When Can We Expect the Redesigned MacBook Pros Now?

[BigPotatoLobbyist]

My late-2016 15-inch MBP died a few weeks ago. Not hilarious at all needing to either go without a computer for weeks or months or spend over $3,000 on a 2019 Intel model.

an m1 air, baseline, probably would do 95% of the same and 30-70% faster. Just buy and resell later, accept the loss.

 

[transpo1]

Not if #240 is right.

I don't think so- it would be beyond the pale for Apple to launch Monterey without hardware to push. They are in the hardware business, after all. There will be MBPs announced in the fall.

 

[jk73]

I don't think so- it would be beyond the pale for Apple to launch Monterey without hardware to push. They are in the hardware business, after all. There will be MBPs announced in the fall.

I sure hope so.

 

[chucker23n1]

I think it's more amusing because I know how it feels to be on 14NM or even 10NN which isn't that much better in terms of PPW. (intel on both). Basically yea I know, it blows

it really is pathetic how the industry was let down all these years IMO

Well, moving from the 14nm Whiskey Lake to the 10nm Ice Lake made 25W CPUs a whopping 64% faster in single-threaded tasks, and 86% at multi-threaded tasks. That's nothing to sneeze at. Tiger Lake then added another 14% / 8%. (Which, amusingly, is well below the typical Apple y-o-y improvement.)

 

[BigPotatoLobbyist]

Well, moving from the 14nm Whiskey Lake to the 10nm Ice Lake made 25W CPUs a whopping 64% faster in single-threaded tasks, and 86% at multi-threaded tasks. That's nothing to sneeze at. Tiger Lake then added another 14% / 8%. (Which, amusingly, is well below the typical Apple y-o-y improvement.)

Haha to be fair I think a improving thermals were arguably of bigger benefit than 14 to 10 in terms of intel IME; my Windows laptop on 14NM felt snappy as hell. For five minutes. Likewise with ice lake Windows laptop.
Ice lake MBP, still a marginal difference in the immediate speed and fluidity throughout an OS, but the moment a workflow got going it was night and day due to the thermal constraints or lack thereof in the actual chassis.

The M1, probably owing to the power consumption profile that lends itself toward a highly consistent perceived latency and throughput - is cognitively associated with a much larger jump in my mind than the burst benchmarks would have it, which makes sense. And this doubles for the battery department, which, really just makes a mockery of the last decade of PC insanity and lack of emphasis on PPW. Hell, even for desktops a quiet & relatively lean system is nothing to overlook.