When it comes to bigger phones, y'all hating have no idea what you're talking about

Black Magic said:
You want a bigger iPhone and many others are happy with the current size. In your mind, you believe it's just so simple to release a larger size phone year after year but you don't understand all the dynamics and issues this brings.

1. Look at Android App issues for a better understanding. So many different sizes and form factors that you have App fragmentation. Tablet apps on Android are even worse.

2. Screen resolution and display quality. If they change resolution then we are dealing with issue #1 which will be a pain for developers. If they don't then the display would suck more than likely because you are stretching apps to fit screen.

3. Current sales are very good and easily outpace phones with larger screens. Basically, they don't have a lot of pressure from customers to do so at this time so they probably won't for 2 more years.

I like the current size and it feels comfortable in my hand and pocket. I have a Galaxy S3 as well and it doesn't feel comfy at all. It's large and you have to use it 2 handed for mostly everything.

I don't want Apple following the competition shotgunning all types of sizes/form factors out there sacrificing quality to satisfy a small minority of consumers. If they can do it without sacrificing quality then it's cool. I want it as easy as possible for developers to get me the best apps possible.

These are just my thoughts.
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Exactly. Very well said.
 
I've used the 4.3" Galaxy S2 and 4.8" Galaxy S3 and found them both easy to use and the larger screens were nice.

I also like the 4" iPhone 5.. so yeah, I'm easily pleased.

I'd most likely go for a bigger screened iPhone if available.
 
Kurso said:
Do you want a bigger phone or a bigger screen. They can give us a slightly bigger screen by going edge to edge without making the phone bigger.
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This is what i'm looking for, just increase the screen size but keep the same form factor and i'm good. Just my $.02 though
 
acfusion29 said:
You have to realize one thing: Apple is trying to make as much money as possible.

By NOT making a bigger iPhone, they are losing potential customers.
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Apple is about making money, but not at the expense of the user experience. And the larger screens may provide less than an optimal one-handed experience. If you want a larger screen, there are lots of phones out there that will meet your needs. But if you want a 5" screen, you don't want an iPhone.
 
smh at some of the responses.

what is wrong with options? you people act like apple can do no wrong.

unfortunately, no releasing a bigger iPhone is hurting apple more than you think. there are a LOT of people that want a bigger phone but have to settle for an android device.

just wait till next year.. i'll laugh at all you people who claim 4" is perfect and go ahead and buy a bigger phone.

also, who said that we would be sacrificing quality of the OS or phone by putting a bigger screen in there? obviously apple would do their homework.

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Black Magic said:
You want a bigger iPhone and many others are happy with the current size. In your mind, you believe it's just so simple to release a larger size phone year after year but you don't understand all the dynamics and issues this brings.

1. Look at Android App issues for a better understanding. So many different sizes and form factors that you have App fragmentation. Tablet apps on Android are even worse.

2. Screen resolution and display quality. If they change resolution then we are dealing with issue #1 which will be a pain for developers. If they don't then the display would suck more than likely because you are stretching apps to fit screen.

3. Current sales are very good and easily outpace phones with larger screens. Basically, they don't have a lot of pressure from customers to do so at this time so they probably won't for 2 more years.

I like the current size and it feels comfortable in my hand and pocket. I have a Galaxy S3 as well and it doesn't feel comfy at all. It's large and you have to use it 2 handed for mostly everything.

I don't want Apple following the competition shotgunning all types of sizes/form factors out there sacrificing quality to satisfy a small minority of consumers. If they can do it without sacrificing quality then it's cool. I want it as easy as possible for developers to get me the best apps possible.

These are just my thoughts.
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1. the quality of apps has to do more so that developers don't put much effort into those apps. i'm sure there wouldn't be a problem if apple told developers to make sure their apps work on all devices.

2. do apps get stretched on my mac? no. why? because of the way they're coded. how about apple releases a tool for developers to properly recode their apps so they fit to the resolution of those screens. 1 code fits all kind of thing.

3. so because current sales are good then we shouldn't experiment with a larger screen? the reason they don't have a lot of pressure is because most of their fans (including you and everyone on this sub-forum) believes apple can do no wrong. whatever apple releases is what is the best and you refuse to look at another product.

then a larger device comes along in 2014 and you sing a new tune. why? because finally apple did it, THEREFORE IT'S GREAT!!!!!!!11111!!

just because something works for YOU, doesn't mean it works for ME (or the millions of people using a bigger screen). were you also opposed to a bigger/smaller laptop than a regular 15" one back in the day?

and maybe you were less fortunate in the hands department, but my hands are too big for the iPhone. the S4 fits comfortably in my hands and they aren't even that big. and no, i'm not gonna go buy an s4. how bout apple releases a 5" phone and you go buy an HTC one mini.
 
Macinva said:
I agree. Some folks seem to think that THEIR opinion is the only one that matters and if they don't want a larger screen, then no one should.

I personally want a 5" iPhone.
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Applies the other way around more actually...

I used the note for a month... And was extremely happy to get rid of it...

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acfusion29 said:
but have to settle for an android device.

just wait till next year.. i'll laugh at all you people who claim 4" is perfect and go ahead and buy a bigger phone.

also, who said that we would be sacrificing quality of the OS or phone by putting a bigger screen in there? obviously apple would do their homework.
and maybe you were less fortunate in the hands department, but my hands are too big for the iPhone. the S4 fits comfortably in my hands and they aren't even that big. and no, i'm not gonna go buy an s4. how bout apple releases a 5" phone and you go buy an HTC one mini.
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I'm 6'3" with large hands... I found the S4 uncomfortable... You still wanna go harping good for you... Maybe you should just be happy with the S4 and stop trolling iPhone forums...
 
But the current screen is so tiny... I can hardly read anything on it. It is such a pain for my eyes

I wish I could phone with an iPad mini!
 
acfusion29 said:
You have to realize one thing: Apple is trying to make as much money as possible.

By NOT making a bigger iPhone, they are losing potential customers.

I can guarantee next year we will have a bigger iPhone and all the people crying that they don't want one will have to settle for a poverty screen in the 6C.

Or.. "I did a 180. Now that apple released a bigger phone, I want it. Before only androids had bigger phones but I'm obsessed with apple so they can do no wrong. If they tell me to buy a bigger phone I will!!!!!1111!!1!1!1!1!!!!"
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You right about apple followers but you aren't right about everyone wanting a bigger phone. I've come from a 4.7" and like the smaller phone, it's a sigh of relief and would prefer if apple went smaller by minimising the bezel or going 4.3 by keeping same current height...

But I don't want anything bigger for now...

I only look at the same portion of screen on both phones anyway ... Rest of the screen space is not used IMO
 
acfusion29 said:
smh at some of the responses.

what is wrong with options? you people act like apple can do no wrong.

unfortunately, no releasing a bigger iPhone is hurting apple more than you think. there are a LOT of people that want a bigger phone but have to settle for an android device.

just wait till next year.. i'll laugh at all you people who claim 4" is perfect and go ahead and buy a bigger phone.

also, who said that we would be sacrificing quality of the OS or phone by putting a bigger screen in there? obviously apple would do their homework.

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1. the quality of apps has to do more so that developers don't put much effort into those apps. i'm sure there wouldn't be a problem if apple told developers to make sure their apps work on all devices.

2. do apps get stretched on my mac? no. why? because of the way they're coded. how about apple releases a tool for developers to properly recode their apps so they fit to the resolution of those screens. 1 code fits all kind of thing.

3. so because current sales are good then we shouldn't experiment with a larger screen? the reason they don't have a lot of pressure is because most of their fans (including you and everyone on this sub-forum) believes apple can do no wrong. whatever apple releases is what is the best and you refuse to look at another product.

then a larger device comes along in 2014 and you sing a new tune. why? because finally apple did it, THEREFORE IT'S GREAT!!!!!!!11111!!

just because something works for YOU, doesn't mean it works for ME (or the millions of people using a bigger screen). were you also opposed to a bigger/smaller laptop than a regular 15" one back in the day?

and maybe you were less fortunate in the hands department, but my hands are too big for the iPhone. the S4 fits comfortably in my hands and they aren't even that big. and no, i'm not gonna go buy an s4. how bout apple releases a 5" phone and you go buy an HTC one mini.
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I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest with you. I don't think anyone in this thread or sub-forum stated Apple can do no wrong, but since you are having a tantrum because others have opinions that differ from you, now we get this. Let's address your replies real quick:

1. Seriously? I'm sure Google asked developers nicely too and included "pretty please with sugar on top".

2. I'm sure Google has tried their best to get some great tools out there to address the problem since they are really feeling it and still no luck.

3. Noone said any of that mess. You are twisting posts to manufacture an argument.

I have my opinion/thoughts which I stated above and in previous posts. I'm sticking to them. I'm happy with Apple current products and they will continue to get my money. You have your thoughts and you need to do whatever you feel best works for you.

I'm sure a larger iPhone will come in the future. Wasn't there a rumor about the iPhone Math or iPhone+? Relax.
 
j4zb4 said:
Applies the other way around more actually...

I used the note for a month... And was extremely happy to get rid of it...

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I'm 6'3" with large hands... I found the S4 uncomfortable... You still wanna go harping good for you... Maybe you should just be happy with the S4 and stop trolling iPhone forums...
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so i'm trolling cause i have an opinion?

typical fanboy response..
 
If they offer options, I'd like 3", 4" and 5" or something similar. I'd buy the smallest one but everyone else could get the size they prefer. Seems better to offer options. Though I realize it's related to app development and fragmentation.
 
I doubt that the next iPhone will be 5" inch big. That's a 1" jump. I see more like 4.5" but that should have been last year or even this year. The point is that Android flagships are sitting nice at 5" and phablets are 5.5" to 6.5" with DPI's over 400. And Apple is being super careful because if you make the iPhone too big you start to cannibalize the iPad mini. No different than than the iPad mini cannibalizing the 9.7" iPad.
I believe that Apple will eventually catch up to screen size and Android phones will stop growing because ultimately are hands are not getting any better. But what I do see happening is increased innovation from within Android. Apple's slow response to the market will leave them further behind. You have too many flagships being release to often. Minor yearly updates will not cut it.
 
acfusion29 said:
2. do apps get stretched on my mac? no. why? because of the way they're coded. how about apple releases a tool for developers to properly recode their apps so they fit to the resolution of those screens. 1 code fits all kind of thing.
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iOS does have this starting with iOS 6, it's called auto layout. Just google "ios auto layout". Apple has been pushing hard on developers to switch to auto layout as much as possible for supporting iphone 4 vs 5 screens and even ipads (though apps usually re-design their UI for the ipad). It seems pretty obvious to me that Apple wanted a long lead-in for auto layout in anticipation of supporting additional future phone sizes.

I too am jonesing hard for a bigger iphone but will wait one more year. It's next year or bust. :)
 
I don't understand why people are so concerned about what developers have to change to make it fit to a new larger screen size. Isn't that what the 5s is doing with a 64-bit chip. Developers are now having to build their apps to a new chip standard. Didn't the app for the Iphone 5 have to be slightly adjusted to fit the longer screen. How about the jump to retina displays? How many apps had to be recoded?

Apple can do wrong and by not providing a larger screen they are losing a segment of the market. There is a lot of room for apple to make a device that fits between 4" and phablet size. Like it or not but it has to eventually happen and developers will adjust accordingly if there is money to be made in the app store. If the 5c would of been scrapped for a larger screen there wouldn't of been a question of apple's ability to innovate.
 
acfusion29 said:
so i'm trolling cause i have an opinion?

typical fanboy response..
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It's trolling because you seem to think your opinion is the best and it should be applied and you imply apple is useless and a fail because it isn't working according to your opinion and you feel your opinion is the general opinion of the public... Well good morning... It's not...

Typical fanboy...? You seem to be a typical troll though... Most sane people with a life don't go to forums for phones and companies they dislike and keep ranting about why they dislike and try to create a ruckus for no reason... This topic has been discussed to death but you'll still wanna beat the broken drum... That's trolling...
 
Macinva said:
I agree. Some folks seem to think that THEIR opinion is the only one that matters and if they don't want a larger screen, then no one should.

I personally want a 5" iPhone.
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Actually no, Apples opinion is what matters.... If you want a 5" phone go get an android. If you want a 5" iPhone, too bad... Apparently more people don't want it than those who do at the moment.
 
Impuls3101 said:
I don't understand why people are so concerned about what developers have to change to make it fit to a new larger screen size. Isn't that what the 5s is doing with a 64-bit chip. Developers are now having to build their apps to a new chip standard.
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No, they actually don't. 64 bit runs 32 bit code just fine. Otherwise the 5s would comparatively have no apps at launch.
 
Swype over a larger screen

Apple is a dead utility stock if it is only targeting replacement stock of existing iPhone users. If it is to grow market share it has to attract Android users with bigger screens to dump their larger screen phones and go for an iPhone. For me, the switch from a Samsung Galaxy S2 to an iPhone 5S will require it to have a swype feature that allows me on an Android device to type rapidly with one thumb and one hand operation. When I am on a MacBook Air I can do that fast. I can also type a bit faster on my iPad mini. But when it comes to an iPhone the current input method does not meet my needs. For me, I can easily live with the smaller screen, but I can not live with a huge drop in my e-mail response rate due to the slow input method of an iPhone.
 
GoSh4rks said:
No, they actually don't. 64 bit runs 32 bit code just fine. Otherwise the 5s would comparatively have no apps at launch.
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I understand that my point was more that developers would have to build the apps in 64 bit to take full advantage of the iPhone 5s's hardware. Which is a form of fragmentation because now you need a 32/64 bit version of that software or game.
 
Just last month, everyday we were getting, if the next iPhone doesn't have a bigger screen, Apple is Doomed, Doomed! So now next year is it, because of the following justifications... Okay man, I am ready for another 12 months of, This is Why Apple Will Make a Big Screen posts -> Filter.

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acfusion29 said:
By NOT making a bigger iPhone, they are losing potential customers.
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Yeah man, a billion Chinese new customers if they sold a cheaper 5c.
 
jimbo1mcm said:
I dumped my Iphone 5 for the larger 1080p Galaxy S4. Guess what? I'm dumping the Galaxy S4 to go back to the Iphone 5S. Yeah, a bigger screen is nice IF you watch a lot of videos, but if you analzye your usage and you use the phone mainly for calls, emails and texts, a bigger screen isn't really necessary. The IOS of Apple is pretty good and I don't have to jump through hoops to get all my Itunes on my phone. S4 was nice, but goodbye Samsung.
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Welcome home. :apple: I'm seeing more and more Samsung switchers coming back to the iPhone having now come to realise why Apple does what Apple does.
 
acfusion29 said:
You have to realize one thing: Apple is trying to make as much money as possible.

By NOT making a bigger iPhone, they are losing potential customers.

I can guarantee next year we will have a bigger iPhone and all the people crying that they don't want one will have to settle for a poverty screen in the 6C.

Or.. "I did a 180. Now that apple released a bigger phone, I want it. Before only androids had bigger phones but I'm obsessed with apple so they can do no wrong. If they tell me to buy a bigger phone I will!!!!!1111!!1!1!1!1!!!!"
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Get a OB Armor, problem solved:)

I am getting a 5s now before the 6 is a big bugger, I want no bigger, ipad for everything else.
 
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