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With the price of memory now it is unlikely Apple will ship with more. The 2009 models were actually the first to ship without the minimum amount of RAM required (1 DIMM). Not sure they will come with a 1TB drive standard, maybe a bump to 750. For the graphics card I guess it depends what you consider a reasonable price, but I'm sure if the 5870 isn't the option (unlikely) it'll be a 3rd party upgrade.

They have to up it from 3gb at least, The imacs have 4gb already!
 
If they were to up the minimum RAM, 6 GB would be the only amount they could use while still keeping profit margins and the abilty to advertise triple-channel.

6 was the best i was expecting really, my expectations of apple are quite low these days.
 
6 was the best i was expecting really, my expectations of apple are quite low these days.

They are going to have to boost all of the minimum specs to exceed the i5 iMac's, if they don't want to purposely cannibalize sales. This means not only a CPU upgrade (obviously), but a boost in RAM, possibly HDD and a graphics card that isn't on par with the power of a saltine. :rolleyes:
 
Here are some bets for specs: All dual socket, either 8 core or 12 core. No idea if they will do seperate 8 and 12 core models, or have one progression of CPus (ie, at some point on the BTO ladder, you start getting hex-cores instead of quads)

Xeon chip prices would really have to drop, for a 8 core to be standard. A Xeon X5570 Nehalem 2.93GHz is still $1,400 on New Egg.
 
Xeon chip prices would really have to drop, for a 8 core to be standard. A Xeon X5570 Nehalem 2.93GHz is still $1,400 on New Egg.

I'm guessing they will revert back to the 2008 solution, upping the base price to ~$2,800 on a dual socket machine. I'm not sure what Xeon chips they will use to make that happen, but I'm hoping they don't castrate single threaded performance by using the 2.26 GHz model.
 
what do you think is going to get axed this revision?
Apple seems to be doing this new trend of cutting or limiting it's pro products, especially base models, with every new revision released.
So what's next?
No firewire standard?
Only 2 hard drive slots on base model?
No High end gpu options(ie 5770 & lower only)?

I would rather eat my words on this one and it not be the case, but as of right now I'm willing to bet that they will pull something like this again.

Sounds like the mini tower so many people have wanted, wouldn't be so bad if it was about $1600.
 
Does anybody know where I can find some comparisons/test between radeon 4xxx- and 5xxx-series cards? I would be interested to see a shootout between a radeon 4870/4890 and a mid-range radeon 5770 for example. Thanks!
 
Yeah, they'll up the base config to 6GB, in the process upping the price by $300 :p
Very likey indeed. :eek: :D To keep prices at a more acceptable level, there's a good chance that the base memory will remain the same as the '09's (3GB for SP systems, 6GB for DP systems; 1x 1GB stick per channel per CPU).
 
Very likey indeed. :eek: :D To keep prices at a more acceptable level, there's a good chance that the base memory will remain the same as the '09's (3GB for SP systems, 6GB for DP systems; 1x 1GB stick per channel per CPU).

And another thing, I shouldn't have to pay a premium to get my 8 RAM slots! The past Mac Pros have done it, and we all know that the IMC of each CPU supports 6 modules. There is no excuse. :mad:
 
If Microsoft ever make an OS as good as OSX then i think id switch, just for the hardware choices.
 
And another thing, I shouldn't have to pay a premium to get my 8 RAM slots! The past Mac Pros have done it, and we all know that the IMC of each CPU supports 6 modules. There is no excuse. :mad:
Actually, they can handle 9 (3x slots per channel). :eek: :D But it's only shown up on a few DP server boards, as the larger form factor has the physical space to accomodate them (I've seen E-ATX; SSI EEB or SSI MEB would also be able to as well). So 6x are more realistic as they can be fit to smaller boards (ATX or SSI CEB).

If Microsoft ever make an OS as good as OSX then i think id switch, just for the hardware choices.
Have you tried Windows 7?
You might find yourself quite surprised.
 
If Microsoft ever make an OS as good as OSX then i think id switch, just for the hardware choices.

Yea, same here. I've used Windows 7 for a few weeks and just don't like it. It is ugly and clunky, though it feels faster to me than OS X does on the same hardware. I don't mind running it alongside OS X to take advantage of software and games not available for the Mac, but not as a replacement.

I have the 27" iMac now but I'm so sick of the problems that I'm going to sell it as soon as I can decide what to move to next. I also can't stand the high resolution and am ready to go back to a 24" screen. I'm kind of in a holding pattern now until the next update. I really don't need the power of the Mac Pro but since Apple eliminated the 24" iMac I don't really have a choice unless I want to switch to Windows, which I don't want to do.
 
Yea, same here. I've used Windows 7 for a few weeks and just don't like it. It is ugly and clunky, though it feels faster to me than OS X does on the same hardware. I don't mind running it alongside OS X to take advantage of software and games not available for the Mac, but not as a replacement.

I have the 27" iMac now but I'm so sick of the problems that I'm going to sell it as soon as I can decide what to move to next. I also can't stand the high resolution and am ready to go back to a 24" screen. I'm kind of in a holding pattern now until the next update. I really don't need the power of the Mac Pro but since Apple eliminated the 24" iMac I don't really have a choice unless I want to switch to Windows, which I don't want to do.
Both come down to familiarity though (preference), and is an aspect that a user must determine for themselves.

For example, I'm more familiar with Windows and Linux than OS X (my Linux familiarity helps with OS X, but it's still not the same). So I end up having to hunt for things under OS X, nor am I nearly as familiar with the available software compared to Windows (Linux is something else all together, as there's little commercial software available comparitively speaking, but it does exist).

It seems such a situation is easily reversed (OS X feels more familiar/intuitive than another OS, as that's where the majority of a user's experience lies).
 
so is march 16 the rumored release date? or the week before?

March 16th is the expected date for the launch the processors by Intel. That is all we know as far as dates go and Intel haven't confirmed it. New Mac Pros could be announced as early as this Tuesday but in the past it has been as many as 8 weeks afterwards.
 
My guess:

3 processors standard, high end has 9 (but costs $6,000), holds 8GB RAM max (except for aforementioned high-end), comes with UEFI and a warning from Apple saying EFI32/64 wont be supported in 2011.

color me jaded
 
Seeing what apple charged for the last updated mac pro's, I think the price will go even higher. Seems we are being pushed to the consumer stuff for cloud base services. It was stated a few years back that the desktop computer will die out within 10 years and will be totally different than what we see today. What better way than to price it out of most peoples reach. :eek:
 
Will today be the day?!

Or will I have to spend further nail-biting Tuesdays endlessly refreshing Macrumors/Twitter and the Apple Store?
 
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