What's Coming in iOS 8.1: Apple Pay, SMS Relay, Instant Hotspot, Camera Roll, and More

[sgginc]

I can't get this handoff/continuity thing working and it is driving me mad !

I followed this after 2hrs of frustration and it worked:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5458

Logging out of iCloud Drive created what I feared
was the loss of some Numbers spreadsheets (my stomach sank).
But they where still there.

I recommend saving all your iCloud documents locally
before logging out of iCloud Drive.

Thanks ... Ken

 

[username:]

It was really annoying upgrading to Yosemite and realizing all the new features are contingent on 8.1.

"all" meaning two?

 

[tooloud10]

Am I the only guy that's successfully been using the Instant Hotspot feature to connect a wifi only iPad Air to my iPhone 5 since the day iOS8 was released? It's been working great, except I can't figure out if there's a way to turn it off or if I'm just supposed to turn the iPad screen off when I'm done.

Also, iOS8 and Yosemite are full of great examples for those Android geeks that keep claiming that they've had all these features "for years".

 

[tansy]

So there isn't a setting that needs to be enabled on either my MacBook or iPhone, it's already set since I've installed Yosemite and iOS 8.0.2?

Please excuse my ignorance in this; I've done a bit of preliminary searching but haven't found anything in System Preferences and was curious as well. Thanks.

It's enabled by default it seems.

The option to turn it off is under General in System Preferences. "Allow Handoff between this Mac and your iCloud devices."

 

[iPhilPHX]

It's enabled by default it seems.

The option to turn it off is under General in System Preferences. "Allow Handoff between this Mac and your iCloud devices."

Thanks. I just found that it IS already enabled when a call came in on my phone and the MacBook started chirping at the same time. I picked up the phone first as it was next to me but saw the notification on the screen at the same time. Didn't have the presence of mind to go to the notebook to take the call.

 

[Gameboy70]

Why they thought removing it was a good idea I'll never know...

I think a lot of novice users failed to understand the difference between Camera Roll and Photostream. Even as late as this June, Mashable published an explainer on the difference.

If Apple wanted to simplify things for new adopters, they should have nixed the more abstract sounding Photostream.

 

[sbailey4]

I wish they would have added the instant hotspot for the iPad too. I didn't get an LTE iPad because I always have my phone anyways, it would have been nice to simplify the process (but then the sales of LTE models would go down)

Yeah that makes WAY more since. I mean how many times is a typical mac computer without a connection (wifi or wired)? Not counting notebooks. I could see way more times folks with iPad needing this feature instead of mac users. Certainly there are times the notebooks would use it, not disputing that but put the feature on both!

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I'm about ready for a new ipad. It would be nice to save some cash and get the wifi version.

Has anyone head if an iPad would use instant hotspot with your phone, or just Macs?

The instant probably won't work (for now) but you can always simply turn on hotspot manually on the phone and BAM done. Its not that hard to do and save on the extra data device surcharge with carrier and extra $$ on the device purchase. The only real benefit of the instant hotspot is you can remotely enable the phone from the other device. Just keep your phone close by and flip the switch manually and save some cash.

 

[MacBH928]

i wish apple would just SLOW DOWN.
releasing features that arnt ready for primetime yet.
broken health app.
OS updates that disable features.
bugs galore.
TOO many hands in too many different areas.

wish it was they focused on making their devices perfect than every year overhaul.
god forbid we go ONE year without anything new. would rather have a stable phone for an extra year than a 700$ device that only does 3/4 of what was promised.

iCloud drive??? yeah.

I agree, Apple should take 2 years to relax and just continue to fix problems and make their products more reliable. You can't mind-blow people each year. Apple products are already as thin, light, fast, and fantastic looking as possible.

The problem is that Jobs has set a standard where you have to build amazing products each year, but he did it when the industry had a lot of areas where it could improve on.

Then again, there are other areas where they could easily improve but they don't, like adding an extra 1GB RAM to iphone and release a new Apple TV

 

[sundog925]

What are you on? Those were initial issues, they have been sorted out.

WHAT ARE U ON??
THEY NEVER SHOULD OF BEEN ISSUES IN THE FIRST PLACE. thats my point. i mean for gods sake, 8.0.2 BREAKING WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY???? embarrassing. straight up shame on them. I was embarrassed to be an iPhone owner during that. i can't keep defending a company who' treats MAJOR OS releases like betas. I'm slowly loosing respect for them.

 

[Keirasplace]

WHAT ARE U ON??
THEY SHOULD OF BEEN ISSUES IN THE FIRST PLACE. thats my point. i mean for gods sake, 8.0.2 BREAKING WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY???? embarrassing. straight up shame on them. I was embarrassed to be an iPhone owner during that. i can't keep defending a company who' treats MAJOR OS releases like betas. I'm slowly loosing respect for them.

I know 30 people that had no issue at all. So.. Hey!! There are thousands of devices at there with tons of different specs, some are even out of spec (defective or old). Should Apple test against all those configurations, even those they don't even know exist, prior to official release?

 

[iPadCary]

Definately agree with most voices here.
iOS 8 needs to be Snow Leoparded.
Would it kill Apple not to release a new iOS every year?!?
And drop Jony as iOS overseer while they're at it, too.

 

[postpc]

IOS needs a service release badly, no features just bug fixes and stability improvements. I mean some of the most basic stuff doesn't work, like when doing a search on Google none of the links work unless you scroll the screen, Wifi being dropped for no apparent reasons etc. Have to agree with the poster above we need IOS Snow Leopard release.

 

[Dopestar]

I'm about ready for a new ipad. It would be nice to save some cash and get the wifi version.

Has anyone head if an iPad would use instant hotspot with your phone, or just Macs?

yes this was addressed I personally am able to use it with my 6+. I noticed though it now connects via bluetooth as a hotspot.. hopefully with 8.1 the bug will be fixed. Always go for the wifi version since your phone has the hotspot feature.

 

[BoneHead001]

My 6+ will not sync correctly with iTunes (v. 12). I hope 8.1 fixes it.

 

[numlock]

I know 30 people that had no issue at all. So.. Hey!! There are thousands of devices at there with tons of different specs, some are even out of spec (defective or old). Should Apple test against all those configurations, even those they don't even know exist, prior to official release?

sorry can you expand?

 

[diegogaja]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it works like this:

I take a pic with my iPhone. It's stored in full res in my iPhone and uploaded to photos treat in full res. if I go into my iPad to edit or view, only the thumbnail size is stored on my iPad (or computer) until I select it to edit, then the full size version is downloaded from camera roll.

Wait so we're forced to have our HD images in Cloud?

that sounds pretty ridiculous and a lowball move to me.

Is apple that greedy?

 

[diegogaja]

Ok. Based on my experience, none of that happens.

Anyway, I don't think the poster was trying to blame you, just trying to maybe help out and find options that may solve your issues.

But it's ok. Just ignore all attempts/suggestions so you are sure to have something to complain about...

no. That is what a iCloud backup is for and the reason apple says to back up your phone to the cloud. They even charge me for 200gb of data so I can actually back up my devices. This start fresh theory is just that, an easy way to point out user error. My iPad had same issues. Set that up as new though.

And your speaking on behalf of your dad's iPhone 6? Not really speaking on your own daily experience.

 

[Keirasplace]

sorry can you expand?

Don't need to expand anything that's how it is when testing against thousands of platforms IOS and its underlying hardware (many different types, many of them old) and environments. Beta testing won't test all these because Beta is not fully representative of all the variants of hardware / software combination and the environments in which they'll be.

Remember use to issue Windows X compatible stickers..., for the hardware they had actually tested against. Well, Apple could also do that I guess, but it won't, it will try instead to adjust to what it discovers in the field through a software update.

 

[Mashurrab]

Brand new phone, and is from my personal computer.
I did a backup of my iPhone 5 (transferred purchases and apps) and then restored it to my new 6+. I've never had her account logged in to anything of mine before

Do you recognise the other account.

In all cases you have to delete all these applications and purchase them with you Apple ID.

 

[loon3y]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it works like this:

I take a pic with my iPhone. It's stored in full res in my iPhone and uploaded to photos treat in full res. if I go into my iPad to edit or view, only the thumbnail size is stored on my iPad (or computer) until I select it to edit, then the full size version is downloaded from camera roll.

i think it said in 8.1?


i just got worried because others have said it. I'm Trying to figure out too

 

[twoodcc]

really looking forward to this update

 

[numlock]

Don't need to expand anything that's how it is when testing against thousands of platforms IOS and its underlying hardware (many different types, many of them old) and environments. Beta testing won't test all these because Beta is not fully representative of all the variants of hardware / software combination and the environments in which they'll be.

Remember use to issue Windows X compatible stickers..., for the hardware they had actually tested against. Well, Apple could also do that I guess, but it won't, it will try instead to adjust to what it discovers in the field through a software update.

but what do you mean by the sentences i bolded?

some are even out of spec (defective or old)

and

Should Apple test against all those configurations, even those they don't even know exist, prior to official release?

are you saying apple is not up to the challenge of supporting their releases?

 

[Keirasplace]

but what do you mean by the sentences i bolded?

some are even out of spec (defective or old)

and

Should Apple test against all those configurations, even those they don't even know exist, prior to official release?

are you saying apple is not up to the challenge of supporting their releases?

It has nothing to do with not up to the challenge. How many people do you think have these issue. You act like everyone has this. IT IS NOT THE CASE. Maybe, 3-4% of people have this issue because their phone is dealing with situation that were not tested against because they couldn't test them all in Beta.

Apple release tens of millions of phones that deal with millions of variants in third party hardware, software, configurations and environment. There is no way to figure out which one of these combinations will fail. They've tested the most common ones undoubtedly, if only because those would show up in Beta, but not all of them.

When you buy equipment third party equipment, it is supposed to follow specifications but many don't because the third party software or hardware is buggy or defective (defective doesn't mean the hardware doesn't work, just that it doesn't work exactly as designed). It is not just Apple that can have bugs.

I've had routers that disconnected randomly with some 5s phones (but not all); were the 5s phone to blame or the router? Somehow this got fixed in later 7 releases. Were they going around a router bug or a real issue in the 5s driver? Who knows, the impact in the end is the same.

Bizarrely, often when a company makes their software or hardware more strict in following specifications (often when creating a new driver for a new hardware), marginal equipment fails to connect to these new equipment. I've dealt with systems integration for decades and that is the case.

The solution for this is to Apple loosen up their protocols and handshaking when it comes to these specific hardware/software/configurations if it makes sense. This is what would come in 8.1 Monday. If the third party device is totally out of whack and Apple'S modifications would be detrimental to others connecting to their device, they would not do it.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

And my Dad's iPhone 6 says otherwise Have you attempted to clean install?

I guess because your Dad's phone works, that invalidates anyone else's issues? What drove you to even post this?

I must be dreaming every time I rotate my 6 to landscape in Messages and the keyboard is unresponsive, but works fine in portrait? Or when on the lock screen the camera icon won't slide up and start the camera, requiring me to unlock the phone and start the camera app (and missing the shot)?

 

[jermwhl]

Will Apple Pay function outside the US???

I'm hopeful it will. I live in Switzerland but all my credit cards are from the U.S. There are tons of NFC terminals here. We'll see on Monday!