They came into the game too late, yes, but BlackBerry OS10 was the best mobile OS ever made, imo. It died because of a lack of third party developer support. The final nail in the coffin for BlackBerry was when they moved to Android.
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iPhone 12 Pro Max What’s so great about iMessage?
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Fact. OS10 was awesome. I had a z10 I think it was. The camera was garbage but other than that it was pretty sweet. But yeah it had no 3rd party apps that I needed which was a huge bummer.
I guess the largest userbase, China, doesn't even know iMessage exists. WeChat all the way.
That’s a fair point. But idk if that is a condemnation of iMessages validity as a messaging client when it’s not a choice.
Nope
it was way too buggy. I did test a pre release version of that build when Blackberry was trying to get big players to release apps on their platform. We ended up scrapping the project because the platform was just not there and the time and effort didn’t make any business sense.
You should have had more patience. OS10 quickly matured. I had a BlackBerry Passport for 2 years which worked flawlessly. I’d still be using it 'till this day if it wasn’t for the developers jumping ship. It was *that* good, especially as a work phone. The touch sensitive physical keyboard with support for 3 different languages with predictive text at the same time was simply unsurpassed - still is. Nothing beats that typing experience. Not then, and not now. The same goes for the UI. I read that Apple brought developers from BlackBerry OS10 when they first made the gesture based UI for the iPhone X; that Apple basically “borrowed” their new UI design from BlackBerry. I don’t know how much truth there is to that claim, but they certainly are very similar. However, iOS lacks the Hub, some of the simplicity, and the openness of OS10. Anyway, this is completely off topic.Nopeit was way too buggy. I did test a pre release version of that build when Blackberry was trying to get big players to release apps on their platform. We ended up scrapping the project because the platform was just not there and the time and effort didn’t make any business sense.
Thats obvious. I was just pointing out why third party apps are more common in third world countries.
Well put, and I agree, I believe this is the one major advantage that makes iMessage truly unique. All of iMessage’s other major features can probably be found in one chat app or another. But the other possible unique thing about iMessage is that it may be the only app to combine all the important features that people have described in this thread.
Maybe someone has mentioned this as I didn’t read the whole thread, but as far as being built into the stock texting app, apparently, Google is finally starting to catch up to the idea with their Google Messages app, which can now combine regular sms texts with data texts. But it’s not the default texting app yet for all phones and/or the function has to be enabled, or something along those lines. I imagine this will eventually change though and it will become default like iMessage. It’s also working on end to end encryption supposedly.
But as of now, I believe iMessage is the only app that has the entire feature set, plus is built right in to the default texting app, plus is from a company with a business model conducive to protecting customers’ data and privacy.
Google is not even close to catching up with iMessage. RCS messaging features on Android must be enabled by both parties / people who are messaging. 99% of people have no idea and don't care about this feature. The carriers (here in the U.S.) are to blame as well, they are horrible and drag their feet. In theory RCS is great. In practice, it is still a colossal mess.
For me personally, it just 'works'. And, most people I communicate with, use an iPhone.
So, there's that...
So, there's that...
How would it lose the end to end encryption? Signl can do it cross platform, why can’t iMessage?
Because there is no iMessage client for Android... when communicating with a non-Apple (iOS/macOS) client, it falls back to SMS/MMS, which is not encrypted.
This was I believe written as a what if scenario and if there was a client then the same end to end encryption argument would apply to either software.
Well, looking at the conversation, the person took your post as a statement that end to end encryption isn’t possible and delivered an example to the contrary. Apple decided they don’t WANT to offer that service on Android hence leaving the field to the competition. Signal do, on the other hand, offering an alternative for those who want to get rid of other messengers.
That’s totally different. If Apple made an iMessage client for android, it would have end to end encryption. You said:
and that’s wrong, because if there was an iMessage client, it would work the same as signal and others, end to end encrypted.
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas. You are arguing that iMessage WOULD provide end-to-end encryption to Android, IF there was an iMessage client for Android... probably so... but it's not going to happen, so at best it's a straw man argument that you built just to tear down.
Well done. #sigh.
I'm out.
Sorry you were simply called out with a practical example that your entry statement was bananas.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
