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Where did I say I was a virgin? If you read back and find my post I'll of said I'm not one and I wished I wasn't drunk at the time:(.
My mistake. You just sounded like a David Brent character: "...or her life." Or was it Monty Python? Whatever, we know women are human, too.
 
There now. I knew that would get me quoted a few more times. :D

The point is, do what you want - I'm not trying to define your morals for you - but morals have gone downhill in the 50-100 years. Period. I respect that you define morality differently, but whether or not the viewpoint is correct is a matter of debate. Period.

@MrSmith: I can't figger out whether you last post there was sarcastic or serious?
 
Why on earth should anyone be proud of a strategy that will inevitably lead to a higher level of dissatisfaction in life? Sexual compatibility isn't a guaranteed thing. How would you feel if upon your wedding night you realise that neither of you does anything for the other? It simply makes sense to test the waters, it doesn't make sex any less special to do so in fact I'm adamant that it makes it more so.

Because of talking, knowing the other person? I wonder if full intercourse will work between me and my girlfriend, physically as well as mentally/what we expect and such. But that doesn't matter so much because where stand now we have a great time together. If sex works=great. If it doesn't we've got our current fumblings to fall back on.
I don't even think the strict catholic folk who wait until marriage never talk about sex and what they expect on the night. And from the catholic folk I know - those who do wait until marriage fill their boots in the million of other nekkid ways one can show love to another person.

But also... Where is the line drawn? If my girlfriend becomes a lesbian does that mean she automatically loses her virginity going off events in our hetero relationship?
 
Don't forget you're talking to a US audience here. Ideas about sex are quite varied.

Remember, show a breast being caressed and the movie is rated X, show it being cut off and it's rated R. We have some seriously messed up values here.

Oh I know, I fully realise that my own lifestyle's on the extreme end of things but everyone has their sexual fantasies, whether it's light roleplay or hardcore bondage if you repress that side of you it'll just drive you dementia or even to satisfying your fetish in secret with others due to of fear of judgement from your loved one.
 
Oh I know, I fully realise that my own lifestyle's on the extreme end of things but everyone has their sexual fantasies, whether it's light roleplay or hardcore bondage if you repress that side of you it'll just drive you dementia or even to satisfying your fetish in secret with others due to of fear of judgement from your loved one.

That's funny. I know lots of people like you. :) I thought you all were fairly common. I guess I've just been in the city too long. I can't remember what the burbs were like anymore. Thank god for that.
 
But that doesn't matter so much because where stand now we have a great time together. If sex works=great. If it doesn't we've got our current fumblings to fall back on.

Woah there, don't assume that sex isn't an important part of a relationship, many couples fall apart because they desire different things in that area. I wouldn't place too much stock on previous feelings once you two start becoming more sexually active. Sex changes things, and the more you explore yourself and your partner's sexuality, the clearer you'll be about what you really want. Hopefully it is something she can provide you, but don't be too surprised if sexual incompatibilities cause strain later on in the relationship since you don't yet know what those are.

But also... Where is the line drawn? If my girlfriend becomes a lesbian does that mean she automatically loses her virginity going off events in our relationship?

Wait, what....why would her being a rug muncher have anything to do with her virginity?
 
Because of talking, knowing the other person? I wonder if full intercourse will work between me and my girlfriend, physically as well as mentally/what we expect and such. But that doesn't matter so much because where stand now we have a great time together. If sex works=great. If it doesn't we've got our current fumblings to fall back on.
I don't even think the strict catholic folk who wait until marriage never talk about sex and what they expect on the night. And from the catholic folk I know - those who do wait until marriage fill their boots in the million of other nekkid ways one can show love to another person.

But also... Where is the line drawn? If my girlfriend becomes a lesbian does that mean she automatically loses her virginity going off events in our hetero relationship?

While talking and having a good knowledge of someone is certainly very helpful it's no substitute for practical experience IMO.

As for her virginity I suppose that depends on whether you've shoved a hand up there or not :p
 
That's funny. I know lots of people like you. :)


I do too. :)


At Folsom Street Fair 2007:




Fun times.


I thought you all were fairly common. I guess I've just been in the city too long. I can't remember what the burbs were like anymore. Thank god for that.

I can't either, I haven't been out of the greater Bay Area in a few years. Everyone I know who has says its a different world once you get outside the metropolitan limits. Eek.
 
Woah there, don't assume that sex isn't an important part of a relationship, many couples fall apart because they desire different things in that area. I wouldn't place too much stock on previous feelings once you two start becoming more sexually active. Sex changes things, and the more you explore yourself and your partner's sexuality, the clearer you'll be about what you really want. Hopefully it is something she can provide you, but don't be too surprised if sexual incompatibilities cause strain later on in the relationship since you don't yet know what those are.

Being together 6 years we kinda know each other enough that putting a willy up there isn't going to destroy everything we know about each other. And why should it? If we've done other things that simulate that kinda business then why would swapping x for y cause tension when we're married? It just saves time in the end.
We've gone through worse than something as daft as sexual tension. Even now I'd like to give it a shot and she says no, I still love her and I'm not putting any pressure on her for it. It isn't something that controls either of our lives - just something fun to do in the evenings, and given that we've got further to go I can only imagine good things are going to get better :)
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Being together 6 years we kinda know each other enough that putting a willy up there isn't going to destroy everything we know about each other. And why should it? If we've done other things that simulate that kinda business then why would swapping x for y cause tension when we're married? It just saves time in the end.
We've gone through worse than something as daft as sexual tension. Even now I'd like to give it a shot and she says no, I still love her and I'm not putting any pressure on her for it. It isn't something that controls my life.
Realises the hilarity of this thread.

Of course. I think what vniow is trying to say is that everyone is different. There is no one way to do anything, nor any one way to live your life well. It depends on the person. Some people don't care about sex much. Others like it a lot. So why do people think that the same rules apply to all relationships?
 
The point is, do what you want - I'm not trying to define your morals for you - but morals have gone downhill in the 50-100 years. Period. I respect that you define morality differently, but whether or not the viewpoint is correct is a matter of debate. Period.

People have always been doing the same things they do now. You just don't know about it, so you idealize the past.

And even 50-100 years ago, in the thick of this virtuous society you envision, people were sure that morals had decayed horribly in the past two generations. Plus ça change and all that.
 
I have a question! Why is it when ppl talk about sex in the US ppl are like "OMG sex! We don't talk about that" but in other places of the world it's not that of a big deal? Are Americans that immature when it comes to sex?
 
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