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It sounds like you can still just walk up and play with the table-mounted Apple Watches, no appointment or staff needed--much like you can play with a MacBook or iPad. Correct?

Actually WEARING it is the only thing that will need an appointment; but that's optional. (Useful if you wonder how the haptics feel, of course, or if you're unsure of your wrist size.)

What methods are competing companies using to let you wear before your buy?
 
lol. That's what I was thinking. Oh that Apple hype just won't stop. I'm still not sold on watches as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone. Except the fitness aspect, but that can be done at a quarter of the price.

A quarter of the price won't get you all of the fitness aspects of this device. The only real competition costs about 60% of the price but is bulky (Microsoft Band).

After spending a lot of time with the MS Band, I can honestly say that I didn't think I'd care about notifications on my wrist but it's really awesome to just leave my phone "wherever" while I'm at home and not go looking for it after hearing a text go off. Or to have my wrist vibrate when I am listening to/playing music. Or to be able to just glance at my watch to check the weather. Or to have actual fitness programs in my watch that alert me to change up resting/walking/running/whatever. Really don't think I'm going to be able to go back...and I'm pretty sure people are going to find the same thing with this watch.

They may have found the same thing with an Android watch, but even Apple haters didn't seem to buy those.
 
It sounds like you can still just walk up and play with the table-mounted Apple Watches, no appointment or staff needed--much like you can play with a MacBook or iPad. Correct?

Actually WEARING it is the only thing that will need an appointment; but that's optional. (Useful if you wonder how the haptics feel, of course, or if you're unsure of your wrist size.)

What methods are competing companies using to let you wear before your buy?

I'll be buying 2 rMBs on the 10th and will do personal pickup. Most likely they will have a table of the Watches available for walk-ins just like the other products.
 
Personally, I would rather not be manipulated by a giant corporation.. Just let the product sell itself, like every other Apple product that's been released. Is the watch more important/different from buying an iPhone? They just stick the iPhones on a table and let you go to work on them.

It sounds like the watch won't even be functional. It's going to be playing a loop, supposedly showing off its features. I dunno man, it sounds like this device doesn't have all that much to offer, and Apple knows it. That's why we see such a large marketing sell to the general public. More work is needed to sell the device. For fitness purposes, seems like the watch may fit a purpose, even if it's impact even in that area I feel will be minimal. But for anything else? It's an expensive and rather pointless device. I also think Apple has not fully appreciated just how difficult it's going to be to get the masses to put something on their wrist. Especially when those same individuals will stand out to the rest of society as an early adopter of the Apple Watch. Screams a bit fan boyish, which is perfectly fine for some people, but for most, it's not.

You consider customer care "manipulation"? A new product category needs a little more nudging than just a commercial showing the watch spinning around. The fact that this device is a fashion accessory means people need to try them on. It's not manipulation, it's just organized.

The fact that you think it's pointless kind of reveals exactly why you're projecting that Apple thinks it doesn't have much to offer. And then you go on to say Apple doesn't appreciate how difficult it's going to be to get someone to put something on their wrist...yet they're offering services to make that easier...and have been quoted saying that young people do not wear watches anymore.

And yes, my one biggest gripe about this product is the negative connotation of wearing it in public. Among certain crowds, mainly those with your mindset, I will look like I'm either stupid for buying a pointless device or a complete fanboy for it being an Apple product. Meanwhile, my MS Band is bulky to wear and doesn't fit in most of my shirt sleeves...but nobody knows what it is. And so, quite the contrary to what most people think of Apple users, I hide my Apple stuff so as to not give off any preconceptions about who or what I am.

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Except there wasn't anything like the ipad on the market at the time. There are many watch options available, and none of them are setting the world on fire.

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Like an iPhone?

Less than 9% of the internals of an iPhone are made in Korea. Most of it is, in fact, Japanese. And you're crazy about the tablets - they were just like smartphones, popular among a certain group of people but a total flop with the public.
 
And Angela has had big success in her past, so why not try it her way? The last Apple Retail VP (from JC Penny I think?) did not work out that well.

The guy 'from JC Penny' that you're talking about is Ron Johnson who came to Apple from Target and helped introduced Apple Retail stores and was a massive succes at Apple but not so good when he left to look after JC Penny.

The guy who replaced him was John Browett from a UK electrical chain called Currys and was a total flop and only lasted a few months. So far, Angela Ahrendts is doing a really good job and I think she could be the next Apple CEO after Tim.

Sad I knew that all without googling :D
 
The guy 'from JC Penny' that you're talking about is Ron Johnson who came to Apple from Target and helped introduced Apple Retail stores and was a massive succes at Apple but not so good when he left to look after JC Penny.

The guy who replaced him was John Browett from a UK electrical chain called Currys and was a total flop and only lasted a few months. So far, Angela Ahrendts is doing a really good job and I think she could be the next Apple CEO after Tim.

Sad I knew that all without googling :D

Yes, thank you for correcting me. I mixed up the last two retail VPs and did not give Ron Johnson enough credit for his accomplishments at Apple. And, as you said, he went "to" JC Penny as opposed to "from". Thanks.
 
The guy 'from JC Penny' that you're talking about is Ron Johnson who came to Apple from Target and helped introduced Apple Retail stores and was a massive succes at Apple but not so good when he left to look after JC Penny.

The guy who replaced him was John Browett from a UK electrical chain called Currys and was a total flop and only lasted a few months. So far, Angela Ahrendts is doing a really good job and I think she could be the next Apple CEO after Tim.

Sad I knew that all without googling :D

Curious why you think Angela could be the next Apple CEO.
 
lol. That's what I was thinking. Oh that Apple hype just won't stop. I'm still not sold on watches as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone. Except the fitness aspect, but that can be done at a quarter of the price.

Apple hype? Last time I checked this isn't apple.com :confused:
 
lol. That's what I was thinking. Oh that Apple hype just won't stop. I'm still not sold on watches as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone. Except the fitness aspect, but that can be done at a quarter of the price.

I am not sold on the iPhone as it really can't do anything that I can't do on my laptop....

:cool:
 
Date for try-on appointments???

I am tempted to pre-order a watch without trying it on, but I think I really would like to try it on first.
I cannot find anywhere a starting date from when to book an appointment at the retail store... am I missing the information, or it just isn't available? I cannot even find a reference to it anywhere.
Any ideas???

Thanks! xxx
 
I am tempted to pre-order a watch without trying it on, but I think I really would like to try it on first.
I cannot find anywhere a starting date from when to book an appointment at the retail store... am I missing the information, or it just isn't available? I cannot even find a reference to it anywhere.
Any ideas???

Thanks! xxx

Pre-order on the 10th to guarantee your Watch, visit the retail location during the 2 week waiting period to try on, if you don't like it, just cancel the order.
 
Pre-order on the 10th to guarantee your Watch, visit the retail location during the 2 week waiting period to try on, if you don't like it, just cancel the order.

This is exactly what I'm doing. Without the benefit of trying it on before the online pre-orders will probably sell out this seems like the only way to do it.
 
Doesn't all of this seem a little douche-ish?

Try-on appointments? It's an f#$%ing watch! Its not a Brooks Brothers suit.

If everyone wants to try one on (and many, many people will), it's best to organize it. Is it not? Could you imagine everyone wanting to make a couple of phone calls with an iPhone before buying one? How would you like to wait in THAT line every year?
 
lol. That's what I was thinking. Oh that Apple hype just won't stop. I'm still not sold on watches as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone. Except the fitness aspect, but that can be done at a quarter of the price.

I'm with you. Apple shouldn't be using their retail stores to assit people in the buying process. They should be downplaying the device by not showing it or allowing people to try it on before they buy it.

Apple are just hyping by helping people make a purchasing decision.
 
Doesn't all of this seem a little douche-ish?

Try-on appointments? It's an f#$%ing watch! Its not a Brooks Brothers suit.


Yes, exactly my wording also.

douche-bagishness. They have lost their minds :D

I sure as **** hope the Apple Store drones got the memo to 'not BUG' people about this.

In&out.

But I guess if you imagine yourself in a Jewelry store it sorta makes sense. Problem is, something like body piercing is the only jewelry these Apple drones would know about .
 
" I'm still not sold on watches as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone."

I remember this quote about 5 years ago, except it was:

" I'm still not sold on iPad as they really do nothing that I can't do with my phone."

Let's face it the iPad's failure is beginning to show. After the luster has worn off we're seeing what the iPad really is: a big iPod touch. That's all. It isn't a revolutionary device. It has sold well for Apple for the last few years but it's just iPod technology repackaged at 9.7 inches with a ridiculous product name (maxiPad). Those of us who doubted this Cupertino creation are looking more validated quarter after quarter.

As for the the Apple Watch: it's just another Apple novelty. Apple has found a way to manufacture a product that's fully a status symbol whereas Mac and iPhone users can always fall back on claiming those things as tools.
 
You consider customer care "manipulation"? A new product category needs a little more nudging than just a commercial showing the watch spinning around. The fact that this device is a fashion accessory means people need to try them on. It's not manipulation, it's just organized.

The fact that you think it's pointless kind of reveals exactly why you're projecting that Apple thinks it doesn't have much to offer. And then you go on to say Apple doesn't appreciate how difficult it's going to be to get someone to put something on their wrist...yet they're offering services to make that easier...and have been quoted saying that young people do not wear watches anymore.

And yes, my one biggest gripe about this product is the negative connotation of wearing it in public. Among certain crowds, mainly those with your mindset, I will look like I'm either stupid for buying a pointless device or a complete fanboy for it being an Apple product. Meanwhile, my MS Band is bulky to wear and doesn't fit in most of my shirt sleeves...but nobody knows what it is. And so, quite the contrary to what most people think of Apple users, I hide my Apple stuff so as to not give off any preconceptions about who or what I am.

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Less than 9% of the internals of an iPhone are made in Korea. Most of it is, in fact, Japanese. And you're crazy about the tablets - they were just like smartphones, popular among a certain group of people but a total flop with the public.


Apple doesn't do this with any of its other products. So it's odd to me as to why they have decided this should be the first to have such "special" treatment. Couldn't they have just tethered the watches to a table like they do everything else? Seems to me that their employees will be doing a little bit more "selling," subtly of course, when it comes to helping customers pick out which watch is best.

To my second point, I just don't see how this thing is going to penetrate the mass market. Everyone who is buying this device already has an iPhone, because you need one for the device to work. So let's divide the potential customer base into different segments here and think it through. There are two groups that I think are most important, students and young professionals. Will students buy this device on a mass scale? I have my doubts. Perception matters here. I find it hard to believe that a 20 something year old is going to rush out and buy a watch the first week its released, since there now the "young adult" (aka kid), on campus who rushed out and bought an Apple Watch that really doesn't have a breakthrough feature the first week it was released. We haven't even considered the fact that so many in this age group do not currently wear a device on their wrist. So, Apple is going to have to sell a product to an individual who currently does not wear such a device and will probably subconsciously feel uncomfortable wearing it, at least initially. And it costs 350 dollars. A ton of hurdles here.

Second, young professionals. I think this age group will be even more difficult. Can you see young professionals who work in corporate environments rushing out to buy an Apple Watch and wear it in their workplace? I just don't see it. Maybe a few will, but very few. Again, societal perception matters. Most of these folks probably also don't wear watches. And if they do, it's probably understated and casual. Maybe the sport watch sells here, but again, I doubt it, since the band itself would stick out as perhaps unprofessional.

Third, older adults who currently wear watches. For older adults currently in the professional work force, no chance. They aren't buying this device. They have iPhones though, and they love them. But a "smart watch," no chance.

So, I'm finding it difficult to figure out who exactly is going to be buying this device. Young techies in Silicon Valley? Students who use it predominately to work out? Young professionals who use it predominately to work out? I really think the societal pressures make this so difficult to overcome, Apple would have been better off making the device look more like a classic looking watch. Maybe that would have had a chance. Otherwise, unless and until Apple can actually project an image out of the device, aka the future, I just don't see how this thing is successful.

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Curious why you think Angela could be the next Apple CEO.

Next CEO? Haha. She's from a fashion house. She's going to run a TECH company? I wouldn't be surprised if she was gone within the next 24 months at this point.
 
There are those who find Malls and retail stores unpleasant.

For instance, for myself, shopping for clothes I rank up there with dental visits.

Then again, knowing you don't have to linger makes the experience infinitely better.
 
Let's face it the iPad's failure is beginning to show. After the luster has worn off we're seeing what the iPad really is: a big iPod touch. That's all. It isn't a revolutionary device. It has sold well for Apple for the last few years but it's just iPod technology repackaged at 9.7 inches with a ridiculous product name (maxiPad). Those of us who doubted this Cupertino creation are looking more validated quarter after quarter.

As for the the Apple Watch: it's just another Apple novelty. Apple has found a way to manufacture a product that's fully a status symbol whereas Mac and iPhone users can always fall back on claiming those things as tools.

What exactly is a revolutionary device? If every device was a 'revolutionary' device wouldn't it just become a 'device'?

You appear hung up on terms rather than actualities.

If that is all you consider then you don't appear a very good judge or observer of such matters.
 
Since I am perhaps the only person on this planet who won't be buying an Apple Watch, or getting one from my wife as a birthday present (she said so) I thought I would offer my appointment, that I might have had, up to some other needy soul. This will of course go to the highest bidder. Bidding starts at $17,999. The watch is additional.
 
The hell it is. I LOVE the way these launches are handled and how I'm treated by Apple employees. I still remember my first experience high fiving them into buy the original iPhone. Awesome!

Go buy some Korean product you Debbie downer.

enjoy being a cheerleader at the launch !
 
Doesn't all of this seem a little douche-ish?

Try-on appointments? It's an f#$%ing watch! Its not a Brooks Brothers suit.

It's an expensive piece of wearable tech. Many will want to try it on before they buy it? Is that really douchy? It makes perfect sense to me and I'm sure the majority of the people wanting to buy. If not, don't worry about it. You don't have to try it on.
 
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