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What to Expect at Apple's 'Let's Take a Field Trip' Educational Event on March 27
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they tend to lie quite often as well. Jobs saying no need for a stylus...Apple Pencil....
Think the Apple pencil will be supported by the cheaply new iPad. The exclusivity to the pro iPads will end I reckon.
Apple has the IBM partnership to make iPad viable as a mass deployed business device. They need something like it for the education market. I don’t think Apple has the in-house capability to do offer that level of service. They have been getting out of just about all server side offerings.
I would love to be proven wrong on that though.
How about a new MAC MINI? so far overdue "but an important part" to Tim. LOL.
Everything is important. Until it's not. iPods could have been awesome 5.5" games machine if they'd kept developing it. Lighter than Nintentdo Switch or PSP. Add some controllers on the side. All iTunes apps. Wasted opportunity.
Mac Mini with 2018 specs and better prices. Update all the long overdue ones people love. 4K screens. Super wide screens. A decent graphics card for high end users. Easy to cart around.
I hope they do the Pencil. Or a cheaper one. It works. Great for kids too. Add a smart connector too.
Why can't they pull iTunes fully apart? It's a mess that keeps on getting messier since about version 7. Pull Music out. "your music" and "streaming music". Same with Video. Manage it in the app. Like Books does. Podcasts should come out too. Who cares if behind the scenes it is all one library? It tries to do too much and fails. Nested Playlists would be nice and a way to manage/organise them. Some days I just want to delete them all and start again. Ringtones can just disappear... or put into the Phone app.
The advantage the Chromebooks and cheap laptops have is the USB key. Sneaker net. Move files around. I was so happy to hear iOS was getting a Files app... only to never use it! ;(
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and a TouchID button that lets multiple people register and use that phone. Why can't X handle more than one user? Why cant iOS present different screens for each user? I know they are personal devices but people do share in households...
HUGE MAC MINI ANNOUNCEMENT COMING!
Just kidding. You know that's not happening.
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That's probably the most brilliant ideas I've heard in ages. Wow. I'm surprised Apple hasn't thought of this. I see that there are ways to do it via third-party apps, but it's remarkable Apple never built that in (as far as I know. Could be one of those hidden features they seem so fond of.)
Just kidding. You know that's not happening.
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That's probably the most brilliant ideas I've heard in ages. Wow. I'm surprised Apple hasn't thought of this. I see that there are ways to do it via third-party apps, but it's remarkable Apple never built that in (as far as I know. Could be one of those hidden features they seem so fond of.)
Airpower? I thought Apple was releasing Airpower station that I can recharge my phone by walking in a certain radius near Airpower station.
How much in "development resources" does a spec bump require? No one wants the form factor changed, or 3D Touch, or Face ID. Just new processor and memory specs and we're good to go!
Why does MacRumors keep perpetuating this misnomer? There is no such thing as a "low-cost iPhone" - there are just 3 different sizes, with the smallest starting at the lowest price and the larger sizes priced higher. Is the iPhone 8 a "low-cost device" because there is a more expensive iPhone X? Is the 13" MacBook Pro a "low-cost device" just because there is a larger 15" MacBook Pro at a higher price? This is just an attempt at using language to marginalize a product that many are biased against simply because they think everyone should use larger phones. The iPhone SE is Apple's best phone by far. It should be $1000, with the X and 8 priced slightly lower. Now THAT would be pricing for relative quality, usability, and value!
would the pencil work well with the cheaper ipad? I think they don't have a laminated screen so you'd get some nasty parallax going on. I guess it'd be a reasonable compromise for being able to use a decent stylus on non-pro ipads though. Or maybe they go laminated with the new ipad (but that doesn't help keep costs down)
If the new ipad supported the existing pencil I could see myself getting one for my daughter's birthday. She loves it on my ipad pro but only has an ipad mini at the moment.
If the new ipad supported the existing pencil I could see myself getting one for my daughter's birthday. She loves it on my ipad pro but only has an ipad mini at the moment.
Just escalate if Apple won’t take your $1000 surplus payment for an iPhone SE.
On the higher levels, they don’t seem too embarassed for that
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You are absolutely right.
This partnership has the potential to deliver that level of infra and system integration and was intended to do so. But what did it deliver ?
Hopefully, this will be the main announcement of the Chicago event of today, instead of another couple of shiny boxes....
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Can we please stop this $70 cheaper non sense.
It is an Educational Focus event. The iPad educational price is currently at $289, even if Apple were to sell $259 or $249 to High School, it is highly likely these price wont be available to everyday consumers.
I am not sure if School's Library or many other terminals are still using tiny desktop clients. But I dream of a super affordable Mac Mini, if an iPad can be $259 within Apple's margin for educational market, there is no reason why Apple cant have a Mac Mini below $300.
It is an Educational Focus event. The iPad educational price is currently at $289, even if Apple were to sell $259 or $249 to High School, it is highly likely these price wont be available to everyday consumers.
I am not sure if School's Library or many other terminals are still using tiny desktop clients. But I dream of a super affordable Mac Mini, if an iPad can be $259 within Apple's margin for educational market, there is no reason why Apple cant have a Mac Mini below $300.
Yes, this is what could sway a lot of Windows users away. I don't think many Windows users understand until they actually get a Mac just how good they are, but they are put off by the prices.
With a new lower price I would even consider buying a MacBook Air for when I'm on the road on business to supplement my IMac. I cannot justify spending the current high cost for one of these MacBooks when the IMac's are not that far off in price.
What if this cheaper iPad were available only to educational institutes via bulk order purchase only? That could be one way to preserve the exclusivity of the iPad Pro - by making the cheaper iPad not accessible to the average consumer. I will still have to buy the more expensive iPad Pro if I want to be able to use the Apple Pencil.
That would ultimately confirm the suggestion of overpricing - and become the revelation that the whole Pro moniker was actually a pretty bad idea in the first place, for iPads
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I dunno. Didn't Apple once have a line of gimped Macs that were sold only to schools at a small discount?
And "pro" simply means better than the norm. Compared to the iPad, the iPad Pro has better speakers, better display, better specs, is thinner and lighter, better everything. Apple Pencil support is simply one of many features it enjoys, but I can see how someone might get an iPad Pro just for stylus support alone and not really be interested in all the other features.
Heck, that's really the main reason I got my 9.7" iPad Pro, because the writing experience has been unparalleled for me. I find I barely use the speakers because I typically consume music via headphones.
-- "lower-cost Apple Pencil that could be used in tandem with the new low-cost iPad, which would indeed be appealing to schools."
As low-cost Chromebooks become more prevalent in the US education market... Apple's response is an iPad and a pencil?
Will handwriting make a comeback in schools?
I can understand Apple releasing a lower-cost iPad/keyboard bundle for schools.
But I'm not seeing how the pencil is important in schools.
As low-cost Chromebooks become more prevalent in the US education market... Apple's response is an iPad and a pencil?
Will handwriting make a comeback in schools?
I can understand Apple releasing a lower-cost iPad/keyboard bundle for schools.
But I'm not seeing how the pencil is important in schools.
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To me, those were just nominal (if not marginal) improvements in a merely static product category.
Nothing special. I consider the Pro formula a framed expensification under the umbrella of Tim’s Post-PC vision (accomodating the “new mobile generation of freelance” cappuchino-Pro’s that reside in coffee-bars rather than offices. Those that need the latest iDevices to get a millisecond faster response to their new temporary assignment...)
Lots of fluff, in other words
The artificial distinction is exactly as you quote:
If people really would need Pencils, it’s rather not just Pro’s, but merely edu and everyone else meaning that if these become today’s announcements, then it’s exactly how it should have been in the first place.
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The second point is what sticks out to me the most, no pun intended. A female connector makes this thing better and less likely to snap off if your kids come around and fall on it or do what kids do. lol
A significant improvement over the "smart" keyboard would be a backlight. It's hard to see under low light conditions. The other reason for having a good keyboard interface is that virtual keyboards/touch, in their current incarnations, are no match for the hardware keyboard for fast text input. Though touch screens might be adequate - even helpful - for primary grade school levels, kids of high school age really need to learn how to type for entry into college and the job market. The current tablet OS's still lag laptop/desktop OS's for multitasking. Adding a touchscreen to laptops is really a win - if you don't need it don't use it, but if you do you get the best of two worlds for input options.
Thats exactly what its going to be. An iPad with a 9.7 inch screen, an A9 or A10, a non impressive camera, and Apple pencil support. $269 for 32 gigs, 399 for 128 gigs. Education markets will probably be able to by it in the $199-$229 price range. So, about the price of a cheep Chromebook
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1. iPad, 2018, $269 for 32 gigs, $399 for 128 gigs, available for preorder March 30, available April 6.
2. iPhone X, Gold, same dates
3. Apple Airpower, same dates, $169
4. Apple AirPods case, $99.
Thats it.