What's the point of nightstand mode if it won't stay on?

flur

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So that you can easily see the time when you're groggy and your watch is sitting on its side.

If you were to leave the screen on all night, odds are good you wouldn't like the results.
 
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BillyTrimble

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So that you can easily see the time when you're groggy and your watch is sitting on its side.

If you were to leave the screen on all night, odds are good you wouldn't like the results.
Huh? I don't understand your reply. What results wouldn't I like? The alarm program I use on my iPhone stays on and shows me the time all night. The phone is being charged, so that's not an issue. And I change the brightness of the display to anything I want.

A nightstand clock should show the time all the time at whatever brightness I want. I should have to reach out and touch something if I wake up at night and just want to see the time. Anything that doesn't do this is NOT a nightstand watch/alarm.
 

gsmornot

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I think its a feature. I have not tried myself yet but it seems all you have to do is move the watch a little to activate the display. May not be easy to find in the dark. I like my room dark when I sleep but I would be ok with a watch face being on low.
 
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RodThePlod

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wouldnt want anything burning into the oled screen now would we.
I didn't think OLED screens suffer from image retention issues - but who knows with Apple's implementation... This could be the reason they've opted not to support permanent on.

Having said that, I'd love a permanent display when in Nightstand mode, too. So I'm hoping that this feature will become a real option in future watchOS 2 beta builds, or the final 2.0 release when it appears in a few month's time.
 
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D.T.

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I didn't think OLED screens suffer from image retention issues - but who knows with Apple's implementation... This could be the reason they've opted not to support permanent on.
They could bounce the image around like anti-retention on TVs, other media devices (assuming retention is an issue). I expect NSM to be a good bit more useful by the time W/OS 2.0 is a production release :)
 

iBighouse

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Just like when your watch comes to life when you lift it to look at it, your watch will notice you opening your eyelids and come to life. It's actually got a very small camera embedded in it that can tell when you're looking at it...and it watches (pun intended) your every move.
 

ericgtr12

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Sure, if you like nightstand mode so much that you want to see it permanently burned into your screen.

There's a reason Apple didn't design it to stay on, LOL.
Please, feel free to ignore all the discussion about this and OLED above.
 
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D.T.

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Just like when your watch comes to life when you lift it to look at it, your watch will notice you opening your eyelids and come to life. It's actually got a very small camera embedded in it that can tell when you're looking at it...and it watches (pun intended) your every move.
If that's the case, I'm, ummm, seriously going to have to change my night time behavior ...
 

ericgtr12

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Let's concede, for a minute, that image burn could be a factor, are we to believe that a the clock wouldn't have the ability to move slightly in a screensaver motion?
 
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samiznaetekto

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Let's concede, for a minute, that image burn could be a factor, are we to believe that a the clock wouldn't have the ability to move slightly in a screensaver motion?
That would be copying Android Wear, and Apple usually doesn't do it immediately, they wait several years to save their face ("the grapes were sour then... now they're ripe"). So, expect the proper nightstand mode in 3-4 years.
 

TrueBlou

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It is absolutely possible for OLED to suffer from image retention, although color drift is more likely, just as it's possible for LCD/LED to have image retention.

But bear in mind although visibly similar to traditional burn in and retention, on these displays it's actually caused by physically different things.
 
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