that are Apple's fault. If there was no warranty then Apple wouldn't have to do anything for you, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the fault.

Yes, but it's VERY hard to see without a flashlight. I might as well just get a new iPod, but let's see what happens.
 
Yes, but it's VERY hard to see without a flashlight. I might as well just get a new iPod, but let's see what happens.

Yes, and the tool that Apple pulls out to check the indicator is...you guessed it, a miniature flashlight.

Eh, you're right. But that's all it covers? Besides that, what else is it for?

The iPod comes with a booklet that contains warranty information, I suggest you read it.
 
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They weren't nice, and the water sensor was the first thing they checked. Fortunately I had replaced the water sensor so it was impossible to determine that it had gone through the wash. ;)

I hope they're as dumb as yours was. lol
 
mavis said:
They weren't nice, and the water sensor was the first thing they checked. Fortunately I had replaced the water sensor so it was impossible to determine that it had gone through the wash. ;)

Until one of the poor saps at Apple opened it up to see if they could get parts to use in a refurb and saw all the internal sensors has turned pink too (apparently there are sensors inside as well, where the user can't get to them) ;) :p
 
Until one of the poor saps at Apple opened it up to see if they could get parts to use in a refurb and saw all the internal sensors has turned pink too (apparently there are sensors inside as well, where the user can't get to them) ;) :p

Why are the iPod designers such smart-alecks? I mean really! They have to make a way to find out everything, like putting moisture sensors in non-user-accessible parts.

Once I get a new iPod (from the warranty or not), I'm going to insure it, so this won't happen again (or maybe I won't try to turn it on when it's wet, my silly mistake)
 
Yes, and the tool that Apple pulls out to check the indicator is...you guessed it, a miniature flashlight.



The iPod comes with a booklet that contains warranty information, I suggest you read it.

Oh shoot.
I read the warranty too, it said it doesn't cover accidents :(
Or I can go with the "not telling them anything" trick

Edit: what if I tell them that it's fuzz?
 
Oh shoot.
I read the warranty too, it said it doesn't cover accidents :(
Or I can go with the "not telling them anything" trick

Edit: what if I tell them that it's fuzz?

... Fuzz? What?

Dude, just suck it up and add this as an entry to your "what I learned today" diary, or whatever.
 
Why are the iPod designers such smart-alecks? I mean really! They have to make a way to find out everything, like putting moisture sensors in non-user-accessible parts.

You do realise it's not just Apple that does it? Most, if not all, mobile phone and portable device manufacturers put moisture sensors in their products to stop people from trying to scam them.

Edit: what if I tell them that it's fuzz?

What? Do you mean telling them that the pink thing is fuzz? They won't believe you, because it'd be a hell of a coincidence that your iPod stopped working and there just happens to be 'fuzz' in the headphone jack thats the exact same colour as an activated moisture sensor :p
 
... Fuzz? What?

Dude, just suck it up and add this as an entry to your "what I learned today" diary, or whatever.

No
I'll do whatever it takes to get a new one

You do realise it's not just Apple that does it? Most, if not all, mobile phone and portable device manufacturers put moisture sensors in their products to stop people from trying to scam them.

Oh yeah
My cousin said her phone has a moisture sensor too
 
You do realise it's not just Apple that does it? Most, if not all, mobile phone and portable device manufacturers put moisture sensors in their products to stop people from trying to scam them.



What? Do you mean telling them that the pink thing is fuzz? They won't believe you, because it'd be a hell of a coincidence that your iPod stopped working and there just happens to be 'fuzz' in the headphone jack thats the exact same colour as an activated moisture sensor :p

I told them today that it kept crashing. I'm not really into this "lying" stuff, but I just want an iPod touch. It was a gift it wouldn't be nice to the person who gave it me.

Anyway, gotta go sleep.
 
If I wanted to help you reverse the chemical reaction in the water detection label, I'd sell you the info.

But alas, I don't feel like blowing money on a batch of the labels just so I can turn them all pink/blue and test all the common chemicals in the house to see which one reverses them.

Or whether a trip to Home Depot is in order to mix up a custom batch to remove the color, much like check washers do.
 
No
I'll do whatever it takes to get a new one

Let me tell you a story.

In September 2008, my parents bought me a 2G iPod touch from the Apple online store. It was a gift for me, for graduating high school. When it arrived, it had a dent in it - as it was in packaging that was still sealed, it must have happened when it was being manufactured. I contacted Apple and they said if I sent it back they'd give me a new one. Well, I wait two weeks and I suddenly get an email from them - they've decided that even though I received it damaged that they think it isn't a big enough deal to warrant a replacement.
So I get it back. It's then that I also notice that it has a light leak - there was a gap between the screen and the metal backplate through which some of the screen's backlight was shining through. I didn't want to worry about it as I doubted Apple would do anything.
A few weeks pass, and I notice that even though the iPod was in a case where the 'leak' was covered up, dust was still getting inside the device and was settling on the screen. Very noticeable. So, I contact Apple and send it off again.
THIS time, I get the iPod back. Again! The techs say they couldn't find a problem - despite the fact you didn't need to look hard to see all the dust inside the device! So I receive a package with my iPod. It's all wrapped up so that it couldn't get damaged whilst in transit. Opening it, I find to my horror - the entire backplate looks as if it had been rubbed harshly with a piece of sandpaper.
Get on the phone to Apple and demand to speak to someone higher up, that didn't merely work in the call centre. So I get put through to a guy that's in the iPod repairs division. He looks up my record and apparently the lady I organised the service with put that I was reporting a battery problem. So, as a result, only the battery in the iPod was tested and no attention was paid to the screen problems. The guy said he'd look into getting me a replacement, and that I'd hear back from him or an Apple representative by the end of the day.
Two weeks later I had heard nothing. Nothing at all.
Deciding enough was enough, I wrote a nice letter to Apple explaining my predicament. A week later, I receive a letter embossed with the Apple logo. Yay, they're responding to my problem! ...Not. I open it to find that it's merely a default letter explaining how to organise service and how to find out how long is left on my warranty. No one even put effort into the reply, it was just a pre-saved letter that's sent out in bulk.
By this time I've become very, very angry. I organise another service, but this time I do it online, where I can write down the exact problems I'm having. Send it away, and within a few days I get an email saying a replacement is definitely on it's way. The day finally arrives and I open my "new" iPod. An iPod that already has scratches all over it's backplate. It definitely wasn't the iPod I had sent in, but it wasn't in the sort of condition where I'd have given it away saying it was new. So I use it. No light leak. Good. No dents. Good. But then I notice DUST. MORE DUST getting into my iPod.
By this time I'm ready to just snap the damn thing and never buy another Apple product. Apple is getting pissed off with me and said there's nothing they'll do, despite the fact they keep sending me faulty and damaged iPods. So I went out and paid $550, the Australian price for a brand-new 32GB touch.

So basically, my parents lost their hard-earned money getting screwed around by Apple. I also lost my own hard-earned money as a result. Apple doesn't care about making great products that last a long time, they just care about squeezing every cent from the consumer. Technically I was covered under warranty, every problem I had was due to manufacturing flaws and the clumsiness of Apple's own techs. But Apple refused to help. At all.

So there are people out there that have valid claims against Apple with defective products that ARE covered by warranty. It's not fair if they can't get help and can't get a device that works to it's full capabilities while someone puts their iPod in water and expects Apple to just hand them a replacement.

The way you and I got our iPods are similar. They were gifts. The difference is mine was genuinely faulty, yours isn't. Yours is broken due to your own fault. Apple wouldn't help me despite the fact that my problems were covered by warranty, so it sure as hell isn't fair if they help you. At least the person that gave you yours 'lost' their money because of something that YOU did. My parents lost theirs because of Apple, not because of me.

So think long and hard about what you're doing. Do the right thing.

Thank you for your time.
 
Let me tell you a story.

In September 2008, my parents bought me a 2G iPod touch from the Apple online store. It was a gift for me, for graduating high school. When it arrived, it had a dent in it - as it was in packaging that was still sealed, it must have happened when it was being manufactured. I contacted Apple and they said if I sent it back they'd give me a new one. Well, I wait two weeks and I suddenly get an email from them - they've decided that even though I received it damaged that they think it isn't a big enough deal to warrant a replacement.
So I get it back. It's then that I also notice that it has a light leak - there was a gap between the screen and the metal backplate through which some of the screen's backlight was shining through. I didn't want to worry about it as I doubted Apple would do anything.
A few weeks pass, and I notice that even though the iPod was in a case where the 'leak' was covered up, dust was still getting inside the device and was settling on the screen. Very noticeable. So, I contact Apple and send it off again.
THIS time, I get the iPod back. Again! The techs say they couldn't find a problem - despite the fact you didn't need to look hard to see all the dust inside the device! So I receive a package with my iPod. It's all wrapped up so that it couldn't get damaged whilst in transit. Opening it, I find to my horror - the entire backplate looks as if it had been rubbed harshly with a piece of sandpaper.
Get on the phone to Apple and demand to speak to someone higher up, that didn't merely work in the call centre. So I get put through to a guy that's in the iPod repairs division. He looks up my record and apparently the lady I organised the service with put that I was reporting a battery problem. So, as a result, only the battery in the iPod was tested and no attention was paid to the screen problems. The guy said he'd look into getting me a replacement, and that I'd hear back from him or an Apple representative by the end of the day.
Two weeks later I had heard nothing. Nothing at all.
Deciding enough was enough, I wrote a nice letter to Apple explaining my predicament. A week later, I receive a letter embossed with the Apple logo. Yay, they're responding to my problem! ...Not. I open it to find that it's merely a default letter explaining how to organise service and how to find out how long is left on my warranty. No one even put effort into the reply, it was just a pre-saved letter that's sent out in bulk.
By this time I've become very, very angry. I organise another service, but this time I do it online, where I can write down the exact problems I'm having. Send it away, and within a few days I get an email saying a replacement is definitely on it's way. The day finally arrives and I open my "new" iPod. An iPod that already has scratches all over it's backplate. It definitely wasn't the iPod I had sent in, but it wasn't in the sort of condition where I'd have given it away saying it was new. So I use it. No light leak. Good. No dents. Good. But then I notice DUST. MORE DUST getting into my iPod.
By this time I'm ready to just snap the damn thing and never buy another Apple product. Apple is getting pissed off with me and said there's nothing they'll do, despite the fact they keep sending me faulty and damaged iPods. So I went out and paid $550, the Australian price for a brand-new 32GB touch.

So basically, my parents lost their hard-earned money getting screwed around by Apple. I also lost my own hard-earned money as a result. Apple doesn't care about making great products that last a long time, they just care about squeezing every cent from the consumer. Technically I was covered under warranty, every problem I had was due to manufacturing flaws and the clumsiness of Apple's own techs. But Apple refused to help. At all.

So there are people out there that have valid claims against Apple with defective products that ARE covered by warranty. It's not fair if they can't get help and can't get a device that works to it's full capabilities while someone puts their iPod in water and expects Apple to just hand them a replacement.

The way you and I got our iPods are similar. They were gifts. The difference is mine was genuinely faulty, yours isn't. Yours is broken due to your own fault. Apple wouldn't help me despite the fact that my problems were covered by warranty, so it sure as hell isn't fair if they help you. At least the person that gave you yours 'lost' their money because of something that YOU did. My parents lost theirs because of Apple, not because of me.

So think long and hard about what you're doing. Do the right thing.

Thank you for your time.

That story did make me think. But still...
I did it. My report card IS coming in soon, so, I might be able to get a new one. It's not right to fraud.
Also, at least you HAVE an iPod, and I have no money (spent it all on my iMac) nor my parents.

get brain:eek:

Me? It wasn't entirely my fault.

If I wanted to help you reverse the chemical reaction in the water detection label, I'd sell you the info.

But alas, I don't feel like blowing money on a batch of the labels just so I can turn them all pink/blue and test all the common chemicals in the house to see which one reverses them.

Or whether a trip to Home Depot is in order to mix up a custom batch to remove the color, much like check washers do.

It's irreversible, but thanks for trying.
 
Chuck67322, you put your iPod in the washing machine. It is in no way Apple's fault. They do not have to make anything waterproof. If you cared for your electronics, then you would not leave in in your pants to be washed.

You do not deserve a new iPod from Apple because you were negligent. This part of why electronics and plans are so expensive ... because people like you lie to cover your own negligence. As a result, everyone else has to pay more to cover the replacement units.

Who cares that you received it as a present from someone you like? That does not make any difference. Look at it this way, you did not have to buy it yourself, so buying a new one is not as bad as if YOU had purchased the original one.
 
Oh no? So, who snuck it back into your pocket before you did your laundry?

My parents forgot to check my pockets
-_-
I should've checked myself

Chuck67322, you put your iPod in the washing machine. It is in no way Apple's fault. They do not have to make anything waterproof. If you cared for your electronics, then you would not leave in in your pants to be washed.

You do not deserve a new iPod from Apple because you were negligent. This part of why electronics and plans are so expensive ... because people like you lie to cover your own negligence. As a result, everyone else has to pay more to cover the replacement units.

Who cares that you received it as a present from someone you like? That does not make any difference. Look at it this way, you did not have to buy it yourself, so buying a new one is not as bad as if YOU had purchased the original one.

OK, really? You have 4 iPods and I can't have just one iPod touch?
 
OK, really? You have 4 iPods and I can't have just one iPod touch?

I purchased my iPods with my own money and take care of them and don't wash them with my pants. I was not saying you cannot have your iPod touch, I was saying that sometimes you get bad luck and an iPod can fall into a washing machine. But, it is not Apple's responsibility to replace the iPod for you. You should not lie about it to Apple in hopes of tricking them into replacing it for your negligence.

If you owned Apple or a similar company, would you want to lose money by giving out replacements for products that were damage by the user (not under warranty)?
 
I purchased my iPods with my own money and take care of them and don't wash them with my pants.

I have 2 iPhones, an iPod touch, and a 120GB iPod... however, they're still in mint condition because I don't wash them with my pants. I make sure I know where they all are and I make sure they're taken care of. If you would have done the same, you wouldn't be in this situation. I would give you my iPod touch but, how could I trust that you'd take care of it? I still love my iPod touch and even though I have an iPhone, I still use it all the time.
 
I purchased my iPods with my own money and take care of them and don't wash them with my pants. I was not saying you cannot have your iPod touch, I was saying that sometimes you get bad luck and an iPod can fall into a washing machine. But, it is not Apple's responsibility to replace the iPod for you. You should not lie about it to Apple in hopes of tricking them into replacing it for your negligence.

If you owned Apple or a similar company, would you want to lose money by giving out replacements for products that were damage by the user (not under warranty)?

I know, I know. I'm going to buy a new one.

I have 2 iPhones, an iPod touch, and a 120GB iPod... however, they're still in mint condition because I don't wash them with my pants. I make sure I know where they all are and I make sure they're taken care of. If you would have done the same, you wouldn't be in this situation. I would give you my iPod touch but, how could I trust that you'd take care of it? I still love my iPod touch and even though I have an iPhone, I still use it all the time.

I'm getting a new one. I'm also going to be more careful with it, and I'm going to INSURE it, so it won't happen again.
Edit: I keep forgetting to multi-quote...

I have 2 iPhones, an iPod touch, and a 120GB iPod... however, they're still in mint condition because I don't wash them with my pants. I make sure I know where they all are and I make sure they're taken care of. If you would have done the same, you wouldn't be in this situation. I would give you my iPod touch but, how could I trust that you'd take care of it? I still love my iPod touch and even though I have an iPhone, I still use it all the time.

Look, I don't even do my own laundry. My parents do. I'm not saying that it's entirely their fault, it's just that they should've double-checked for me (I already did, nothing inside there).
 
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