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Where do people get their facts from!?
- Thread starter superliu
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Ah, the oversimplifiers to win an argument. AREN'T THESE PEOPLE AWESOME? These are the types who will bash, say, football by saying it's a bunch of big men running up and down a field tossing a ball back and forth. Hell, I could do the same with any book ever written. It's just a bunch of letters printed in ink on paper. What's so interesting about that?
Thankfully most people I have run into -- in fact all of them I know of -- are merely curious about seeing one. The workers at places where you can pay with the watch are always impressed by that feature. I don't do it to impress them, but if it's entertainment for some people making less than $10/hour, I'm cool with that.
The whole device is slowly getting better as third parties learn what to do with it. Wink has just added Watch functionality to access shortcuts for controlling connected devices. My phone is still quicker if it's around because I have Wink on whatever you call the thing you pull down from the top. But if I don't have my phone, I almost always have my watch on. It's great for tracking steps, exercise and how often you stand, and the GPS feature is pretty nice if you don't have CarPlay -- which most of us don't.
Phone Junky
macrumors 68030
Wow. What does how much somebody makes an hour have to do with anything, other than to make you feel superior? So much crap like this on these boards.
I was in their position for many years and know how much crap they have to put up with. So anything that as a customer I can do to make their day better vs. making it worse is something I count as a win. And if you've ever made that little, you know that it has to do with EVERYTHING. These people are basically the new manufacturing industry of the nation and don't get paid like the old manufacturing industry did.
If I wanted to feel superior, I would be the dumbest case for it since I barely make more than they do and am in an industry with way less of a future. Also still not sure how hoping maybe I made someone's day better turned me into Uncle Moneybags twirling his mustache at the little people. I am them.
jaymc
macrumors 6502a
Blujelly
macrumors 65816
Might as well delete CNN and all other channels because they all are spreading the same media hysteria.
maxsix
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It's true some people just seem to pull their "facts" out of the same cloud they put their data in. Or draw from the same rumor mill they work in ....ha..ha..ha...
Apple thrives on Hype, chest pounding like a gorilla in the jungle, and spending a substantial amount of the time at the beginning of every keynote bragging about how much money they made, calling to our attention other big statistics that puff up their egos, making them look like they're unstoppable. And yes to a certain degree they've been unstoppable.
Yet we know better if we're being honest. No company stays on top forever with the massive numbers Apple generates. Sooner or later it will cool off and the tides will turn. At that point Apple will be forced to compete on level ground with no particular advantage. That will be a tough day for them.
I think that some people are quite tired of the Apple Way, the air of superiority, looking down on us "peasants".
But Hey! It's good to be Apple. 😀
Apple thrives on Hype, chest pounding like a gorilla in the jungle, and spending a substantial amount of the time at the beginning of every keynote bragging about how much money they made, calling to our attention other big statistics that puff up their egos, making them look like they're unstoppable. And yes to a certain degree they've been unstoppable.
Yet we know better if we're being honest. No company stays on top forever with the massive numbers Apple generates. Sooner or later it will cool off and the tides will turn. At that point Apple will be forced to compete on level ground with no particular advantage. That will be a tough day for them.
I think that some people are quite tired of the Apple Way, the air of superiority, looking down on us "peasants".
But Hey! It's good to be Apple. 😀
bbeagle
macrumors 68040
I lived for 20+ years with Apple being the peasant and underdog, and other companies like Microsoft and IBM giving an air of superiority over Apple. So my view of the situation is different. I don't view Apple's current way as being an air of superiority - I feel that this is earned, after living in the bushes for 20+ years. I've always thought of Microsoft as being worse, and I'm glad that they're now closer to the bottom - I feel they 'deserve it'. I don't think Apple has had it's time in the spotlight long enough yet - less than 10 years still. I don't see any unearned 'air of superiority' for Apple. So, perspective matters.
For teenagers now, all they know is Apple winning and Black presidents of the United States. Both were 'impossibilities' just 10 years ago.
maxsix
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I respect your position.
Yet it's all a matter of perception and the experiences that one has. In my case I grew up in Cupertino, have been using Apple computers since 1991 (see link below) and have Apple employees in my circle of friends and associates. Thus my exposure to Apple is very real and very comprehensive. When I say arrogant, narcissistic and superior it can only apply to Apple employees that indeed believe their own inflated super ego. 😀
source http://apple-history.com/170
Orr
macrumors 6502
I get virtually all my facts from the priceless comments on MacRumors. Given that throngs of CEOs, top secret systems engineers, and high level traders, all seem to constantly (and not-so-subtly, repeatedly) imply that they have intimate knowledge and firsthand experience of the inner workings of everything Apple, Intel, AMD, Nvdia, etc. There's an absolute treasure trove of expert insider knowledge here free of charge. Can't fathom anyone not utilizing this incredible resource.
sean000
macrumors 68000
I manage a technology Help Desk on a college campus, and something I have noticed in recent years is that newer students are much more agnostic when it comes to technology platforms. Windows laptops are definitely the most popular, but we see plenty of Macbooks as well. Chromebooks have really come on strong in the last year. iPads are the most popular tablets on campus, but we also see some Android tablets, and the Surface Pro 3 is coming on strong with faculty and staff... but too expensive for students. The iPhone is not as popular among the students as Android phones. I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that you can get Android phones for less. I have also heard some students characterize the iPhone as what their parents use. What is really surprising is how many students I see who own a Macbook but use an Android phone. Again I think it's about the cost. They don't really care about being all Apple, especially when they can access their Cloud-based email and data just fine from the Macbook. There are also many Windows users who have iPhones and/or iPads. Even a few who have a Windows laptop, Android phone and iPad.
Cloud computing has certainly made it easier to work between multiple platforms without missing a beat. Yes you get a full Apple experience by being Apple from OS-X to iOS to Apple Watch, and we certainly have plenty of Mac users on campus (especially faculty) who use OS-X and iOS almost exclusively. But we also see a lot of hybrid users, and I guess I am one of those these days. I have been mostly a Windows user throughout my career (although I did have a Macbook for some time that I really enjoyed), but I have been an iOS user since the iPhone 3G and now i have an iPhone 6, iPad and Apple Watch Sport. I briefly considered moving from an iPhone 5 to an Android phone just to give it a try (especially since I use Gmail and Google Calendar on my iOS devices), but the Apple Watch was the wearable I wanted so I got the iPhone 6. I'm glad I did because iOS 8 has been an excellent update, TouchID is awesome, Apple Pay is awesome, and the Apple Watch now my favorite tech device.
Anyway... having been in the tech industry since the early 90's I can certainly remember when Mac vs PC was practically a religious war. Apple, Microsoft and Google have certainly all had their successes and their not-so-shining moments. All three companies do things I really like and some things I don't. I suppose we are better off because of the competition. All three companies have their haters, and the Apple Haters are probably the most vocal and trollish. I still occasionally hear people say something like, "You probably get sick of Mac users calling you, huh?" They are surprised when I tell them that we have plenty of system admins, network admins, developers and security specialists, and tech support people all running Macs as their primary machines. I will be too if I can convince my boss to buy me another Macbook 🙂 For now I'm tasked with preparing to support Windows 10... which so far I like just fine. I still have a Windows 7 desktop at home that I use mostly for processing photographs. I just wish Apple would release an iCloud app for the PC that actually works well.
Sean
redman042
macrumors 68040
I look at it this way. The Apple Watch is getting attention, and lots of it. Much of it is controversy, but it's early days. Your doctor wouldn't have bothered talking to you about the watch if there weren't some latent interest/curiosity there. I think a lot of people making negative comments on the watch are actually partially interested but still "having a debate with themselves" which will take some time to play out. At least those who spend a lot of time debating the finer points.
I've read countless posts from people who say "they were all-in on Android and hated the iPhone for many years, but finally switched, and now would never go back". I think some of that will happen with the watch too.
I've read countless posts from people who say "they were all-in on Android and hated the iPhone for many years, but finally switched, and now would never go back". I think some of that will happen with the watch too.
Apple lives on hype like a number of other companies. But I'm pretty sure they're among the best at getting facts correct. At least they're not boasting about iPad numbers compared to how many CD players Samsung has sold, the equivalent of the joke "Microsoft sold more phones than Apple did watches" article I saw.
The media is ridiculous. They are more about sensationalism than journalism.
As an Apple fan I hope that day never come. So far they are doing well, staying way ahead of the competitors, coming up with new products, not afraid to get into new industries and not afraid to take risks. Apple has some of the best people working for them. So I see Apple staying on top for a while yet.
Also Steve Job created a really strong culture where they focus on Customer Experience above all else. I am a UI/UX guy, trying to convince my company to focus on customer above cost is so difficult! I wish I work for Apple sometime.
dr34mc4st3r
macrumors regular
Apple is a victim of their own success - every new product people expects it to become another goldmine for Apple
burgman
macrumors 68040
So people who don't live on forums and obsesses over Apple is a moron? Sounds like she has a life 🙂
Phone Junky
macrumors 68030
\-V-/
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What does having a complete lack of understanding of the economy have to do with following Apple on a forum? I'll give you a hint: Nothing.