I'm really hoping for a 30+ inch display. If it's still 27", I doubt I'd upgrade from my i9 27"
Mac Mini
I strongly disagree. Maybe if the Studio display was less as once you have a 5K 27" display you don't want to go back to anything less (smaller or less resolution). So you are looking at $1599 for the Studio Display plus $699 for the base Mac mini so $2298 to start. That is $999 more than the base 24" iMac. Again the 27" iMac base used to start at $1799.
As a 2015 iMac 27" 5K owner, I am not satisfied with the Apple Studio as a potential replacement. However, my iMac has began having hard drive issues. Interesting timing on this article. Tracking shows that the drive replacement kit should arrive today, so hopefully I can keep the 2015 model running for awhile longer in hopes that Apple will introduce a larger screen Apple silicon AIO model. Currently undecided on Plan B.
What galls me about is that despite all the greenwashing from Apple, they haven't provided a way to use iMacs as external monitors. Can you imagine how many machines it would save from recycling if you could (say) plug a MacBook or a Mac Mini into one of those USB-C ports on the iMac and use it as a display?However, it's "throw baby out with the bathwater" should anything go wrong with any part of an all-in-one Mac. iMac has been a relatively great value (from Apple anyway) when buying it. It's at the end when it bites you. I've got that terrific, high res 27" screen that can't be used anymore because the computing guts of the old iMac conked.
I opened up my 2014 iMac 5K a couple years ago. Take your time with those glue stripsAs a 2015 iMac 27" 5K owner, I am not satisfied with the Apple Studio as a potential replacement. However, my iMac has began having hard drive issues. Interesting timing on this article. Tracking shows that the drive replacement kit should arrive today, so hopefully I can keep the 2015 model running for awhile longer in hopes that Apple will introduce a larger screen Apple silicon AIO model. Currently undecided on Plan B.
At the Mac Studio presentation, Apple clearly said they think modular is better for pros so there's no way I see them making an iMac Pro. Remember the iMac Pro was only made originally because the Mac Pro with the trashcan design was so hated and the replacement so behind in development (partially due to Intel) that they needed a stop-gap solution for pros. The Mac Studio is perfect for pros now. I'm more excited what they'll do with the M2 Mac Pro.
I think this is why they're going to come out with a Mac mini with M2 Pro chip.For everyone saying just buy a mac mini + studio display:
mac mini max RAM: 16 GB.
I'm running 24 GB in my 2015 iMac and I most certainly will not go below that to future-proof.
That also puts the mini at $1099. And that's with a measly 512 GB storage.
+ $130-200 for a keyboard
+ $100 for a mouse/trackpad
Nevermind a camera, speakers, ...
The studio display starts at $1600.
So we're looking at minimum ~$3000.
My almost maxed out 27" iMac cost me $2400 back in 2015 + I think 100ish for RAM. With a 2 TB SSD at the Apple premium price.
Again, some people use their macs for more than web browsing, mail and watching Netflix, yet they don't need the minimum 10 cores and 32 GB RAM for a starting point of $$3600 (studio+display) of a mac studio.
Prosumers exist. They're very widespread in the edu and science sector.
And no, despite what some here in the comments love to claim, a 4K and a 5k monitor at 27" or more very very much are not the same.
Most 27" iMacs sold including build in display, keyboard, mouse were 1/2 that cost. A larger up to date iMac would be a lot more attractive to consumers that open one box and set it up.Modularity. If you are a Pro spending 5k on equipment, modularity gives you more value over the long run.
Edit: I am not saying $5k is unreasonable for a pro to spend on equipment, I am saying that a pro is better off balancing the computing cost and the display cost separately for their own needs. Need power but don’t care about display quality. Balance budget accordingly. Need that high end Ezio but only enough horse power to edit photos. Balance that budget accordingly.
A $5k all in one is just a horrible value proposition for pros, as it provides no flexibility or modularity.
I agree. I don't think Apple makes an iMac Pro but I do think they'll make a bigger brother to the 24" iMac. IOW, a 24" and 27" iMac, both with M3 and with the possibility of M3 Pro upgrade option in the 27" model.At the Mac Studio presentation, Apple clearly said they think modular is better for pros so there's no way I see them making an iMac Pro.
Good thing you are not the only person buying Macs.Besides, now that I have an ultra-wide 5K2K, there's no way I could go back to 16:10 again. That extra screen RE is now a MUST for me. Apple would have to roll out an iMac UltraWide with TDM to even get me to take a look.
I agree. I don't think Apple makes an iMac Pro but I do think they'll make a bigger brother to the 24" iMac. IOW, a 24" and 27" iMac, both with M3 and with the possibility of M3 Pro upgrade option in the 27" model.
It has always bothered me that we don't see several companies making drop-in boards, that you could put into an iMac to replace the logic board, that would turn it into an external display. Considering the amount of babble coming from iFixit I don't know why they don't get in on this. There's several threads on MacRumors of people turning an iMac into an external display, but not easily, and a group called Juicy Crumb with a funded kickstarter that has done this with the 2011 iMacs.What galls me about is that despite all the greenwashing from Apple, they haven't provided a way to use iMacs as external monitors. Can you imagine how many machines it would save from recycling if you could (say) plug a MacBook or a Mac Mini into one of those USB-C ports on the iMac and use it as a display?
IMHO I think for most people a 32" display is a bit large on a desk. ( I had three 27" iMacs, comparing them to 32" displays)For the love of christ a 32" model already. I moved on from 27" soooo long ago.
A $5k all in one is just a horrible value proposition for pros, as it provides no flexibility or modularity.
You can add me to that listThat's the dream a lot of people are actually willing to spend quite a bit of money on.
Curious... do you tile multiple windows side by side, or do you really need the extra width (for spreadsheets? video editing? or games?)Besides, now that I have an ultra-wide 5K2K, there's no way I could go back to 16:10 again. That extra screen RE is now a MUST for me. Apple would have to roll out an iMac UltraWide with TDM to even get me to take a look.
Because the display typically outlasts the computer in longevity. Esp if they introduce one with miniLED and promotion.an studio + a top tier 30" or 32" display you get there so....why not all in one at this point
Apple also doesn't want to put out a display with a pixel density below a certain point -- which is what you'd get if you stretched 5K pixels out over 32". I'd prefer a sharp 27" to a fuzzy 32".IMHO I think for most people a 32" display is a bit large on a desk. ( I had three 27" iMacs, comparing them to 32" displays)
If they enlarged the previous 27" display design right to the edges of the frame , you could see almost a 30" display likely be a 29.5" and it wouldn't take up any more desk space.
Because the display typically outlasts the computer in longevity. Esp if they introduce one with miniLED and promotion.
I'd prefer a sharp 27" to a fuzzy 32".