That's not the point. I have all push off, no app monitoring anything in the background that would need or use data and wifi on, yet something is pinging in the background and ignoring wifi.
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What the frack is using data!?
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That's not the point. I have all push off, no app monitoring anything in the background that would need or use data and wifi on, yet something is pinging in the background and ignoring wifi.
Turn off:
Settings->Locations Services->System Services->Turn off Diagnostics & Usage (sent to Apple (Automatically)
call up your carrier, if your plan doesn't include data, tell them you strictly dont want an phones on your plan to use data. they will stop data or in most cases stop any charges for data even though you may have "small leaks".
It will always use some data. Your phone is just doing the mudane things that phones do like let the tower know where it is located in case someone calls you. If you turn off the 3G (AirPlane Mode) that might stop it. But then you have no phone.
I am glad I still have my unlimited data plan.
I don't have an iPhone yet and I want to confirm this... Can't you turn off your cellular data and your phone and text messages still work? You can then have WiFi on and surf over WiFi only...
That isn't the same as airplane mode which is a one touch button that turns off all communication on the phone.
I have this feature on my evo. I would be really surprised if it isn't on the iPhone.
I remember turning off Ping on my 3GS but can't find where on 4S IOS 5 Where I turn it off
One of the first things I did.
I have a 500mb data add on.
Yes you can.
Also one of the first things I did.
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It's under restrictions.
yes you can:
Settings->General->Network->Cellular Data OFF (Turn off Cellular Data to restrict data to WiFi, including email, web browsing and push notifications)
Data on WiFi you don't get charged. You only get charged accessing data on the 3G network. The 3G network is Cellular Data which you turn off WiFi is not Cellular Data it is WiFi Data which you don't get charged for since you are using your cable or phone internet access.
Well I am asking in relevance to the OP's problem. If he has the cell data off is he still using his data or is his data not off and he is just expecting that everything default to WiFi even when it is on... I plan on trying the 200 mb plan and keeping data off until needed.
oh sorry I thought your first post asking was asking for yourself confirming if it was like your EVO and it was a deciding factor to convert to Apple.
Oh no I am converting... Just waiting on apple to ship me one. After a full week I got to preparing for shipment status yesterday.
But I come from all you can eat wimax data on a rooted evo and I am trying to save cash. Hence 200mb plan... So I want to know every little trick to save my precious data usage. Gonna download opera mini first thing. Been testing it out on evo just to see how much data I can save.
Yep you must be . . . .
All of todays phones use some data on the 3G network.
Come back when you know what you are talking about.
As I already said, explain what this data is, and provide some evidence i.e. links. Come back when you actually have some evidence instead of repeating your unsupported opinion like a stuck record.
rather sad carriers decided to restrict and cap bandwidth like this. Internet can't evolve when people gotta watch their usage even for casual task.
Ask your carrier what the data is, maybe time and location data. Not to mention text messages you might be sending and receiving.
You are still uninformed. The OP is proving my statement by saying that he is still using small amounts of data no matter what. Having a conversation with someone who refuses to "learn" is useless.
You are still uninformed. The OP is proving my statement by saying that he is still using small amounts of data no matter what. Having a conversation with someone who refuses to "learn" is useless.
That proves nothing, for all you know it's an iOS issue. Show your proof that phones use 3G data when on WiFi. Explain how phones can use 3G data when roaming, when roaming data can be switched off without affecting voice or text traffic. Having a conversation with someone who makes a random claim and is not mature enough to back it up but just keeps repeating the same crap is useless. Come back when you grow up.
I use an app called NetStat (the paid version is best due to no ads, and ads = connections) which basically shows all connections your device is using, and trust me even with push off, you have loads being made all the time - this actually drains battery quite a lot since random connections eating just little bits of data randomly for no reason is unnecessary work for the phone, especially cellular data.
Also, I notice when I have these active connections my phone actually lags a little bit too...
I've developed a few tricks to make it so nothing is using data ever, and it annoys me when there is push connections on when I don't even use push, my battery lasts such a long time when my netstat list is blank
Sign out of the "Store" part in settings, being signed in (you get signed in every time you sync to iTunes) creates a push connection that keeps communicating to Apple, signing out kills this.
Turn off sending diagnostic reports to Apple
Make sure email is set to Manual in the "Advanced" part also.
Opening and closing the "Phone" app once after every reboot seems to clear a random push connection, I honestly can't explain this one.
That's about it, people also suggest adding a restriction to "Ping" but afaik this is unnecessary
I'd also like to add my phone uses 0kb data in and out over night, whereas before it would just slowly creep up, trust me 10kb-20kb or so here and there soon adds up into 1mb... which would be 1% of someone's data plan if they have 100mb total
+1 Do this and this makes things so much better believe me.
Signed out if the app store and was recharging my phone so wifi was always on, reset the counter.
Come back an hour later and there is 1kb in and out.
So signing out of the app store makes no difference.
Don't have find my friends and am signed out of find my phone.
Come back an hour later and there is 1kb in and out.
So signing out of the app store makes no difference.
Don't have find my friends and am signed out of find my phone.
If you use any netstat utility you'll quickly discover there is some unsolicited net activity on iphone even when no utility or program is open. On mine there is open socket to push.apple.com (often "hanged" - ie like on pic below open for 46 min with data flowing every few minutes), and every few minutes bunch of http connections is being open to aggregator urls at amazonaws, akamaitechnologies and carriertelia with nothing open and no automatic data retrieval of any kind setup
It's not a lot, but it will add up in terms of data usage...
It's not a lot, but it will add up in terms of data usage...