It will be VERY interesting to see what machines/chips don't make the cut GPU-wise for these new display options...
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What the 5K? A new 5K display????
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It will be VERY interesting to see what machines/chips don't make the cut GPU-wise for these new display options...
I wonder the same thing. My bet is Apple wants the universe of potential buyers to be as big as possible. At least the M1P/M chips and better.
Would GPU be the primary limiting factor right now? Is there a question of high refresh at higher resolutions at current I/O speeds? (TB4, etc).
I guess for my part GPU is limiting me even on 60hz displays— I can’t even run a 6k monitor on my 2018 Mac mini without leveraging an eGPU, which I’m not interested in doing. So a new mac will be necessary if I want to move to 6k. Really interested to see how these new displays shake out.
I think even the M1 GPU can handle it since the iPad Pro has supported 120Hz on a 12.9" 2732-by-2048 display with the A12X/A12Z GPU. So M1/M2 Pro/Max/Ultra should have no problems.
The real issue will be the interface. TB4 lacks the bandwidth to support uncompressed 5K@120Hz, much less 6K@120Hz. Display Stream Compression (DSC) might allow for 5K@120Hz, but I believe that would be only at 8-bit color.
The HDMI 2.1 port on the new M2 Pro and M2 Max family machines will be fine since it supports 5K@120Hz uncompressed and 8K@120Hz with DSC so it might be that these new displays have both TB4 and HDMI 2.1 inputs.
Give an unwitting user a 5K display and let them use it for a month. Then take it away and give them a 5k1440 display in return, while telling them it's still the same thing. I promise you they'd either be disgruntled or convinced that their display is broken.
There is marketing, and then there is flat out lying. If it were as simple as marketing then manufactures like LG wouldn't be putting 5K2K all over their product pages, or forgoing the 5K moniker altogether and simply stating 5120x1440 instead. They'd just call it 5K, but they don't do that for a reason.
That was before DisplayPort 2.0/2.1. Alt-DP 2.0 supports uncompressed 6K120 just fine. You could run it over USB-C.
Besides, DSC isn’t the devil. I sincerely doubt any of us can tell DSC from non-DSC.
I run my LG 27" 4K at "3008x1692", the middle setting in Apple system settings, and I have no issue at all with blurry text or anything, and my undestranding is that macOS indeed still uses the full screen resolution in that case.
Because it's not really about 5K. That's the point folks are making earlier in the thread. It's about pixel density. Apple calls the M1 iMac 4.5K which, at 24", has similar density to the 27" 5K ASD which in turn has similar density to the 32" 6K XDR.
I've read someone on Reddit complaining he will only buy a Studio Display v2 if it's 34". As 34" is really the standard in 2023 and 27" starting to feel too small. I agree with that.
Let's hope they will release a larger model because the XDR was only 32".
Let's hope they will release a larger model because the XDR was only 32".
Can you expand a little bit on dual-link SST? Does it mean it requires 2 cables? I have an IX2790 that works fine on Intel DisplayPort to DisplayPort but doesn't work on a M2 Mac Mini with DisplayPort to USB-C. Tried a couple of cables. The display shows backlight that increases if I increase brightness but remains black. I can remote in to the mini and macOS show 5K resolution.
Per (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mini-m1-iiyama-5k-screen.2277256/post-31800558) Iiyama XB2779QQS is now automatically detected by macOS Ventura 13.0.1+.
UPDATE: I was able to get the display to work by connecting the monitor using DisplayPort to USB-C cable to a Dell thunderbolt 4 dock and the dock to the mac mini. Not sure if it needs a DisplayPort to Thunderbolt cable if there is such a thing - any one has any ideas?
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