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The idea that Core M can be fanless turned out to be some over-eagerness in Intel's marketing department. Not only does the Yoga 3 have a fan, it gets loud, and performance still sucks:

http://ultrabooknews.com/2014/10/16...erformance-tests-reveal-throttling-fan-noise/

Wouldn't bet on a fanless MacBook for another few years still. Not even really sure why this would be attractive either.

If you're annoyed by fan noise from the current MacBook, it means you are stressing out the processor. Would you rather it be quiet but much slower?

This is quite a fair point actually. The 12 inch size would be awesome but the core M and fanless design tbh is a step back in performance. Look at HP's new core M laptop supposed to be thinner then the air. I mean at what point does the thinness battle end. I would rather have the air the same thinness with more power efficient processors not slower.
 
Apple is ditching the 13" MBA footprint, and rightly so. There's too much overlap between the two 13" portable offerings. This new 12" MBA will have a similar footprint as the current 11", then all will be right in the Apple laptop world.

Get the 11" or get the 13" MBP or wait.
 
So I have decided to purchase a MacBook air basically as a secondary coomputer to my rMPR 15. It will accompany me to uni everyday. Now I am leaning towards the 11 for portability reasons but the 13 which is still very portable has that 12 hour battery life as opposed to 9 hrs on the 11.
So if you guys had a choice what size and configuration would you choose?

If you are going to carry it to and from the uni on a daily basis, along with other stuff and there is a chance that the laptop will be pressed between books or any other kind of pressure on it in your backpack is expected, then buy the 11-structurally more rigid than the 13.

I am speaking from experience here- I have a 13 and it already has those lines on the screen from pressing the display against the keyboard. My GF has 11 and hers is spotless, although being subjected to the same treatment.
 
Apple is ditching the 13" MBA footprint, and rightly so. There's too much overlap between the two 13" portable offerings. This new 12" MBA will have a similar footprint as the current 11", then all will be right in the Apple laptop world.

Get the 11" or get the 13" MBP or wait.

The MacBook Pro costs significantly more money while not being necessary for many people. There's absolutely no feature or benefit to the MacBook Pro that I would need. The MacBook air is smaller, lighter, and does everything that I need. Getting rid of it would be silly. Why would you want consumers to spend extra money if they don't need it?
 
If you are going to carry it to and from the uni on a daily basis, along with other stuff and there is a chance that the laptop will be pressed between books or any other kind of pressure on it in your backpack is expected, then buy the 11-structurally more rigid than the 13.

I am speaking from experience here- I have a 13 and it already has those lines on the screen from pressing the display against the keyboard. My GF has 11 and hers is spotless, although being subjected to the same treatment.

A test of one of each unit tells us absolutely nothing. Furthermore, you haven't justify your method of ensuring the pressure on your girlfriends MacBook air has been the same as the pressure on yours.

Instead of putting all this pressure on your expensive computer, you'd be wiser to use a solid case that would absorb the pressure without putting it on the computer.
 
A test of one of each unit tells us absolutely nothing. Furthermore, you haven't justify your method of ensuring the pressure on your girlfriends MacBook air has been the same as the pressure on yours.

Instead of putting all this pressure on your expensive computer, you'd be wiser to use a solid case that would absorb the pressure without putting it on the computer.

I wouldn't give the guy a hard time. It's common sense that the 11" would have more structural rigidity.
 
Of course, sunlight will end up discoloring it.
It absolutely will. So you better stick it in there deep.
Good to know that you have no problem with taking those whole 13 inches like a real man ;)
 
Ok, Mary.

Can you please stop with "girl" insults of those who prefer 11" to 13" form factor? This is both sexist and childish.

One may have plenty of reasons to prefer 13" to 11" MBA or visa versa - being "manly" has the least to do with any of it.
 
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It's only common sense if you will make a large series of assumptions.

Well, we know the laptops have the same thickness and are made of essentially the same stuff. And according to their weights, they have the same density.

So this seems like a simple physics question. If you have a sheet of wood and cut it into a big square and a little square, which square is easier to deform? Obviously the big one.
 
Can you please stop with "girl" insults of those who prefer 11" to 13" form factor?
I haven't insulted anyone over a preference.

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Well, we know the laptops have the same thickness and are made of essentially the same stuff. And according to their weights, they have the same density.

So this seems like a simple physics question. If you have a sheet of wood and cut it into a big square and a little square, which square is easier to deform? Obviously the big one.

Are they made of the same thickness material? Or since, as you mentioned, a smaller size might have inherently more strength, did Apple use less aluminum, therefore canceling out the extra strength?

We can assume all day long and use anecdotal evidence about some guy and his girlfriends laptops, if you like...
 
Both models have their perks, but the 13-inch is the one I would go with. The battery life is great!
 
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Are they made of the same thickness material? Or since, as you mentioned, a smaller size might have inherently more strength, did Apple use less aluminum, therefore canceling out the extra strength?
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Well, the laptops have the same thickness and they have the same stuff in the middle. So I'm not sure how you think Apple might have made the case material thicker for the 13" model.
 
A test of one of each unit tells us absolutely nothing. Furthermore, you haven't justify your method of ensuring the pressure on your girlfriends MacBook air has been the same as the pressure on yours.

Instead of putting all this pressure on your expensive computer, you'd be wiser to use a solid case that would absorb the pressure without putting it on the computer.

Fair enough mate.
But let me explain: both of them are in BookBook cases, both being carried around in a backpack among other stuff: books, notepads, clothing etc and mine has developed these lines on the screen while hers hasn't.
These are the facts. It has never been my goal to prove scientifically anything-it is just as it is. Not saying there is something wrong with 13, just more fragile and needs more care.

By the way, that was the reason I moved to MBPr 13-quality of the display, battery life and power of this thing more than pays off for slightly bigger weight- I couldn't care less about a pound or two more-both are equally portable to me.
 
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Well that escalated quickly! haha
But seriously being smaller and having the build its only common sense that the 11 would be more rigid. Come on this is year 10 physics
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Well that escalated quickly! haha
But seriously being smaller and having the build its only common sense that the 11 would be more rigid. Come on this is year 10 physics
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Don't you argue physics! Its all a matter of opinion. ;)
 
Initially upon their introduction I bought both. My preference is to make my decision from personal first hand experience.

After using them in my environment for my work flow, the 11" simply required too much scrolling. In fact overall work area of the 11" display was simply too limiting.

In the years to follow I've owned one 13" of each generation. Other than their marginal display quality they're very handy lightweight machines.
 
Initially upon their introduction I bought both. My preference is to make my decision from personal first hand experience.

After using them in my environment for my work flow, the 11" simply required too much scrolling. In fact overall work area of the 11" display was simply too limiting.

In the years to follow I've owned one 13" of each generation. Other than their marginal display quality they're very handy lightweight machines.

Initially this was something I wa scared about dealing with as I never had much hands on experience with the 11" but after a few days of adjusting I'm used to it now. I have my dock on the left side of the screen and I have my windows stretched out and it's decent. Truth be told I bought the 11" because it was only $600 refurbished from Apple but I really do enjoy it.
 
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