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Which Apple Watch will you be buying?
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I've been wondering the price of the Stainless Steel version. I like the Sport just fine, but I would like some metal bands to have along the sport bands. So far there haven't been any shown for the Sport. That worries me, since I would rather not pay much more than $350.
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My guess is that the standard will range from $500-$1000 depending on whether it has leather or metal bands. It's quite easy to get up to $1100 for a "mall brand" like Tissot or Movado with a stainless steel band.
Go to a best buy and look at one.. the build quality just isn't there..
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I don't think you are far off there.
I think some people are living in a fantasy land with their gold prices
I must say though, Stainless Steel is cheap.
Perhaps there are other things the steel comes with, but apart from a little more machining time, Stainless should not be THAT much more than Aluminium.
Sapphire.
General consensus is that bands are interchangeable and you can buy any band to go with any watch. The only possible difference is that you may have to make sure you buy the right size band depending on which size watch you have.
And they didn't. Remember, it was a poll in an iPhone forum, so it was mostly answered by iPhone owners.
Sure enough, iPad sales per quarter have usually been a little less than half of iPhone sales.
But that's still more than one would expect. Most of the time, "will you buy" polls are way too optimistic, because it costs nothing to say "yes I will"
Which Apple Watch will you be buying?
No, it was a poll on the front page of Macrumors' website. And Apple sold 3x as many iPads last quarter as Macs. That's pretty impressive.
Here's the poll.
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/macrumors-poll-are-you-buying-an-ipad/
And they didn't. Remember, it was a poll in an iPhone forum, so it was mostly answered by iPhone owners.
Sure enough, iPad sales per quarter have usually been a little less than half of iPhone sales.
But that's still more than one would expect. Most of the time, "will you buy" polls are way too optimistic, because it costs nothing to say "yes I will"
No, it was a poll on the front page of Macrumors' website. And Apple sold 3x as many iPads last quarter as Macs. That's pretty impressive.
Here's the poll.
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/02/macrumors-poll-are-you-buying-an-ipad/
Fair point that it wasn't just iPhone owners.
So what we really need, is another poll in the same location that asks "Did you buy an iPad"
Yeah, but the bands I have seen don't actually match the Sport Watch. So it would look weird. It'd be nice to just see an space grey, aluminum band to go with the Sport Watch. If I see that, the question of which to buy would be answered for me.
Hmm. $500 may work for me, but $1100 is out of the question. I'm not sure how often Apple plans on updating this thing, but I know I'll want to upgrade it when they start adding in additional features (Maybe they'll have some form of upgrades the user can perform).
I'm waiting on prices and see what version 2 brings. I find that the iPad 2 is far better than the original iPad, and the iPhone 3G was far better than the original iPhone.
I'm really hoping for better battery life. Having to charge it every day will be too rough for me.
I'm really hoping for better battery life. Having to charge it every day will be too rough for me.
I won't get it because I have a 4S but if I can get a new phone I would choose the sport version.
The Moto 360 might look nice as a piece of hardware, but it is way too thick and a severe problem is that the OS and general use cases for information are not intended and suitable for round screens.
We might all agree that round screens look more stylish and more like traditional watches, but for a smart watches a round screen doesn't make any sense.
Let's be honest.
It's all down to how the UI is created.
I have no doubt, that Apple, Microsoft, Android etc, could, if they wanted, create a brand new user interface that was made and designed specifically to make the best use of a round screen.
It's just the user interfaces so far have been created with a square screen in mind.
There is no right or wrong way, but you just need to software (UI and apps) to match the hardware.
Thats all.
Perhaps...
But I think there is a reason why Cinema screens, TV screens, desktops, tablets, mobile phones and so on and on have a square display and not circular. Because displaying content makes more sense in square then circular IMO.
Round is a more natural shape, nature wise, I don't think anyone can deny that. Square is a more artifial man made shape.
Perhaps this is why many like a round watch without really knowing why. It just feels and looks more natural.
When it comes to displaying man made data, most man made things are square, often for ease of manufacture, it's always easier to cut and to store square things than nice round things.
When it comes to things for the body, we tend to go for smooth round curves not hard square straight edges.
It's easier to cleanly fit more human text into a square area of course.
Human view wise, everything shoul be widescreen, even the watch, people have rubbished the round electronic watch idea, saying its only round because if the mechanics of hands and a watch face.
I can easily point out that a nice square is equally stupid as again it's only that shape, a square, also for mechanical watch hands to rotate around.
You would not often make a mechanical watch that is twice as wide as it is tall as that would not work with rotating watch hands.
But such a display would be far far better firm the human field of view.
Also for displaying text and photos etc ect.
Perhaps a 4:3 landscape display would be far more sensible and practical when leaving mechanical watch hands behind and moving to a screen based watch.
I am sad apple has played it so very safe and was frightened to actually set a new display standard that could of taken us forward for a new decade or more.
Now all your apps, text, photos etc etc are going to have to be hacked to fit this aspect ratio they are going to use.
Sign.
A widescreen watch would look silly. Square mechanical watches exist and are actually fairly common. Apple tried to stay as true to the watch as they could. I'm sure they considered a round design but likely concluded that the design compromises necessary today were too much. If this takes off, I'm sure we'll see more variations in the future, just as we saw with the iPod.
Why silly?
I'd suggest its only silly as it's something new you are not used to.
Note: I did not say widescreen 4:3 would be acceptable, and offer more to view, but still be a practical shape.
Silly just means different to what we are used to.
I'm sure a car looked silly to horse riders, and a 5" mobile phone that needed charging every day would sound totally stupid 10 year ago, then phones were nice and small, slipped in the pocket and lasted 2 weeks.
Sorry, but this makes no sense at all. There is nothing more "natural" about a round shape for a watch. The reason most watches are round is because the hands move in a circle over the dial. Adding corners didn't make sense at the time and still don't. Look at the hideous Bell & Ross watches.
Whether square is an artificial man made shape is totally irrelevant. Smart watches need to display information such as text, photos, notifications etc, which are best displayed in a right angled fashion. Why? Because since the beginning of time man has consumed textual information in that fashion. It is therefore more natural.
Pushing it into a circular shape, just because watches originally used round dials and hands, doesn't make sense in terms of the purpose that smart watches need to fulfil.
I'm sure Apple could come up with a great user interface that is probably better suited for round screens than Android, but even Apple would not be able to get around the fact that for the purpose of information consumption a square or rectangled screen just makes more sense.
The difference is that a phone back then was and still is today something that you put in your pocket or purse when not using it. Perhaps it sits on your desk during the day charging up. A watch is a wearable item, and by definition looks are important. That's why Google Glass hasn't caught on. It doesn't look remotely fashionable.
I think we all know Google Glass was and never has been targeted at normal consumers.
It's more a proof of tech, for future use, not really a product that was really mass market intended.
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I'm not really disagreeing.
Only that I am honest enough to admit (unlike many here) that "IF" The Apple watch was round, almost everyone would be saying how it's way better than the boring rectangle shapes attempted by Samsung etc.
That is part of the problem on these forums.
People will agree and defend whatever is presented to them.
Not necessarily. I don't think you'll get many people here defending the "hockey puck" mouse, and there were plenty of people disappointed in 2012 and 2013 that the iPhone wasn't bigger.
Until Apple actually showed the Apple Watch, none of us knew what it would look like. Samsung released square watches, and Motorola released a round one. As the Moto 360 shows, round watches involve compromises, too, so if Apple had shown a round design, I'm sure we'd have had lots of people complaining that the watch is too big, has wasted space, is too thick/has too big a bezel (I'm assuming Apple would have made it thicker or had a bigger bezel to avoid the "flat tire" effect), or doesn't make good use of the rounded design.
Apple has a tendency to introduce designs that make sense, even if sometimes it means it is controversial at first. The design of the original MacBook Air made a lot of sense (at least to me). However, at the time, I heard lots of complaints about how it lacked an optical drive, focused too much on thinness, and that anyone who wanted a notebook lighter than 4 lbs needed to spend more time at the gym. Today, it's viewed as the notebook that brought the ultralight category mainstream. Similarly, the original iPhone was derided as lacking a physical keyboard, being "too big," and being underpowered. Today it's viewed as the device that revolutionized the mobile industry and made the smartphone mainstream. The original iPad was derided as being "just a big iPod Touch," yet it essentially created the modern tablet category.
Given all of that, it's understandable for many people to conclude that Apple likely has struck the right balance, even without seeing it in person. I.e. they have developed a good track record. It's not as if the idea of a round smart watch is anything revolutionary. It's an obvious design consideration. That Apple went with a squared-off design likely means that they viewed the square as being more practical. I'm sure there were prototypes of round Apple Watches.
I wonder, as the technology advances, whether we will see other designs. An octagonal design with a square screen in the middle might be possible in the future (i.e. the current design with the bezels essentially eliminated at the corners).
I don't think that is true at all, that's just something you assume. There are a lot of Apple fans on this forum disappointed of not having an iPhone 6 with 4" screen and not liking the 4.7 or 5.5" iPhones or not liking the latest macs, or latest iOS versions and so on. And lot of people in here were very quick to dismiss the Apple watch as ugly product without owning one or seeing one in person. And yes, I still believe if Apple would have gone rectangular with it's watch it would have designed better then Motorola.
Perhaps, though I remember, and anyone can go find if they like, pictures on MacRumours of round faced Apple Watch mockups and many people saying how amazing such a device would be if it looked just like that.
Enough to tell you that, I'm sure if the Apple watch was round, And, naturally Apple had created a UI to fully take advantage of the round display area, we would not see THAT many people slagging it off as being totally wrong, and that they won't be buying it, and it should of been square.
I think we all know, most would be impressed with Apples round device if it had been that
I have the feeling these people still like the circular kind. I also remember reading comments of people saying that rectangular looks and feels more like a watch. It's a never ending debate. It doesn't meant that these people have changed their mind after seeing the rectangular watch from Apple.
True, but also I don't believe that people would have still loved the Apple watch, had they implemented the UI of Motorola 360 and the flat tire thing. I believe it would have been a supernova scandal all over the internet and everyone and their grandma's would have started making fun of the flat tire