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Unfortunately, the most likely scenario now is an October announcement, either with iPhones or right after. I hope we're all surprised with an announcement sooner, but it seems unlikely Apple will do that while the BtS promotion is in effect.
In no way is that the most likely scenario.

The most likely scenario is they launch sometime in July/August as has been predicted and reported on for months. When that time passes, the most likely scenario will change.
 
Back to school promotion just went live (just received the email from Apple). At this point I wouldn’t expect new laptop announcements until after the back to school promo has expired.
I don't think that really has any bearing on release dates. The M1 based MacBook Air, M1 13" MBP, and 24" M1 iMac are all available, along with popular iPadAir and M1 iPad Pro for educational buyers. Hey Free AirPods. :D

What all of us are waiting on is for the 16" MBP revision and 32" iMac revisions against the given part shortages causing delays that Apple previous commented on.

At this point in time more serious users of Macs aren't buying until we see Apple announce these. ;)
 
In no way is that the most likely scenario.

The most likely scenario is they launch sometime in July/August as has been predicted and reported on for months. When that time passes, the most likely scenario will change.
Agreed. It wasn't at WWDC because a possible announcement was more then a month off. The 2020 iMac announcement was August 4th as a comparison.
 
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Unfortunately, the most likely scenario now is an October announcement, either with iPhones or right after. I hope we're all surprised with an announcement sooner, but it seems unlikely Apple will do that while the BtS promotion is in effect.
Why is October "most likely"? A summer update for the MBP is not at all unusual, and seems to be what's rumored.
 
My guess is a press release announcement some time in July.
I certainly hope so, and yes, they have announced new models in July before, but with the fanfare these will receive, they may want to wait to capitalize on the release of Monterey and wait until BtS promotion ends.

And, if they announce in July, they won't ship until Aug-Sept; if they were going to ship in July/Aug, they would have just announced at WWDC.
 
Why is October "most likely"? A summer update for the MBP is not at all unusual, and seems to be what's rumored.
If you look at the date, they are more often released in the fall. That said, I hope this year is an outlier and they're announced during summer.
 
Unfortunately, the most likely scenario now is an October announcement, either with iPhones or right after. I hope we're all surprised with an announcement sooner, but it seems unlikely Apple will do that while the BtS promotion is in effect.
Yeah they won’t. It will coincide with Monterey. Nice little package deal.
 
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In no way is that the most likely scenario.

The most likely scenario is they launch sometime in July/August as has been predicted and reported on for months. When that time passes, the most likely scenario will change.
Well, someone's grouchy. I guess you have some inside information you'd like to share that confirms it? Everyone's been saying the second half of 2021. Since we all know there's a global supply shortage going on, that could mean anything. That said, I do hope you're right.

If they plan to announce over the summer and that's the BtS promotion has started early, then fine be me- I can't wait for these laptops.

But the key here is the ship date, not the announcement. WWDC would have been the perfect place to announce and then ship a month later in July. But since they didn't, that would mean the ship date is later than July, either Aug or September at earliest. And if I'm a marketing exec, I might look at that and say "why don't we wait for Monterey in Oct/November."

So, anything is possible. I'm rooting for a summer announcement and Aug/Sept ship date as well, but I'm skeptical now it will happen.
 
BTS runs through Sept. 27 and the return window runs until 15 days after that.

If Apple will announce new iPhones and Apple Watches (and probably AirPods) during BTS, and we know they’re going to, not sure why MBPs would be off the table.
Because the promo always includes machines that are out during the promo. Launching CPUs that qualify for BTS during BTS would cause tremendous confusion, returns, etc. They’ll never do it. And have never done it.
 
Agreed. It wasn't at WWDC because a possible announcement was more then a month off. The 2020 iMac announcement was August 4th as a comparison.
It's the ship date, gang, not the announcement that matters. If they could have shipped in late July, they would have announced at WWDC- they had the perfect platform to do so. If they're going to announce in August, it's because they can't ship until late August or September, and so on...
 
I certainly hope so, and yes, they have announced new models in July before, but with the fanfare these will receive, they may want to wait to capitalize on the release of Monterey and wait until BtS promotion ends.

And, if they announce in July, they won't ship until Aug-Sept; if they were going to ship in July/Aug, they would have just announced at WWDC.
New Macs are not tied to a upcoming OS release historically. All they need is some version that allows hardware operation such as 11.5 as a example. BtS is irreverent given what's already released. Apple doesn't announce products way in advance. The 24" iMac had a 3 week window before they were available. WWDC on June 7th, likely didn't foreshadow anything for the remainder of June, but July and August is quite possible before you have the usual iPhone event early Sept. :)
 
New Macs are not tied to a upcoming OS release historically. All they need is some version that allows hardware operation such as 11.5 as a example. BtS is irreverent given what's already released. Apple doesn't announce products way in advance. The 24" iMac had a 3 week window before they were available. WWDC on June 7th, likely didn't foreshadow anything for the remainder of June, but July and August is quite possible before you have the usual iPhone event early Sept. :)
I think it’s possible, but yet they announced iPads in April with late May availability, so, with the supply shortages, I think that the MBP situation could look similar.
 
New Macs are not tied to a upcoming OS release historically. All they need is some version that allows hardware operation such as 11.5 as a example. BtS is irreverent given what's already released. Apple doesn't announce products way in advance. The 24" iMac had a 3 week window before they were available. WWDC on June 7th, likely didn't foreshadow anything for the remainder of June, but July and August is quite possible before you have the usual iPhone event early Sept. :)
Yes, a July/Aug announcement is possible. Is it likely? I’m skeptical.
 
Yes, a July/Aug announcement is possible. Is it likely? I’m skeptical.
This will help on the M2 MBP guessing. Some years offered multiple models.
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Yeah... I also noticed that the WWDC session videos have the old Mac "bong" at the start, which does make it kinda seem like a new MBP—that reprises the old boot chime—was actually supposed to be released... but who knows, maybe it's just some weird "teaser"... ??
btw... It's not that I have anything against Monterey... Actually, there are some cool dev technologies coming up that will make it a pretty exciting upgrade. I just don't want to be stopped by lagging third-party compatibility updates.
 
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Because the promo always includes machines that are out during the promo. Launching CPUs that qualify for BTS during BTS would cause tremendous confusion, returns, etc.

Why would there be confusion or returns? The overwhelming majority of BTS buyers aren’t even considering 16-inch MBPs. A few savvy buyers might exchange a 13” for a 14”, but they’d only have a 15-day return window and they might be looking at a month or more for the new one to ship, since initial supply is expected to be constrained.

They’ll never do it. And have never done it.

Apple has released new computers in July before.
 
What's really sucking is that Chase has a new promo for the Sapphire Preferred Credit Card... $1250 in travel, or $1000 in cash, if you spend $4000 in 3 months... offer expires July 1...


Guess what I really want to spend some money on but I don't know if it will be available at all within that three months?!

Well, they aren't getting me until they both offer the 100,000 bonus points AND the MBPs have a firm release date from Apple.

I don't need the card that bad (already pre-approved for it but meh, it only feels worth getting if I spend on a brand new 14" MBP within those first 3 months, otherwise take a hike Chase, Apple Card rocks.
 
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I really hope they come out this fall man, I've been waiting way too long to update my 2014 MBP (and for good reasons). At first it was cause of the ****** butterfly keyboard, then it was because I hated the touchbar, and now they even decided to bring some regular ports back alongside architectural changes to make it the perfect replacement :c.
What happens when the TouchBar is still there? What happens when it still has the same 4 ports but just TB4? Relying on pure rumors is going to set you up for disappointment!
 
Exactly same here.
Wallet ready and in the meantime using the mid-2012 with all possible options at that time: super duper machine!!!
9 years and counting!
HELL YEAH ITS A KICK ASS MACHINE ! I own one and its still rocking ! Good to see 2012 supporters alive and well.
 
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