When did you lose your virginity?

[Melrose]

People have always been doing the same things they do now. You just don't know about it, so you idealize the past.

I see. And that means the reason you know I'm wrong is that you've been around for the last three thousand years and know differently? I'm sorry, but simply changing the subject by suggesting I'm not a student of history doesn't really prove anyone's viewpoint.

 

[204467]

I know what you're saying. I can talk about anything, too. But here I think the OP is just embarrassing himself.

How am I embarrassing myself?

I lost my virginity at 175.

Pounds, that is. I had been obese from childhood, and it wasn't until I had lost weight and I was 175 pounds that I lost my virginity in any way. I was also 18 years old, but I think that is less significant in my story.

Interesting way to look at it. Good for you that you lost that weight!

Yeah, that's kinda not going to last, you know...

He said that a large part of their relationship was based on sex, however, I'm sure a significant part is based on other things. I don't care how much you love someone for who they are, everyone gets horny sometimes. If you can't enjoy sex together, then that's going to be a big flaw in your relationship.

Don't forget you're talking to a US audience here. Ideas about sex are quite varied.

Remember, show a breast being caressed and the movie is rated X, show it being cut off and it's rated R. We have some seriously messed up values here.

It's so pathetic, isn't it. I really hate this country sometimes.

I have a question! Why is it when ppl talk about sex in the US ppl are like "OMG sex! We don't talk about that" but in other places of the world it's not that of a big deal? Are Americans that immature when it comes to sex?

Unfortunately, yes. That's just how immature people in this country are. Unfortunately, many of the people with the mindset you talked about are old and won't change how they think.

 

[leekohler]

I see. And that means the reason you know I'm wrong is that you've been around for the last three thousand years and know differently? I'm sorry, but simply changing the subject by suggesting I'm not a student of history doesn't really prove anyone's viewpoint.

Please tell me you're joking. You made an incorrect assertion. You got called on it. Relax.

He said that a large part of their relationship was based on sex, however, I'm sure a significant part is based on other things. I don't care how much you love someone for who they are, everyone gets horny sometimes. If you can't enjoy sex together, then that's going to be a big flaw in your relationship.

Mord is a female, FYI.

 

[kretzy]

I see. And that means the reason you know I'm wrong is that you've been around for the last three thousand years and know differently? I'm sorry, but simply changing the subject by suggesting I'm not a student of history doesn't really prove anyone's viewpoint.

Um last time I checked, history was full of people screwing around left, right and centre.

 

[Melrose]

Please tell me you're joking. You made an incorrect assertion. You got called on it. Relax.

My only point is don't shout down someone if you don't have the experience or references to prove it. The fact is that neither of us have such experience, so the point of questioning whether or not my viewpoint was correct based solely on that doesn't hold much water. If it can be otherwise proved using references and historical data I'm more than open to reading that material and increasing my knowledge, but simply based assumption, nope.

I realize people have been doing this for ages - what I said originally was that only recently has it become socially acceptable the last little while.

That is all.

 

[arkitect]

I see. And that means the reason you know I'm wrong is that you've been around for the last three thousand years and know differently? I'm sorry, but simply changing the subject by suggesting I'm not a student of history doesn't really prove anyone's viewpoint.

"Sexual intercourse began
In nineteen sixty-three
(Which was rather late for me)—
Between the end of the Chatterley ban
And the Beatles’ first LP."
Philip Larkin
You do realise that is actually not true…

 

[darkwing]

the op probably thinks hes "cool" since he lost it at 15 when he was a child and wants to tell everyone how much of a "man" he is lol

personally, i believe if you dont have the means to support any consequences of your decisions, you shouldnt be engaging in the practice

This is the most intelligent thing I've ever seen written on this forum. Thanks for restoring some of my faith in humanity.

 

[leekohler]

My only point is don't shout down someone if you don't have the experience or references to prove it. The fact is that neither of us have such experience, so the point of questioning whether or not my viewpoint was correct based solely on that doesn't hold much water. If it can be otherwise proved using references and historical data I'm more than open to reading that material and increasing my knowledge, but simply based assumption, nope.

I realize people have been doing this for ages - what I said originally was that only recently has it become socially acceptable the last little while.

That is all.

And that's utterly false. Have you never heard of the Roaring 20's? Ever seen porn from that period (yes, it existed, quite a bit of it too)? You would probably be shocked about what was going on back then publicly. Just about anything went back then, and that's fairly recent. Historically, sexual mores and norms have changed quiet drastically through time. There isn't anything going on today that hasn't been going on forever. It's all been out in the open before too. We certainly aren't the first.

 

[DigiCatRedux]

Is 18 years old considered "late to the party" nowdays? Oh well, no complaints- at least since then, I've had a fairly healthy sex life.

Interesting book about sex & why we have it I ran across a while back, by author Matt Ridley: "The Red Queen: Sex & the evolution of human nature".
Highly recommended read for those interested.

 

[vniow]

Please tell me you're joking. You made an incorrect assertion. You got called on it. Relax.

This ladies and gentlemen, is what is known on the internets as "getting pwned".

 

[204467]

Please tell me you're joking. You made an incorrect assertion. You got called on it. Relax.



Mord is a female, FYI.

Oops. I didn't know. Thanks for telling me. And sorry, Mord for mistaking your gender.

 

[leekohler]

This ladies and gentlemen, is what is known on the internets as "getting pwned".

Nah- just a friendly correction, that's all.

 

[vniow]

Nah- just a friendly correction, that's all.

I know, I was itching for an excuse to use the word "pwned" and that was all I could find.

 

[sushi]

Being together 6 years we kinda know each other enough that putting a willy up there isn't going to destroy everything we know about each other.

I would think that once two people go on to that level, the relationship will change by becoming better.

The key is do what is right for you two. Others do what is right for them.

Nope, I nabbed it from this page http://www.avatarcorner.com/avatars-psychedelic-85.htm

Some day i'll create one myself with coloured cubes.

Cool. Thanks.

Of course. I think what vniow is trying to say is that everyone is different. There is no one way to do anything, nor any one way to live your life well. It depends on the person. Some people don't care about sex much. Others like it a lot. So why do people think that the same rules apply to all relationships?

Well put and agree.

Are Americans that immature when it comes to sex?

I wouldn't say immature but rather different. Having lived in different places in the world, cultures are different plain and simple. They have their own standards.

One thing I find funny here in Japan, is that if they show the female private area in a magazine, it is xxx'ed out or hair is filled in so that you cannot see the subject matter. Yet, if you take a look at their comic books, they show everything in complete, and I mean complete, detail. Same with their anime and figurines. Yet, the US is basically the opposite. Funny.

Um last time I checked, history was full of people screwing around left, right and centre.

Kind of how we (mankind) got here, me thinks.

Have you never heard of the Roaring 20's? Ever seen porn from that period (yes, it existed, quite a bit of it too)? You would probably be shocked about what was going on back then publicly.

I know, I was itching for an excuse to use the word "pwned" and that was all I could find.

 

[Iscariot]

I am not a prude by no means but what is wrong with being proud of this?

The problem isn't that you are proud of it, it's the attitude of superiority that comes with pride. Example:

So the real message here is be loose and immoral?

(and until only recently - last 50 years or so - it was the common vagrant classes that slept around so freely). Morals have only declined since the 20th century and more so than ever since the 60s.

The fact that one possesses strong enough will power to avoid casual sex doesn't make them a prude, doesn't make them any less 'good' a person. It simply means you've got a higher standard you live by. It means you have virtue, not a meaningless set of 'personal values.'

The point is, do what you want - I'm not trying to define your morals for you - but morals have gone downhill in the 50-100 years. Period. I respect that you define morality differently, but whether or not the viewpoint is correct is a matter of debate. Period.

As a matter of fact Melrose, the last fifty to sixty years has seen the greatest increase in standards of living, education and medicine around the globe. I would say an increase in sharing medicine, food, and technology and a decrease in murder, theft and war would mean that "morals" have actually improved significantly. You claim you're not trying to define "your morals for you" but you are drawing a very clear picture of what morals are, and how the rest of us who don't follow your strict definition are immoral. 50-100 years ago blacks weren't allowed to vote and were routinely lynched, women had fewer rights, we had two world wars that killed close to a hundred million people, and yet we're all less moral now because we have more sex?

I made a plea earlier for people to stop politicizing this thread and start respecting other peoples rights and choices. Now I direct that at you, Melrose. You are attempting to belittle everyone who has made a different choice than you.

 

[2nyRiggz]

I don't see anything wrong with this thread given we've had a thread on a MacBook Pro damaged by female juices recently.

I'm glad I missed that thread and ewww....


Bless

 

[jaikob]

I was 18, nearly 19, with my one and only partner. I am not ashamed to admit that I wasn't prepared for the emotional roller coaster that sex introduced. She and I are 24 and will get married when school finally ends for both of us.

Good for you! I am way younger than you, but me and my Girlfriend, plan on doing the same thing. It will be our 4 year anniversary soon, and we plan on staying together. she was my first GF, and I was her first BF

PS to All: Why So Serious?

Had to be Said.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Good for you! I am way younger than you, but me and my Girlfriend, plan on doing the same thing. It will be our 4 year anniversary soon, and we plan on staying together. she was my first GF, and I was her first BF

PS to All: Why So Serious?

Had to be Said.

PS: Everyone needs to stop quoting that movie!!!

 

[kabunaru]

I am an male and never lost my virginity.

 

[pseudobrit]

I see. And that means the reason you know I'm wrong is that you've been around for the last three thousand years and know differently? I'm sorry, but simply changing the subject by suggesting I'm not a student of history doesn't really prove anyone's viewpoint.

If you don't know history you don't have perspective, you have a single point in time and no references to where you are or how you got there.

You have this notion that things were different in the past that has no basis in history. For thousands of years there were countless civilizations who were much more open and tolerant of sexual promiscuity than the United States is today and your assertions to the contrary show a completely inaccurate grasp of the history of sexuality.

Today's prudishness is a relatively recent phenomenon. Even the Old Testament contains erotic chapters.

How do you think the human population got to where it is? Whole lotta shakin' goin' on.

 

[jaikob]

PS: Everyone needs to stop quoting that movie!!!

Would you like to see a magic trick?

 

[mixmacface]

i'm 19, 20 in october. . plan to wait until marriage. i'm saving myself for wild, passionate, awkward, honeymoon sex. it's going to be grrreat. ha!

Would you like to see a magic trick?

+1

 

[SkyBell]

Haven't yet, don't plan to for, at the very least, another two or three years.

 

[McGarvels]

50-100 years ago blacks weren't allowed to vote and were routinely lynched, women had fewer rights, we had two world wars that killed close to a hundred million people, and yet we're all less moral now because we have more sex?

I made a plea earlier for people to stop politicizing this thread and start respecting other peoples rights and choices. Now I direct that at you, Melrose. You are attempting to belittle everyone who has made a different choice than you.

You are my hero

 

[Plymouthbreezer]

Heh, interesting thread.

Anyway, I think it's unfortunate that so many young - like 14-15 - yearolds are having sex, now-a-days more than ever. At that age, can one really know what sex... well, what sex actually means? I think not.