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very slim. probably not at all. I can say 99% sure that the 880m won't make it in as the 780m is actually better than it at many tasks since it is just a rebranded 780m with more ram. Many programs don't utilize the 880m's ram and even where it is faster in terms of FPS it is only by a few tenths per second. I still have the chance to return mine but if it is for the 880m I am not sure it would even be worth putting it all back in the box

Well I hope that doesn't stop them from going with the 850m/860m in the base models. I have no interest in the higher-end cards... you're absolutely right about them.
 
Why would they not update the GPU when they actually update the iMac. Doesnt make sense to keep a 1 year old card in favour of the latest....Even if they were EXACTLY the same.

if they really are trying for price drops right now, that would be why. the majority of people aren't like me and buy maxed out every time. also if it is a silent upgrade they don't have to upgrade the BTO's. I could see them upgrading the staring gnu's (which at that point they would do the 880m i suppose) we will see i guess.

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Well I hope that doesn't stop them from going with the 850m/860m in the base models. I have no interest in the higher-end cards... you're absolutely right about them.

like i posted above to the other guy, i could see them doing the base model upgrades to the 8xx's and if they do that I could see them doing it across the board..we will see next week i guess.
 
The newest technologies.
With fourth-generation Intel processors, the latest NVIDIA graphics, and fast 802.11ac Wi-Fi, the slimmest iMac yet is also the most powerful.

THAT'S what is says right now on Apple.com and it's false... until next week hopefully.
 
When to buy an iMac?

if they really are trying for price drops right now, that would be why. the majority of people aren't like me and buy maxed out every time. also if it is a silent upgrade they don't have to upgrade the BTO's. I could see them upgrading the staring gnu's (which at that point they would do the 880m i suppose) we will see i guess.

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like i posted above to the other guy, i could see them doing the base model upgrades to the 8xx's and if they do that I could see them doing it across the board..we will see next week i guess.


Maybe they keep it for the low end but it makes no sense at least adding the latest gpus to the bto options
 
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I can't think of an iMac refresh within the last four years where they did not update the GPU as well as the CPU, at least for the higher end machines.

2009: Radeon 4850
2010: Radeon 5850
2011: Radeon 6970m
2012: nVidia 680m
2013: nVidia 780m

I would be shocked if they did not have the option to upgrade to an 880m for the BTO option.
 
I can't think of an iMac refresh within the last four years where they did not update the GPU as well as the CPU, at least for the higher end machines.

2009: Radeon 4850
2010: Radeon 5850
2011: Radeon 6970m
2012: nVidia 680m
2013: nVidia 780m

I would be shocked if they did not have the option to upgrade to an 880m for the BTO option.

awesome contribution to this thread, I was unaware of that timeline. Till not sure if the 780-880 is worth lugging it back through the mail as almost all benchmarks show that the 880 gets less fps and where it is more, it is so minimal you won't even tell.

Now if you push more than one monitor I think it would be a benefit to you.

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also if they did release the 880 in an iMac next week, how long would it be till they are in stores or even shipping?
 
Or perhaps more pixels rather than more monitors

the 880m won't make much of a difference if they go to retina or 4k. if they did that with the current available GPUs that they could use it would actually hinder the overall GPU performance unless they find a way to fit two of them in there.
 
In another thread, someone posted that next week will be a speed bump and after Yosemite is released new hardware architecture will come.Truth or speculation I'll wait for this for my iMac.
Even I got the refurbish one, it's in excellent condition. I'm planning to keep it for my kids (saved ~$300 already, and we need it to keep them busy during the summer school break). Unless next week is really something worth the return.

Have any of you returned your Mac before and how soon did you get the replecement? At the local store? Shipped?
 
There is rumour that new iMacs to be released next week but maybe only a small speed bump.

Where has this rumor been posted (besides this thread, of course.)? What is the source? Any chance that it might be true?
 
Where has this rumor been posted (besides this thread, of course.)? What is the source? Any chance that it might be true?

it is true. was posted on all mac rumor sites.
the only uncertainty: will new mac minis arrive next week too?
 
Where has this rumor been posted (besides this thread, of course.)? What is the source? Any chance that it might be true?

A previous rumor during this past week. Source cited there:
https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/imac/

The chance is to wait until Tuesday next week and see if it's true or not, some speculate it could be announced or released without much fanfare on Friday...
 
The upgrades in the latest rumor report are so minor they barely count. We're talking a tenth of a GHz in processor speed gains only. I doubt this will even put a dent in current iMac resale values.

Buy Now if you need a new Mac. This "refresh" is bupkiss. :apple:
 
Why buy now if you could wait a few more days to get a computer that may just be a slightly faster, yes, but perhaps also a bit cheaper? I don't recommend to buy now.

Maximum one week guys, then we know :)

I think I'd be more interested in the late 2014/early 2015 iMac however, with the new hardware. I'm wondering how hard it would be to resell an iMac at the end of the year, if I bought it in a week. Probably quite a big price fall :(
 
Why buy now if you could wait a few more days to get a computer that may just be a slightly faster, yes, but perhaps also a bit cheaper? I don't recommend to buy now.

Maximum one week guys, then we know :)

I think I'd be more interested in the late 2014/early 2015 iMac however, with the new hardware. I'm wondering how hard it would be to resell an iMac at the end of the year, if I bought it in a week. Probably quite a big price fall :(

In my case I needed it for day 1 of my kids school summer break. It's great and I'm still within the 14 days return window so if what is released next week (who has any certainty?) makes it worth the return I still have that option.
But if you prefer the eternal wait to avoid a regret you will never buy it or you'll be waiting for many months for something that might not be released. If you have a Mac already it's a different situation than not having one.
 
Well yes, it's whatever you need it for :) I need maximal performance because I need the iMac for work. A lot of people buy their iMacs maxed out, but they don't really need it. They just buy them like that, for whatever reason. The next more powerful thing I could get would be a Mac Pro. Sadly, the entry-level Mac Pro has lower benchmark scores than the maxed out iMac, and costs much more (+ without screen etc.)

In my case it would be sad to buy an iMac now when maybe towards the end of the year another, more powerful one, comes out, for maybe even less than it is now. Every Mhz counts for me :)

If it's for kids playing, then no doubt it is the perfect computer for occupation :)
 
Why buy now if you could wait a few more days to get a computer that may just be a slightly faster, yes, but perhaps also a bit cheaper? I don't recommend to buy now.

Maximum one week guys, then we know :)

I think I'd be more interested in the late 2014/early 2015 iMac however, with the new hardware. I'm wondering how hard it would be to resell an iMac at the end of the year, if I bought it in a week. Probably quite a big price fall :(

So I too would wait just a few more days to get the latest and greatest Apple has to offer. If anything, it'll be good for resale to buy a "2014 iMac" vs "Late 2013 iMac".

That being said, if a new one arrives this week, you can pretty much kiss good-bye to another one being released this year. There's no way Apple would release one now, then another one within 6 months. Besides, if the other rumors hold true, a Retina iMac may be in the works and released mid-late 2015.

My advice, if all these rumor hold up. Buy a new iMac after this week after hearing if a new one get released or not. If you want to wait for redesign/retina, wait another year.

I'll grab one after this week. I just waiting to see if a refresh is getting pushed out this week. I could care less about retina on a iMac.
 
I could care less about Retina as well. I don't even do graphical work. But I hope for faster iMacs. Speed speed speed that's what I need! (cool rhyme hm?)

Also, I wouldn't say that if a Mac comes out now, there won't be another release in late 2014. This now will just be small update, whereas the late 2014 (or very very early 2015) iMac will be a complete new model, with new processors etc.
 
I ordered a built to order 21.5 inch iMac on June 5. I waited until just after WWDC to see if there was an announcement there.

When I submitted the order (for store delivery) I was given a delivery date of June 19. The length of time surprised me. Over the next several days my order status shifted from mostly "Preparing to Ship" back to "Processing". Then on friday I got an email that said my order had been delayed to the 24th, which the order status page reflected for about an hour. Then it was back to the 19th. Since being mostly "Preparing to Ship" for the first week, it has been back in "Processing" since last Thursday.

All this leads me to think the rumors of a release this week are true. Had my order been a standard stock order, delivery wouldn't have taken this long, but (I'm hoping) they are sending me the updated model given the timing, and they're very easy offer of dropping the price by $100 for the "inconvenience and confusion". Of course the phone guys know nothing about refreshes, but perhaps stars are aligning.
 
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All this leads me to think the rumors of a release this week are true. Had my order been a standard stock order, delivery wouldn't have taken this long, but (I'm hoping) they are sending me the updated model given the timing, and they're very easy offer of dropping the price by $100 for the "inconvenience and confusion". Of course the phone guys know nothing about refreshes, but perhaps stars are aligning.

My very first Apple computer that I bought, the 12" Powerbook G4 back in 2004, I bought 1 week before Apple released an updated model (I was new to Mac and didn't know about refreshes). After using my computer for a few weeks and realizing I had missed the update, I called Apple to see if they would take it back. They said they wouldn't return a BTO comp. Maybe their policy has changed by now, but I still don't get all these people that say "go ahead and buy now then return your comp next week if they update them". For me at least, upgrading computers is a huge deal and generally a good amount of work between re-installing programs, backing up old data, making sure I don't miss anything...(although Apple makes this significantly better than trying to do this is Windows with Time Machine and other simple to use programs). Why order a computer now, go through lots of work, then just have to do it again the next week? Just exercise patience and see if the dang update happens or not! I always buy mine Macs BTO, so maybe stock configs don't have to worry about the return policy thing.
 
My very first Apple computer that I bought, the 12" Powerbook G4 back in 2004, I bought 1 week before Apple released an updated model (I was new to Mac and didn't know about refreshes). After using my computer for a few weeks and realizing I had missed the update, I called Apple to see if they would take it back. They said they wouldn't return a BTO comp. Maybe their policy has changed by now, but I still don't get all these people that say "go ahead and buy now then return your comp next week if they update them". For me at least, upgrading computers is a huge deal and generally a good amount of work between re-installing programs, backing up old data, making sure I don't miss anything...(although Apple makes this significantly better than trying to do this is Windows with Time Machine and other simple to use programs). Why order a computer now, go through lots of work, then just have to do it again the next week? Just exercise patience and see if the dang update happens or not! I always buy mine Macs BTO, so maybe stock configs don't have to worry about the return policy thing.

I'm told by Apple that I have 14 days to return my BTO machine from the day I pick it up. That said, I placed the order prior to the rumor, and given the delivery date, and changes in manufacturing lines, I'm thinking they may just be sending me the updated version (if that pans out).
 
I'm told by Apple that I have 14 days to return my BTO machine from the day I pick it up. That said, I placed the order prior to the rumor, and given the delivery date, and changes in manufacturing lines, I'm thinking they may just be sending me the updated version (if that pans out).

If your current iMac is working properly, do you really want to exchange it for a new one and risk getting a new one with issues? For a tenth of a GHz speed bump? I could see doing that if the refresh was more significant, but not for this. I'm a big believer in "If it ain't broke don't fix it."
 
If your current iMac is working properly, do you really want to exchange it for a new one and risk getting a new one with issues? For a tenth of a GHz speed bump? I could see doing that if the refresh was more significant, but not for this. I'm a big believer in "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

I don't even have it yet, nor does the store, still "Processing". I may not even take it out of the box if a PR is released before I pick it up. It'll be a pain. And yes, if it is just .1ghz bump and nothing else, I likely wouldn't worry about it, but if it is a bump and a price drop. That I'm a little more concerned about.

And as I said, given manufacturing processes and the timing of delivery and these rumors, I wouldn't be surprised as it is BTO that they ship the updated iMac. Had it been stock, certainly not, but given a nearly 3 week order period for the addition of RAM and a fusion drive, something seems fishy.
 
If your current iMac is working properly, do you really want to exchange it for a new one and risk getting a new one with issues? For a tenth of a GHz speed bump? I could see doing that if the refresh was more significant, but not for this. I'm a big believer in "If it ain't broke don't fix it."


He bought it before the rumor about an update and is simply hoping the update will be done to the one he ordered. He didn't buy it with the intention of returning it after an update gets announced.
 
He bought it before the rumor about an update and is simply hoping the update will be done to the one he ordered. He didn't buy it with the intention of returning it after an update gets announced.

Thank you. Stated much more succinctly and eloquently that I had managed.
 
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