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You do realise that AppleCare doesn’t cover cosmetic damages such as these.
Exactly, I think Apple made them more durable in terms of still functioning and glass not breaking when dropped, but scratched and dents aren't and were never covered by AppleCare. This would reduce their own costs associated with AppleCare if they're replacing less glass and entire phones due to drops.
 
What are you talking about? they used the same unibody construction style the MacBook Pros have been using for like 2 decades and no one has complained about the durability of those machines..

Surely you realise that phones get dropped a thousand times more often than laptops do.

MacBook Pros are impressively built, but as someone already pointed out, they actually do get damaged quite easily when dropped.

Stainless steel and titanium iPhones on the other hand are remarkably durable. They're liable to dent the floor you dropped them on before they get dented themselves.
 
Ah man that sucks! I go caseless and I get the occasional battle scar which I don’t mind when it happens 6 months in but after a couple weeks would piss me off!

I agree I think they look way better caseless and if you’re careful it’s not an issue…. My caseless phones are in better condition than my wife and kids who are both in cases.
 
You are free now.
Exactly!
I remember I dropped my Xr just a week into buying it, also had it without a case. This phone was so slippery and aluminium like the 17 pro. Of course it dented on the first drop.
Once I had the battle scar though, no more pressure to keep it pretty.

Then I dropped it again a few days later and bought a case 😆
 
Decent advice, as long as you recognise that a case has never been required for OP before the 17 Pro, given those other Pros were of sufficient durability for them caseless, and this one isn’t.
same was for the iphone 5/5s/6/6s etc...they all get dents or scuffs depending if you have alum or stainless steel or titanium. If i know that i drop my phones...i learn from mistakes, and do something about it...the rest here is just seeking attention
lets not forget this ip 17 are more sctrach resistance than the prev phones
 
Apple's phones since the X have poorly designed bodies for being far too slippery. Personally, I think metal and glass body phones are stupid. My phone is a tool, not jewelry. Just make them out of high quality plastic. I never had to use a case with my Nexus 5 or Sony Xperia Compacts.

That said, Apple could design the phones to not be slippery. Texture like knurling could be added to the metal or glass that would make for better hand grip but still faciliate sliding the phone out of the pocket. But then they'd lose revenue from lost case sales and damage repair. It's worse than neglect - they profit from poor design.

This - profit - BTW is also IMO why they increase screen sizes every. damn. year. If they kept the screen size the same, the phones would look even more the same than they already do, which would make them appear less new and worthy of an upgrade. The point isn't for it to be obvious. It's for it to be incremental, so you notice the screen seems a little nicer without it registering that it's much bigger.

I prefer iPhones overall to Android, but IMO they are well designed for Apple profit - poorly designed for ease of carry and secure grip.
 
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same was for the iphone 5/5s/6/6s etc...they all get dents or scuffs depending if you have alum or stainless steel or titanium.

Well no, OP already stated the last phones he had didn’t get the same kind of damage from being dropped.

My girlfriend’s 13PM, 14PM and now 15PM hit the floor a couple times a week, never got a single dent or scuff.
 
All my other phones never reacted like this is the point hero. Pay attn
Well, when I dropped my 15 Pro the first time, with a case on, it landed in a way that the frame bent right where the top speaker is.
When you drop things, they may show deformations. That’s expected as @Thor_9 pointed out.

However, you never mentioned how any of your previous phones „reacted“ to being dropped from, probably, less than a meter and, probably, with a slowed down fall due to hitting the car frame or something else on the way down.
Also, what you show us here is a scuff, and not a dent.
Pay attention ;)
 
Are there any scientific-ish comparison articles/videos that show exactly how much more easily 17 Pro dents compared to Ti Pros? These anecdotes are too unscientific to be definitive.

Regardless, if Apple went with Ti, then people would be noting/complaining how heavy the 17 Pro is since it has also gotten thicker (which people apparently wanted for the larger battery), plus probably complaints about overheating/throttling. Apple can never please everybody.

I think aluminum has the most overall advantages, especially considering most people use cases. The only people who lose out are the ones who go caseless and don't push their phone's performance, which I think is a niche group.
 
Cases don't always help. My so-called better designed Titanium iPhone 15 Pro Max with an Apple clear MagSafe case on it shattered most of the rear glass when I dropped it taking it out of my pocket in the parking lot at work. It hit the ground just right on the corner and cracked at least half the back glass from the impact point all the way to the other end of the back of the phone by the cameras. It's the first time I have ever cracked the glass of an iPhone front or back in all the many years of iPhone generations I have owned. I use a case always when out of the house on my 17 Pro Max for the extra protection, but I do sometimes remove it at home so I can see and feel all of the actual phone and not just a lot of phone case.
 
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Apple's phones since the X have poorly designed bodies for being far too slippery. Personally, I think metal and glass body phones are stupid. My phone is a tool, not jewelry. Just make them out of high quality plastic. I never had to use a case with my Nexus 5 or Sony Xperia Compacts.

That said, Apple could design the phones to not be slippery. Texture like knurling could be added to the metal or glass that would make for better hand grip but still faciliate sliding the phone out of the pocket. But then they'd lose revenue from lost case sales and damage repair. It's worse than neglect - they profit from poor design.

This - profit - BTW is also IMO why they increase screen sizes every. damn. year. If they kept the screen size the same, the phones would look even more the same than they already do, which would make them appear less new and worthy of an upgrade. The point isn't for it to be obvious. It's for it to be incremental, so you notice the screen seems a little nicer without it registering that it's much bigger.

I prefer iPhones overall to Android, but IMO they are well designed for Apple profit - poorly designed for ease of carry and secure grip.
I agree phones these days are not designed with ergonomics in mind, and I too prefer ergonomics over "premium" slick pieces of jewelry. But I disagree that it's just a conspiracy to make people drop their phones. I'm sure phone manufacturers don't mind the extra money, but I think most people actually do prioritize their phones looking and feeling "premium" over ergonomics, and phone manufacturers oblige. People are not practical.
 
Decent advice, as long as you recognise that a case has never been required for OP before the 17 Pro, given those other Pros were of sufficient durability for them caseless, and this one isn’t.

I’ve had steel iPhones and titanium iPhones. If you wanted them pristine after dropping them on concrete, yeah, you needed a case.
 
It's not rocket science, it's material science. The way Apple have built the Pro phones this year mean they're far less durable than before.

You have a strange (wrong) definition of durable. The phone the OP dropped still works flawlessly. The damage is purely cosmetic.

Btw at least wrt to the back of the phone, the new ones are certainly more durable than all iPhones Pro before because the back is not completely made of glass anymore. Front is probably more durable as well because of the new Ceramic Shield version.
 
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You have a strange (wrong) definition of durable. The phone the OP dropped still works flawlessly. The damage is purely cosmetic.

Pretty sure most people consider a phone that gets damaged more under the same conditions to be less durable.

I never said the phone doesn't work or that it's the end of the world. But my definition of durable is just fine.
 
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