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WhatsApp Protests Apple's App Store Privacy Requirements

Apple privacy, ... Sorry apple can't scare me. This is the same apple where steve leased a new car every couple of months to get a car with no license plates. I'm not that paranoid. I'm not afraid of my own shadow.
 
Janschi said:
Are u aware that this feature isn’t live yet and Apple Apps most likely will have labels too, if they collect data.
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Except that iMessage isn't in the app store. Even if it were, no one would see the label because the app is pre-installed and they wouldn't need to look for it.
Not a fan of Facebook, but they have a valid point. I also support the privacy labels and think they should apply to every app.
 
Just gone through this myself, and we will change our (required) link to the company's privacy policy so that it first explains in detail what our app collects in which situations.
 
If a core part of Apple's business was aggregating user data and basically "mind selling" (i.e. Cambridge Analytica) I would kind of understand. But it isn't. That is a core part of Facebook and other third party businesses however. So I dont think those rules really apply here.

Let's not forget Apple is the one forcing third party apps to play nice because Apple wants its customers protected. Mainly because to Apple it's end user is more important than any third party business it deals with.

Also, Apple could easily match AI processing speeds that google etc.. operate at if it literally forgot about privacy and centralised / mined all user data by default. But it doesnt, and suffers because of that. But thats because to Apple, privacy is a big deal. For other companies, not so much.
 
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Appleman3546 said:
It is weird that Apple doesn’t allow rating or privacy labels for its own apps. You would think that this privacy focused Apple company would want this feature to highlight themselves from their competitors, not shy away from their own double standard.
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you don’t know this. It it’s not rolled out yet.

Don’t bite on facebook’s propoganda.
 
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macfacts said:
Apple privacy, ... Sorry apple can't scare me. This is the same apple where steve leased a new car every couple of months to get a car with no license plates. I'm not that paranoid. I'm not afraid of my own shadow.
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Every 6 months. That is what is permitted in the California law.
 
"WhatsApp says that these terms may worry users about the data WhatsApp collects, giving it a competitive disadvantage"

That's the entire idea - how absurdly disingenuous can WhatsApp be?

That label is exclusively there to shed a light on your surveillance capitalist practices and how you sell users' private data for commercial exploitation.
 
Moonjumper said:
All Apple need to do is publish the privacy labels for their own apps. Which they should be doing as they require it of others. I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen when it all goes live.
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I guess when you make a point not to to store personalized tracking data you don't need to. But the truth is all of Apple's software explicitly tells you what it does and even clearly asks for permission to communicate with Apple . Something that can be denied.
 
bchah said:
One of the first things you do when setting up an iPhone is go through an extensive review of the privacy policy, and you're given the option to turn all sorts of things on and off. Are WhatsApp suggesting Apple needs to show this information a *second* time, when iMessage is opened? Holds no water.
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As a mobile app developer I can assure you there are no disable options for the multitude of data collection abilities out there.

when’s the last time you saw a toggle to not allow connections to Google Firebase? That’s happening in the background of many apps you likely use.
 
genovelle said:
I guess when you make a point not to to store personalized tracking data you don't need to. But the truth is all of Apple's software explicitly tells you what it does and even clearly asks for permission to communicate with Apple . Something that can be denied.
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Apple is requiring this of apps that do not store any personalised tracking data, including those that make a point of not storing data. I agree Apple do tell you already, as do everyone else in the existing privacy policies required by the App Store. Apple are requiring the new format that is standardised and hopefully easier to read. It makes sense for Apple themselves to be part of that.

I'm not saying they need to do it again to new users, just to show the privacy report as part of the device set up.
 
Who exactly is downloading iMessage from the app store. Even if they added those labels, no one would ever see them before use. We get the privacy screen during initial device set up.

Piss off Facebook, you’re trash.
 
Agree Apple should publish their own privacy label especially since their stock apps can now be deleted and therefore downloaded again from the App Store.

However iMessage isn't an app on the iPhone its a service. The app is messages which if you turn off iMessage in settings is a stock app for SMS and MMS a standard offering on all GSM phones.

And that isn't competing with Whatsapp etc IMO. If you go down that route every GSM would need to allow SMS messages to be removed and use a service like Whatsapp as default.

iMessage's brilliance is its integration with SMS messages, where the user needs do nothing. Its either goes as iMessage (to an apple device) or an SMS (to a non Apple device)
 
Standard ******** from Facebook. I have WhatsApp I have Messages. I don’t want my phone crippled due to their bollocks, leave my messages app alone!
 
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