What to Expect From Apple in 2017: iPhone 8, 10-Inch iPad Pro, Refreshed iMacs, and More

[9081094]

In all of apple's modern history, PC's have always been faster. Nothing new here.

But the exceptional good experience you had with their computers has gone .

If Apple had COURAGE they would sell of the hardware to a company in willing to focus on making the best.

It also takes COURAGE to lower four year old hardware in price to compensate the ancient tech inside.

COURAGE is showing some focus and a decent futureproof roadmap to rebuild trust or giving your loyal customers a way out to release the pain they caused.

COURAGE is being honest in what you do and acting like that (environmental hardware hasn't all its components soldered or glued together)

COURAGE is ...

 

[justperry]

You are more than welcome:

• Apple Mail crashes
• PDF crashes
• Viewer not recommended to be used
• unreliable bluetooth connections
• WiFi dropouts
• iTunes error messages "disk full" (256GB left)
• 4k monitors not coming up during boot,
• graphic distortions.

Need more?
Snow Leopard was a blessing. Sierra is the worst macOS I've ever had (and I started with Snow Leopard).

• Apple Mail crashes
• No problem here.
• PDF crashes
• No problem here.
  
• Viewer not recommended to be used
• Which viewer?
• unreliable bluetooth connections
• No problem here.
  
• WiFi dropouts
• No problem here.
  
• iTunes error messages "disk full" (256GB left)
• No problem here.
  
• 4k monitors not coming up during boot,
• I don't have a 4k monitor so I can't comment on it.
• graphic distortions.
• No problem here.

Seems to me you might try to do some digging/problem solving because the above problems are not normal.
You could for instance start to reset PRAM and SMC, if that won't help make a new user account and try if
the above problems persist.

 

[Guy Clark]

• Apple Mail crashes
• No problem here.
• PDF crashes
• No problem here.
  
• Viewer not recommended to be used
• Which viewer?
• unreliable bluetooth connections
• No problem here.
  
• WiFi dropouts
• No problem here.
  
• iTunes error messages "disk full" (256GB left)
• No problem here.
  
• 4k monitors not coming up during boot,
• I don't have a 4k monitor so I can't comment on it.
• graphic distortions.
• No problem here.

Seems to me you might try to do some digging/problem solving because the above problems are not normal.
You could for instance start to reset PRAM and SMC, if that won't help make a new user account and try if
the above problems persist.

Although some of those issues were not in existence at the time many of the issues listed above did not occur with Snow Leopard. A great OS X release before all the iOS nonsense crept in.

 

[0958400]

Seems to me you might try to do some digging/problem solving because the above problems are not normal.
You could for instance start to reset PRAM and SMC, if that won't help make a new user account and try if
the above problems persist.

Oh darling, I knew you would say that. You're an applegist.
"You're holding it wrong" and all. Just because you work for Apple doesn't make this OS right.
I am telling what other people also experience. If your computer works: fine, good for you. Mine doesn't. That's it.
Apple's computers used to work. And they didn't need applegists like you to do their programming job. This is about groundwork not about euphemistic descriptions as you issue it, just trying to put other opinions down.
Maybe it isn't your experience: fine. It didn't used to be mine. But now it is. And I've paid enough to complain about an OS that doesn't work for me or my Apple product that it is supposed to be designed for.

 

[justperry]

Although some of those issues were not in existence at the time many of the issues listed above did not occur with Snow Leopard. A great OS X release before all the iOS nonsense crept in.

Snow Leopard wasn't stable when released, but it seems to me people forgot.

Oh darling, I knew you would say that. You're an applegist.
"You're holding it wrong" and all. Just because you work for Apple doesn't make this OS right.
I am telling what other people also experience. If your computer works: fine, good for you. Mine doesn't. That's it.
Apple's computers used to work. And they didn't need applegists like you to do their programming job. This is about groundwork not about propaganda as you issue it.

I am definitely not a so called Applegist as you like to call me.
Yes, I do realise some people might have problems with their OS, I am not one of them amongst many others.
You didn't tell me if you even tried to solve the problems, you should, even if this involves reinstalling MacOS.

 

[pmau]

I highly doubt that Apple currently has the mindset to surprise us on the hardware side.
They will renew the product lineup, limiting its versatile use even more.
Power saving and - for that reason alone - limited connectivity is their current mantra.
This includes components that require more power.

 

[0958400]

But the exceptional good experience you had with their computers has gone .

If Apple had COURAGE they would sell of the hardware to a company in willing to focus on making the best.

It also takes COURAGE to lower four year old hardware in price to compensate the ancient tech inside.

COURAGE is showing some focus and a decent futureproof roadmap to rebuild trust or giving your loyal customers a way out to release the pain they caused.

COURAGE is being honest in what you do and acting like that (environmental hardware hasn't all its components soldered or glued together)

COURAGE is ...

Yes, yes, and thank you!

 

[navaira]

You didn't tell me if you even tried to solve the problems

Duh, of course @pentidoes didn't try anything. I bet they didn't even reboot the computer! Just whining, whining, whining about problems you don't have (which means nobody else does either). Next they'll tell us that their Macbook Pro doesn't reach the 10 hours of battery life when the simplest way to achieve smooth operation for 24 hours and more is to just keep it plugged all the time! /s

 

[0958400]

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[justperry]

Duh, of course @pentidoes didn't try anything. I bet they didn't even reboot the computer! Just whining, whining, whining about problems you don't have (which means nobody else does either). Next they'll tell us that their Macbook Pro doesn't reach the 10 hours of battery life when the simplest way to achieve smooth operation for 24 hours and more is to just keep it plugged all the time! /s

And your point is actually?

 

[cwt2nospam]

"You're holding it wrong" and all.

What do you think that statement makes you? It's possible to hold all phones wrong. At the time of that so-called problem, most other phones could easily be held wrong too. Newer designs have made it less of an issue, but it's still there. Unless you're willing to have a separate antenna hanging off your phone, it always will be. This is the kind of thing that makes people stop paying attention to you, because you sound like you're desperate to prove a point.

We'd all like Macs to start improving at the rate they were fifteen years ago, but that's not likely to happen no matter what Apple does. The simple fact is that today's computers (Macs AND PCs) are only marginally faster than computers from four years ago, and that's likely going to continue for some time. All those people who used to complain about their computers becoming obsolete by the time they got them home are now happy! The rest of us need to accept the fact that the big technology changes are happening elsewhere, like in phones, tablets, and even cars! If it really bothers you, try to remember that a 5-10% increase in speed may seem like much, but 5% of something already fast is significant.

 

[gctwnl]

[...]
We use iPhones and iPads to automatically sync notes and photos to our pro machines. If we have to switch our Mac Pro's to Dell or HP workstations, we have no reason to buy Macbook Pros, iMacs, iPads or iPhones. We will be switching those to surface's and window phones for easier integration and lower cost. I know, windows sucks and we don't want to leave, but as other pointed out, Apple is pushing us out the door by neglecting us.
[...]

There is something ugly in Apple's culture. Apple (and NeXT too before it) has always had 'insane levels of attention to details' next to 'insane levels of neglect'. The big problem with that is it makes Apple a very untrustworthy company to buy from for any long-term commitment, because you never know when that one thing you need ends up in the 'neglect' corner. And sometimes even fundamental building blocks end up in the neglect corner.

This has always been the case with Apple. More recent is that Apple more often releases half-finished ideas. Things that haven't been thought through, have a half-implementation and of course then have a big chance to end up on the 'neglect' pile.

Apple's complete lack of an update to Mac Pro, Mac mini and so forth is ridiculous. The only thing that keeps me hoping still that I don't have to change ecosystem is that Tim c.s. have publicly voiced support for the Mac. But there are no deeds that come with the words.

Here is a quote from MacRumors prediction for 2015, two years ago (striking is the same phrase 'there have been no rumours' as this years expectations). If that is any sign it is bad:

Mac Pro (Early to Late 2015)

Apple's Mac Pro was launched in late 2013, and because it saw no updates in 2014, it's ripe for a refresh in 2015. There have been no rumors hinting at a Mac Pro upgrade, but in the past, Apple upgraded the professional-oriented desktop in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2012, sticking to an every-other-year upgrade pattern at times.

An upgraded Mac Pro will likely continue to use the same general design with improved internals, possibly utilizing Intel's next-generation "Grantley" Xeon E5 v3 processors and new AMD FirePro graphics cards. Both the new Xeon chips and the upgraded FirePro cards are already shipping to manufacturers, suggesting that an upgrade could come at any point in 2015.

 

[cwt2nospam]

There is something ugly in Apple's culture. Apple (and NeXT too before it) has always had 'insane levels of attention to details' next to 'insane levels of neglect'. The big problem with that is it makes Apple a very untrustworthy company to buy from for any long-term commitment, because you never know when that one thing you need ends up in the 'neglect' corner.

<sarcasm>Yes, it's much better to buy from PC makers because their level of attention to details is consistent.</scarcasm> Consistently poor.

You need to accept that when you buy a Mac you're paying for better quality hardware/software integration. Sometimes that makes for better speed, but mostly it means less hassle and better productivity, both of which affect your bottom line much more than the price of the box. PCs have aways cost less to buy with roughly the same specs, but cost much more to own. That hasn't changed. In that light, today's Mac Pro looks pretty good.

Remember too that longer periods between hardware updates mean that your investment doesn't become obsolete nearly as fast as it used to. Or you could get on the PC treadmill and have fun dealing with that instead of doing your job.

 

[nakedtosh]

Since three years this site is my MOST VISITED WEBSITE! AND I AM ALWAYS ONLY LOOKING FOR GOOD NEWS FOR A MAC PRO, WHICH IS A REAL COMPUTER AND NOT A DESIGN MILSTONE.
I want a f.....g desktop Mac. A Mac which is at least on the same level like a HP840, with GPU options, CPU options, Ram options, internal storage options.
And, of course: I DON`T MIND IF IT WILL BE BIG AND HEAVY. I LOVE BIG AND HEAVY COMPUTER WITH PERFORMANCE. I WANT NVIDIA CARDS.
I am going crazy..... pimped my old Mac with everything... it is just getting older... where is the good new Mac, where? I mean, it can't be so difficult for Apple to build a big computer out of existing components an d mak a little money with it to take care of the community, which made them so big.

 

[nakedtosh]

don't buy updates soon - I guess these days are all over now for the Mac Pro

 

[Martyimac]

For the folks in this forum, including myself, that wanted a new MacPro, our wishes have been granted. But 2 years to put it together? That's way to long to wait especially if Apple "painted itself into a corner" (probably a paraphrased quote)

And then there will be those posters who will defend Apple no matter how ludicrous they, or Apple sounds. What say you now?

 

[wjw0111]

For the folks in this forum, including myself, that wanted a new MacPro, our wishes have been granted. But 2 years to put it together? That's way to long to wait especially if Apple "painted itself into a corner" (probably a paraphrased quote)

And then there will be those posters who will defend Apple no matter how ludicrous they, or Apple sounds. What say you now?

Say about what? The lengthy development time for the new Mac Pro? I don't know if it sounds all that absurdly long since it sounds like they're starting with a blank piece of paper and they only got started a couple of weeks ago.

Or is your beef more that it took this long for them to decide to get started on a new machine? I assume the decision wasn't easy. I would have trashed the whole line personally.