I don't know if anyone else makes a 5K panel. Unless it's new production by Samsung.
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What the 5K? A new 5K display????
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Would make sense if they invested in it, as the 4K market is so cheap, vendors need a high profit item again, maybe they are trying to jump start this on the PC side, along with the know sales they will get from the apple side.
They make 5K displays, to be sure, but do they also make the 5K panels or are they sourcing from LG?
It's a pretty niche market and LG had the economies of scale (thanks mainly to Apple) so Dell, HP and Iiyama all used LG's panels in their 5K displays. So it would be interesting if someone else feels it is worth starting to make them, as well.
Guess we'll find out once they ship and we see teardowns.
Fair enough. Nice to see more options in the space considering the issues LG had has with yellowing and LED bleed since Day One.
Which I guess means if Apple decides to add one or all of these suppliers for the Studio Display or the rumored new Studio Display Pro / Pro Display XDR 27, we'll be back to the "panel lottery" threads.
They won't. Samsungs is a PLS panel and Sharps is an IGZIO, which I am sure Apple aren't interested in.Fair enough. Nice to see more options in the space considering the issues LG had has with yellowing and LED bleed since Day One.
Which I guess means if Apple decides to add one or all of these suppliers for the Studio Display or the rumored new Studio Display Pro / Pro Display XDR 27, we'll be back to the "panel lottery" threads.
What I think will happen is that they will upgrade to a higher resolution and size for the next generation, as there isn't really anything new at 27" coming. My suspected list of upcoming and currently shipping panels that Apple may be interested in:
LG 34" IPS/KFS LED at 5120x2160.
LG 31,5" LED/IPS Black at 6144x3456. (I think this is the current XDR panel - And I guess this will go into the Studio Display for the next generation)
LG 31,5" LED/IPS at 7680x4230. (Next XDR panel?)
Samsung 31,5" ?/? at 7680x4230.
AUO 32" AHVA/amLED at 7680x4230. (Next XDR panel? Still think they'll go with the LG above because they have had a long partnership though)
There have been reports (via Dylandkt) that Apple and LG have been testing a 32" 7K external display with MiniLED and ProMotion alongside a 27" 5K display with MiniLED and ProMotion and a 24" display (likely) using the same panel as the iMac.
Now that would make for a nice secondary display along with one of Apple's others as a main display.
Would need to be pretty cheap IMO. I found the 24" iMac annoying small. At $650 or so maybe, maybe not.
Dang a 32" 7K and ProMotion? I wonder what the price range for that would be. The 24" would be interesting if the price is right and could possibly be a more affordable option compared to the ASD for someone with a Mac Mini or MBA. Then of course the middle one is likely the rumored Studio Display Pro.
The number of these, used as "palette" displays would sell so well IMO. of course, price and features apply. and please apple ditch the camera and brains on this one too.
5k in one direction does not make a panel 5k. Calling 5k1440 5k is....well, just wrong. That's why it's called "5k1440". 5k1440 is half the resolution of a real 5k panel. We're talking ~14.8 million pixels vs ~7.4 million pixels. Generally speaking, when referring to a 5k panel, a vertical height of 2880 is implied. So no, Samsung, Sharp, and AUO do not currently (or rather knowingly) produce 5k panels.
That is of course incorrect. While 2880p is the most used when referring to a 5k panel, a 5k panel is of course anything that has 5k in its horizontal resolution, hence the name. You can make up your own definitions of course and use those as you see fit, but don't pretend it is gospel.
Which is also wrong. As specified in my post, only the one from AUO is a 1440p panel. The other two are 2880p.
While technically, that is correct, that is not a convention that any respectable hardware site has adopted. Do a search for "What is 5K resolution" and you will almost universally see 5120x2880 quoted. That is literally why the designations 5k1440 or 5k2k came about, because any reasonable person would realize they are not even remotely the same thing.
Neither Samsung nor Sharp still produce 5k panels. They've both been discontinued for years. LG is currently the only (known) 5K panel producer. We may discover that has changed once their Viewfinity S9 starts shipping, but my money is on them just using LG's panel (although I hope I'm wrong in that regard).
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Perhaps using a single scalar pixel count for something two-dimensional with various aspect ratios doesn't make much sense? Is it too much work to just write what you mean when talking about display pixel counts? Like 5120x2880 and 3440x1440 instead of 4K, 1440p or ridiculous abbreviations like UWQHD+.
Yeah. Or really what people on MR are mostly talking about (and hoping for) is a Retina alternative to Apple/LG. Something that plays very nicely with macOS when it comes to scaling, fonts, etc. That's what I care about.
It's less about "5K" and more about "Retina" IMHO. Ex. the iMac 24" isn't 5K but it is Retina.
Yes, that's an additional layer of confusion, when people use absolute pixel counts when they are trying to talk about a pixel density, or vice versa.
5120x1440 is kind of special. It's less pixels than 4K so it should work on most DisplayPort 1.2 capable GPUs, except some of them don't support width > 4K, such as the AMD GPUs of the MacPro6,1. Same for HDMI 2.0 to DisplayPort adapters; you need a HDMI 2.1 to DisplayPort adapter to get width > 4K.
DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapters should be fine with width > 4K (if the GPU support > 4K).
5120x2880 is possible from DisplayPort 1.2 only if you can find a way to select 6bpc (not macOS). 4:2:0 would also work but only if you have a DisplayPort 1.2 output that goes beyond the DisplayPort 1.2 spec (normally limited to 4:2:2) but I don't know of any 5K panels that support 4:2:0.
DisplayPort 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 adapters should be fine with width > 4K (if the GPU support > 4K).
5120x2880 is possible from DisplayPort 1.2 only if you can find a way to select 6bpc (not macOS). 4:2:0 would also work but only if you have a DisplayPort 1.2 output that goes beyond the DisplayPort 1.2 spec (normally limited to 4:2:2) but I don't know of any 5K panels that support 4:2:0.
Marketing always wins.
Remember when a kilobyte was 1024 bytes? Then remember when it was suddenly only 1000, and the tech world was up in arms about the "deception", taking any chance they could to lambaste any hardware company who switched? And how are computer storage sizes universally measured today?
Marketing always wins.
What I’d really like is a 5K 32” display. I find the slightly larger scaling just right at that screen size. But I doubt it will happen.
There’s a little hope as LG moved its 4K Mac display from 21.5” to 24” with the 24MD4KL once it was no longer designed in cooperation with Apple. It even has dual input and the ability to daisy chain. Exactly the sort of features many of us have been looking for.
So here’s to hoping they make me a 32MD5KL.
There’s a little hope as LG moved its 4K Mac display from 21.5” to 24” with the 24MD4KL once it was no longer designed in cooperation with Apple. It even has dual input and the ability to daisy chain. Exactly the sort of features many of us have been looking for.
So here’s to hoping they make me a 32MD5KL.
Alas a 30" or 32" 5K display would not be "Retina" and arguably would be in the "bad zone" in terms of PPI (as in text would likely look somewhat blurry at normal viewing distances when run in HiDPI mode).