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any chance that the new imac is delayed because they're waiting to release it with a new redesigned keyboard and/or mouse?

I think Ivy + USB3 could happen any day, even this week. A redesigned Retina might be in November/December- in time for Hajj or whatever folks celebrate.

Sheering guessing, of course.
 
@Danza I know very well t
the difference between ssds and hdds but you are completely missing my point. If right now the number of gb a ssd can provide is only sufficient for the os and programs and a small amount of data. what is the real benefit we are getting right now besides opening and closing turning on and off stuff if in the end data writing speeds will be tied to those of the hdds where data is stored
 
@Danza I know very well t
the difference between ssds and hdds but you are completely missing my point. If right now the number of gb a ssd can provide is only sufficient for the os and programs and a small amount of data. what is the real benefit we are getting right now besides opening and closing turning on and off stuff if in the end data writing speeds will be tied to those of the hdds where data is stored

did you read my post? if you did, and you do actually know the difference between the 2 drives, you'd know why ssd is a better drive. i originally posted my views on ssd's because someone asked why so many people wanted those drives in the next iMac, and i was explaining my reasoning behind wanting one. in my last post to you i explained i wanted my next mac to have even better longevity than i've experienced with them using hdd in the past. is that really so hard to understand? is it wrong to want a better technology in my computer? i've already stated that i keep large media files on hdd because of the economics of it. i don't care that much about the difference of r/w capability when i just want to store large files for use on projects or for backups, but i do care about the stability of my core drive in my computer which means i prefer ssd. an ssd of 150 gb would be sufficient for all the apps i use. i don't think you are correct in saying "most people" need storage between 200 - 600 gb. first of all, that's quite a range you're covering there. secondly, most users definitely don't need that much space so i'm not really sure who you're referring to. maybe most members of this forum use close to that or more than that, but the average computer-user across the globe does not have that much to store.
 
really I don't give a damn what I get at this point just give me something new, the big screen, desktop at a reasonable price, and you got my money
 
It seems that you dont understand the question. No one is debating whether ssd is better than hdd. You are completely missing the point Daza.
 
posting interesting pattern that someone

in apple insider noticed:

Here is an interesting pattern some might want to note.

Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.

Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.

Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)

All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.
 
in apple insider noticed:

Here is an interesting pattern some might want to note.

Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.

Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.

Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)

All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.

Quarterly meeting :cool:

Still, bring on the new iMac!
 
It seems that you dont understand the question. No one is debating whether ssd is better than hdd. You are completely missing the point Daza.

Or perhaps you don't realize that everyone's need are different. As a data point, I'm not even using half of my 330GB HDD. Why on earth would I want a terabyte drive? OTOH, faster-launching apps sound really good, and improved reliability is a nice bonus.
 
Or perhaps you don't realize that everyone's need are different. As a data point, I'm not even using half of my 330GB HDD. Why on earth would I want a terabyte drive? OTOH, faster-launching apps sound really good, and improved reliability is a nice bonus.

Speak for yourself, my G5PM has 1.5Tb on 2 internal HDDs, plus 2x 2Tb USBs sitting on top, not to mention 5Tb shared off a PC and NAS in another room and I need MORE!

I'd love a multi HDD Thunder Bolt RAID but can't afford it at this time.
 
For me the removal of the DVD drive on the iMac is the biggest hurt i can live without a odd on my MacBook retina but on my desktop at home I like to watch my tv shows on DVDs, as you cannot get everything on iTunes and to add a external odd would disminish the all in one pc concept the Mac has proudely lived by.
 
in apple insider noticed:

Here is an interesting pattern some might want to note.

Apple "all hands meeting" sometime between Feb22-Feb25
Ipad 3 launch date March 7th.

Apple "all hands meeting" May 22nd.
rMBP launch date June 11th.

Apple "all hands meeting" June 24th
iMac launch date ??July??(with or prior to an already announced OS update)

All this talk of "apple doesn't hold all hands meeting prior to product launch" is complete bologna.


well to call that a pattern would be a bit far fetched imo.
They release products on a regular basis of 2-3 months, because they have a lot of products to release and wants to even it out through a year. So a month or two after a quarterly meeting its probably something new to be released...or the month before - just how you like to see it. :cool:
 
It seems that you dont understand the question. No one is debating whether ssd is better than hdd. You are completely missing the point Daza.

what point am i missing here? i've addressed whatever concerns you have, from "my" perspective. i've said multiple times that everyone's needs are different. i couldn't care less whether or not you want to put money down on an ssd. this thread is to discuss what'd we'd like to see in the next iMac model and, according to the poll, many hope for better ssd options and that's when this conversation started. if i really haven't addressed your issues then please let me know, but make sure you can back up your argument with facts and not just accusations that i'm "missing the point".
 
For me the removal of the DVD drive on the iMac is the biggest hurt i can live without a odd on my MacBook retina but on my desktop at home I like to watch my tv shows on DVDs, as you cannot get everything on iTunes and to add a external odd would disminish the all in one pc concept the Mac has proudely lived by.

They are already compromising by not having Bluray. I don't think iMacs will lose DVDs just yet.
 
They are already compromising by not having Bluray. I don't think iMacs will lose DVDs just yet.

For video editing purposes, I would love for apple to include bluray but I think it won't happen given how much of a push they are makin for everything to go digital and live in the cloud. But I do agree that the next iMac will retain DVD.
 
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They are already compromising by not having Bluray. I don't think iMacs will lose DVDs just yet.

I for one, hope they do. Sluggish out of date technology that needs to go sooner than later. The days are numbered. Just ask Blockbuster.
 
iMac or Mac Pro???

I am getting so itchy waiting to buy the new iMac or the Mac Pro. I think I will go with whichever one has the best refresh. I have like the iMac for its compact qualities without being a portable. (can't stand laptops). Thought about getting the Pro, but was turned away by its lack of some features like USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt, although Thunderbolt isn't necessary with a tower.....i'm really torn on which way to go. Of course cost is an issue with the Pro. Would really like to see a retina display, but I guess I could do without. SMH.....nothing wrong with my first gen intel imac, just want to upgrade =^)
 
Wirelessly posted

Just noticed something in the iCloud ad. The iMac is no longer in it. The ad showed the iCloud over everything but now it's MBP iPad and iPhone. Very weird to take out the iMac isn't it?
 
Wirelessly posted

Just noticed something in the iCloud ad. The iMac is no longer in it. The ad showed the iCloud over everything but now it's MBP iPad and iPhone. Very weird to take out the iMac isn't it?
Apple sees the money in ios and MacBook devices.
 
Possible Specs?

Now that we have seen the updates to the MBA and MBP (non retina) and assuming there isn't a next-gen iMac with retina yet, what are the possible specs across the board?

(sorry if this has been asked before but couldn't find detailed answers since after WWDC, you're welcome to link me recent posts regarding this subject)
 
  • Ivy Bridge desktop chips (i5 as standard and i7 for high end BTO)
  • Most likely will use nVidia GTX 6 GPUs, as MBP does, so it would make it to iMac too.
  • USB 3.0 support (yeah obviously)
  • 1600MHz DDR3 RAM, probably 2x4GB as standard in high end 21.5" and 27"
  • Could be released together with ML (they did with MBA and MacMini last year)

Basically, it's a normal spec bump, nothing will be too special really, not as alluring as rMBP for sure. Or you can read and discuss much further here.
 
.. This was rather my point. Everyone has different needs. For many people, a 256GB SSD and no other drive makes a lot sense. For many others, it doesn't.

I would like an iMac with just the 256GB SSD. That's easily enough to handle the OSX system and all applications, as well as some bootcamp space. I plan to then hook up the 12TB Promise Pegasus Thunderbolt to it, and everything else would go there. In RAID 5, that puppy is faster than two striped SSDs. Way... waaaayyyy faster than the internal 1TB or 2TB drives, so no real need for another internal drive. ... and no, 12TB (10TB in RAID) is not too much space. I can easily use it up.
 
I would like an iMac with just the 256GB SSD. That's easily enough to handle the OSX system and all applications, as well as some bootcamp space. I plan to then hook up the 12TB Promise Pegasus Thunderbolt to it, and everything else would go there. In RAID 5, that puppy is faster than two striped SSDs. Way... waaaayyyy faster than the internal 1TB or 2TB drives, so no real need for another internal drive. ... and no, 12TB (10TB in RAID) is not too much space. I can easily use it up.

While I don't quite need that much space, this is basically similar to my ideal set-up. Given my Apple's HDD track record in my experience, I'd rather pay more for a leaner, more stable machine using SSD. 256gb would indeed be perfect for my needs to run the os and apps. Lastmboy, do you currently use the Pegasus? If so, what're your thoughts because I've heard conflicting reviews about it...
 
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