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So, a $1300 desktop in 2023 with 8GB RAM and 256 storage. So Apple. I bet the M3 will also keep 8GB RAM only as preconfigured.
It does suck that the third-party sellers don't stock non-base models. Seems really short sighted.
 
It does suck that the third-party sellers don't stock non-base models. Seems really short sighted.
It’s worse in markets like my country where Apple only sells preconfigured models, no BTO options. So the only AS Mac we can get that has 16GB of RAM are the 14-16” MacBook Pros. The rest (MacBook Air, M2 MacBook Pro, Mac mini and iMac) are 8GB RAM only.
 
The iMac Pro should be an Ultrawide 32:9 curved with retina resolution. Such a display does not exist yet, but has been announced as the new Samsung Odyssey G9 8K in early 2023.

They would basically compete with just one product on Earth. Perfect timing.
 
When there will be no more chip shortage, I hope they will start to update their entire product lineup in a matter of days when there's a new chip like M2. It won't really make sense to "wait" if it's going to keep the same design but just change the SoC.
 
I am desperate for a 32” Studio Display from Apple that doesn’t cost f#%$ing 6 thousand dollars with a stand! 😩
Same here. No way I can live with a 27 inch. Apple would like you to buy 2 Apple displays (judging by how many times we saw that set-up in Apple's marketing material). What a load of crap.
 
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And yet again everyone including this article conflates the 27" iMac and the iMac Pro.

Two different target demographics.

Why is that apparently such a hard concept for many?
That's it.
There is actually no replacement to my late 2012 27" maxed 2500€ish iMac.
Some keep on not seeing the gap in the actual lineup. I don't need a M1 Max and I don't have 2300€ to spend on a screenless Mac Studio only. Even a possible Mini M1 Pro + Studio Display would be way too expensive (more than 3000€).

I fear the expensive Studio Display release announced the death of an "affordable" all in one and quite powerful Mac.
 
Very unhappy that Apple marketing is gaming its customer base, providing less for same or more money (iMac 24"), and similar for much more $$ (Mac Studio). I use a 3.6GHz iMac 5K 27", late 2014 with fusion drive and 24 GB mem. It is a lovely machine, nice design, plenty fast for all my needs, great value (bought it used for 1K USD five years ago). Should Apple ever again make such a high value machine available, I might become a customer again. Meanwhile, I couldn't be happier with my now disinherited iMac. Big Sur is plenty powerful for me; I am not even tempted to work around Apple-compelled obsolescence roadblocks to running Monterey. There will always be a used market for these machines and they will support the needs of the vast majority of users going forward. Enough is enough. Don't reward the current Apple anti-customer policies. Put our $$ to better use until Apple comes to its senses.
 
That is one reason why they came out with the Studio Display so your display is not longer limited to the useful life of the computer inside and so it can be used with multiple computers.
Yeah, man. We all understand that monitors exist. But thanks for the reminder. Super relevant comment that didn't at all miss the entire point of the post you were responding to.
 
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Apple also doesn't want to put out a display with a pixel density below a certain point -- which is what you'd get if you stretched 5K pixels out over 32". I'd prefer a sharp 27" to a fuzzy 32".

LOL, a 32" 5K display is NOT going to look "fuzzy" 🤣
 
What galls me about is that despite all the greenwashing from Apple, they haven't provided a way to use iMacs as external monitors. Can you imagine how many machines it would save from recycling if you could (say) plug a MacBook or a Mac Mini into one of those USB-C ports on the iMac and use it as a display?

This is possible with older iMacs:

 
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Most 27" iMacs sold including build in display, keyboard, mouse were 1/2 that cost. A larger up to date iMac would be a lot more attractive to consumers that open one box and set it up.

Right, so you want a larger (27-32") not-pro branded iMac with the M1 chip, maybe M1 Pro chip as an upgrade option, for somewhere around $2.5-3k correct?

Even then, it seems to me the value would be in buying the 27" Studio Display and a Mac Mini. That would get you the larger screen size and your M1 computer (possibly M1 Pro if Apple ever updates the Mac Mini with a MX Pro chip). That would give you the added benifit of being able to use the monitor for a spare MacBook as well. Then in 5 years or so, instead of shelling out another $2.5-3k, you only need to shell out another $600-1,000 for a new Mac Mini and you can keep using your display.

I really just don't see the value in a large screened iMac. You are sinking so much money into that nice display, that you will then not be able to use when the internals get outdated.

A small all in one makes sense to me as a super simple option for a kids room, or for granny to check her email/pay the bills on, etc. But once you start putting serious money into the thing (which happens when you have a nice, big display), it just makes sense to buy the display and either the Mac Mini or Mac Studio (depending on your needs) separately.
 
I have yet to actually see a display that equals my 7 years old iMac's display in quality that doesn't cost just as much as the entire iMac (which includes a whole computer in addition to the display).

The Studio Display is $1,600. Which means you spent less that $1,200 in 2015 for your iMac? That seems like an abnormally good deal no?

Or are you saying the Studio Display looks worse than your non-retina 2015 iMac? If so, most reviewers disagree with you. Personally I could never go back to resolutions that low for a daily monitor.


Edit: My guess is you paid $2k for a 27" 5k iMac in 2015. That is $2,500 in todays dollars. So you could buy the $1,600 Studio Display and spend $900 on a Mac Mini. The Studio Display looks better than the 2015 "retina" iMac Screen. So I really don't understand your argument about how you can't get a Mac today that looks just as good as your 2015 iMac for the same price....sound highly suspicious to me....
 
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Yeah, man. We all understand that monitors exist. But thanks for the reminder. Super relevant comment that didn't at all miss the entire point of the post you were responding to.
The point was that Apples solution to the problem you pose is different than the solution you posed. Apples seems to prefer using separate displays rather than using the iMac as a display. I’m not saying that is right or wrong but it seems to be the direction they have chosen.
 
Think i paid around $2000 for the late2012 iMac, looking back at all the money wasted on hardware, this is the best $2k I ever spent by far. 10 years later it’s still chugging along without any issues or performance problems while remain silent. Only things I did was upgrading the memory myself to 24gb for $150 extra when I got it in 2012 since it’s much cheaper vs Apple memory. And more recently switch it over to use an external Samsung ssd via usb for more space, with added benefit of gave a huge boost to performance, like a new mac. If Apple doesn’t artificially block new macos upgrade I can probably use it for another 10 years. As it is now I am ready to drop 5k for the next 27 iMac, because I know I will use it for 10+ years compared to the average pc life of 3-4 years before it becomes crap. There something elegant of having a single wire with just a monitor on your desk and that’s it.
Even with the RAM upgrade, that's under $0.60 a day, and you're still getting security patches for Catalina.
 
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Besides, now that I have an ultra-wide 5K2K, there's no way I could go back to 16:10 again. That extra screen RE is now a MUST for me. Apple would have to roll out an iMac UltraWide with TDM to even get me to take a look.
What do you recommend for an ultra-wide display?
 
LG makes great ultrawides and I love them, but the adoption is a bit slower than I expected. I don't expect apple to even consider ultra-wides until HP/Dell and others waste their time testing market fit.
 
That's it.
There is actually no replacement to my late 2012 27" maxed 2500€ish iMac.
Some keep on not seeing the gap in the actual lineup. I don't need a M1 Max and I don't have 2300€ to spend on a screenless Mac Studio only. Even a possible Mini M1 Pro + Studio Display would be way too expensive (more than 3000€).

I fear the expensive Studio Display release announced the death of an "affordable" all in one and quite powerful Mac.
2500€ in 2012 is ~3100€ today…
 
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