iPhone 17 Pro Max Where are my dented or scuffed 17 pro/pro Max peeps at?

[teh_hunterer]

It‘s you who‘s trying (and failing) to do that.

A lot of people have tried to explain to you that the aluminum unibody will very, very probably be more durable than the glass sandwich we had before in the real sense of durable, meaning the phone will still work. You‘re just super hung up on how the phone looks.

Italicise as many words as you like, the fact remains that aluminium as a material is less durable than titanium and stainless steel, and will result in these new phones showing wear and tear much more easily and much sooner than the previous Pro phones.

Now that Apple released aluminium phones, you're clearly just moving the goalposts from being reasonably resistant to wear and tear, to purely just whether the phone works or not.

If you want to make the point that an outer shell that breaks apart more easily might result in less impact going into the glass, at least that's an honest argument. I don't think it's a good design anyway because the previous stainless steel and titanium phones were still fine in that aspect, and the glass is stronger this year anyway, but I get why you would make that point.

But when you start moving goalposts and redefining words that just makes me laugh.

 

[Octavius8]

It is just a consumer product swapped after a 2 or 3 years usually. When we get a new one, we never look back to our old iPhones saying “so glad it is in mint condition”.
It is not a jewelry. Is more like daily usage shoe.

 

[maka344]

You answered your own question.
But a case, at least a thin one to prevent dents like these, would be appropriate.

But people are seeing dents on the Pro’s from being dropped in Apple’s own silicon and TexhWoven cases.

 

[Fred Zed]

But people are seeing dents on the Pro’s from being dropped in Apple’s own silicon and TexhWoven cases.

Pretty embarrassing really that they didn’t test / gauge the iPhone durability with their own case brands.

 

[ps4db]

I do I am an avid user of said plan lol. Well aware of what is covered and what isn't. A small dent on my phone isn't that worrisome

I don’t have AppleCare but even if I did, I would rather not end up being an “avid” user of it.

It’s like medical or health insurance : good to have but preferably never have to use. Lol.

 

[Parowdy]

As exhibited multiple times, a thin case won’t help prevent deformation of the aluminum very well. You’ll need a thicker, more padded case to accomplish that.

Yeah I know, from experience. Even a thick silicon case has failed me before. But the new Pro‘s are almost as thick as my 15 Pro with its case on.
And when OP says themselves that they drop their phones regularly but don’t want a real case, maybe they’d be willing to compromise.
Everything is more protective than nothing.

 

[Parowdy]

But people are seeing dents on the Pro’s from being dropped in Apple’s own silicon and TexhWoven cases.

Ok, so? Because some people drop their phones and sometimes their cases don’t protect them from everything you might just as well not use a case at all? Sorry but what are you trying to tell me? That cases aren’t perfect? That expensive brand cases aren’t necessarily better than cheap and affordable ones? That Apples own cases don’t perform as they should for the money?

 

[Parowdy]

For sure. I hate cases. I understand the risk and have paid for screen replacements and back replacements thru AppleCare. The phone is so much better without a case, with that being said these phones are way softer than any of the past ones.

They aren’t softer. The aluminum is at least on par with last years 16 and definitely not the same as in the iPhone 6.
I think that it just seems this way as 1. it’s the first flagship iPhone made out of aluminium since the 7 and 2. its heavy. Just as heavy as the stainless steel 14 Pro and 13 Pro have been.
I agree though that iPhones don’t really belong in cases. I raw sow my 15 Pro at home but not in the wild. Maybe if I had AppleCare+ like you.
But for me the case is often an integral part of the experience, like being able to put my phone on somewhere and in an angle where it would usually slip right off. I’m even considering one of these MagSafe/Pop up stand cases because they are pretty useful.
Just mostly ugly.
So yeah, I get you.

 

[Parowdy]

Exactly, I think Apple made them more durable in terms of still functioning and glass not breaking when dropped, but scratched and dents aren't and were never covered by AppleCare. This would reduce their own costs associated with AppleCare if they're replacing less glass and entire phones due to drops.

fun fact. Scratches and scuffs not only aren’t covered by AC+, they usually aren’t reasons to not service a device either.
I actually took 2000 grid sandpaper to my X screen back in the day because the screen was very scratched anyway and I wanted some uniformity, also the reflections on that screen were very annoying in my then workplace. Had a „nano texture“ screen before it was a thing and actually liked it. It also felt much „smoother“ than the original screen.
Eventually the device malfunctioned for unrelated reasons and I had it replaced no problem.
I had some photos of the phone but I apparently don’t anymore, but apart from the notch it was entirely matte.
I also once took 60-100 grid sandpaper to the edges of my 2017 MacBook Pro (not the top or bottom, but the entire outer edge) because I couldn’t live with it being perfect except for one spot that was really dented and scuffed after a drop. Had the top case replaced for the butterfly keyboard half a year later no problem.
I also also did the same to a used Apple Watch I bought, that had a couple small chips, and I didn’t like the dark blue around the screen that much (wanted to actually see the reduced bezel width) and had that one replaced earlier this year for the battery. No questions asked either. I had a better picture but the one I found has to suffice.

I’m actually contemplating to do this again, just around the entire watch, which is difficult with the crown.

 

[maka344]

Ok, so? Because some people drop their phones and sometimes their cases don’t protect them from everything you might just as well not use a case at all? Sorry but what are you trying to tell me? That cases aren’t perfect? That expensive brand cases aren’t necessarily better than cheap and affordable ones? That Apples own cases don’t perform as they should for the money?

My point is, people are saying to get a case if you don’t want dents, but clearly you can still get dents, even in Apple’s own cases. This just points to how poor the Ai is as a finish on a this years Pro line.

 

[matzoek]

These discussions are really putting a dent in some relationships on here.

 

[GuruZac]

Hate to see that. This is the first time in a long time where I won’t be rocking my phone without a case. I’ve gone with the Caudabe Sheath. Just not gonna take a chance, especially with Deep Blue which seems to show the most damage and scratches.

 

[ThailandToo]

All my other phones never reacted like this is the point hero. Pay attn

This was my point when Apple switched to aluminum from titanium. Everyone here will defend Apple even though it’s a terrible phone material for the external rails.

 

[ThailandToo]

1) if someone dropped their MacBook pros 3 feet onto concrete their problem will be more than a slight scratch.
2) not unibody constructions are the same even if they have the same name, the lap tops are thicker.

Yeah. People aren’t carrying around their laptops nearly as frequently as an iPhone.

 

[G5isAlive]

People suddenly trying to nitpick the definition of "durable" now that Apple has released aluminium Pro iPhones are just trying to obfuscate.

And now we're redefining the term "damage"?

Just accept that aluminium is less durable than titanium - it's plain to see. Just admit it, guys. If you want to say that you don't care because you use a case, or you don't care about superficial damage, or that it's worth the tradeoff for thermal performance, no worries. But you don't need to be saying "well it's not damage when the case of the phone starts chipping away".

Some people are surprised and annoyed that these aluminium Pro iPhones are more susceptible to the kind of damage OP showed than the last few years of Pro iPhones. We can't redefine our way of that fact.

You missed the point. Completely. anyone who has been following along is absolutely not surprised aluminum is softer than titanium. Duh. Just some of us are tired of the whining about cosmetics. The sky is not falling. Al won’t negatively impact the operation of the phone, in fact may improve it. Here’s another fact Al conducts hear better than Ti. Some people may judge a phone by how it feels or looks, some people buy a car solely on color, some of us think about getting the job done.

Clear? BTW definitions matter in communication.

 

[teh_hunterer]

You missed the point. Completely. anyone who has been following along is absolutely not surprised aluminum is softer than titanium. Duh. Just some of us are tired of the whining about cosmetics. The sky is not falling. Al won’t negatively impact the operation of the phone, in fact may improve it. Here’s another fact Al conducts hear better than Ti. Some people may judge a phone by how it feels or looks, some people buy a car solely on color, some of us think about getting the job done.

Clear? BTW definitions matter in communication.

The point is you can all talk about the benefits and drawbacks of the different materials without suddenly and sneakily trying to move the goalposts and definitions of words to suit the new material.

About titanium, I don't think it makes that much difference thermally. So little of the mass of the phone is actually titanium in the first place, so it's a small factor. An aluminium unibody with some titanium side rails, that vapour chamber, and the efficiency of a new chip, it would still be a great performer.