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Logical fallacies rarely make for a compelling argument.

As I said before; the existing hardware (including the A8 chipset) offer native support for 4K. Apple had to purposefully disable 4K via software. Had Apple not taken this route, in theory, 4K would have been supported by default. Why disable something that is already supported by your hardware? And please... for the love of my sanity don't repeat the same baseless argument "Lack of content".

There is nothing to gain by disabling something your hardware already supports because the content isn't there. You leave it enabled and promote it as a future-proofing feature.

On that note check out a program named "WALTR" (http://softorino.com/waltr/play-4k-video-on-iphone-6) it shows that the A8 can take 4K input but outputs 1080p.

At least by enabling 4K Apple can allow you to build up your content library. Then for Apple TV 5 they can allow streaming.
 
I agree with the improvements part, but it is a 4th gen device. A generation doesn't stop just because of product advancement. Just the opposite.

Yes it is the 4th Apple TV. But c'mon those other 3 were never a product where Apple even payed it any attention. As I said before, the others were classified by Apple as an iPod product. That is why is was buried in that section.

I consider this with tvOS as starting from scratch. I'm excited to see what the jailbreak community, Devs and Apple will bring to tvOS
 
Yes it is the 4th Apple TV. But c'mon those other 3 were never a product where Apple even payed it any attention. As I said before, the others were classified by Apple as an iPod product. That is why is was buried in that section.

I consider this with tvOS as starting from scratch. I'm excited to see what the jailbreak community, Devs and Apple will bring to tvOS

Actually I think the ATV is 'buried' in the Other section because its individual revenue falls below the 10% threshold specified by the SEC.
 
I agree with the improvements part, but it is a 4th gen device. A generation doesn't stop just because of product advancement. Just the opposite.

if you know software development, it is called one step back and three steps forward. tvOS sets a base foundation for innovation. sometime old code base is too complex and can't scale. the only way to design better code is to get rid of the legacy and design from scratch. though from consumer perspective, it seems like a step backward only, for now.

with a few features lost, ATV 4 gains new ones (and more in the future, hence scale):
1) advanced remote with gyroscope, touch, voice, controlling TV power/volume.
2) most importantly, Apps. tvOS is opened up for new features with apps and games. it only gets better with time.
3) bluetooth headphones. To many, this is a feature that is used more frequently than keyboard or remote apps.
4) voice command. for example, "turn on subtitle"
5) global voice search. this is big compared to competitor: google TV can't search netflix.
6) app switcher (nice touch)
7) overall UI is smooth and more modern compared with ATV 3.
8) app organized with folder in the future. ATV3 is cluttered and spammed with apps. ATV3 os can't support folder.
 
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Maybe it's because I just watched American Horror Story last night where the entitled hipsters were complaining that the bathroom tile had a crack in it, or the Yelp episode of South Park I caught last week where everyone felt like it was their purpose in life to review everything, but these recent posts about how bad the new Apple TV is for them just blow my mind.

It wasn't that long ago the mainstream consumer would wait for a product to mature a bit before committing to a purchase. The early adopters who wanted the cutting edge technology were willing to sacrifice stability, functionality, and better value (i.e. lower cost) in exchange for being the first to own an item.

Today we have a forum full of outrage because a new device doesn't fulfill the buyer's every expectation. Where did these expectations come from? Apple never stated that the Apple TV 4 would support profiles, or that it would definitely work with the remote app on day 1, or that it would (enter entitled unmet expectation here.) It's not like they're over-promising at press release and under-delivering at product release. So how are these expectations being set?

I'm all for discussing shortcomings & wish lists of services or functionality; however, this isn't what's happening. The outrage is so full of hyperbole it's painting a picture of a completely failed product launch that isn't actually reflective of reality. If the device doesn't suit your needs, why is it necessary to come online and create a new thread that tonally suggests the product ruined your life?

For what it's worth, I have an Apple TV 4. I still have 3's in the house. I've had 2's. I've had a Roku.
- The aTV 4 is a great product. It's a significant enhancement over the experience of the previous generation.
- It has room for improvement, which will be possible via software updates.
- None of its shortcomings are substantial enough to render it unusable.
- I know of no competing device which overwhelmingly improves upon the experience I'm looking for.
- I recognize that this is new hardware running new software, and therefore there may be anomalous issues which I will need to work around or through until a software fix is provided.
- I am also grateful to be using a device which can be (and is) regularly updated via software - unlike, say, my car infotainment system and other technology solutions I've experienced both past and present.
All of the angst surrounding early adoption has me pining for the days when only the fringe geeks and nerds bought the new stuff. If one catches fire or something, what level of angst will be left to escalate to since we're all so upset over keyboard layouts and game center profiles?

I would argue you simply have low expectations. Imagine you bought a receiver with Dolby Digital and it only supported 5.1 when Atmos was available and 7.1 was the norm, just because it was buggy.
 
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