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You said, "you are all jumping to conclusions." Sounded to me like you were talking about "all" of us.
Just wanted to point out that many of us are not concluding anything yet.

Well this thread is chock full of people who think one test makes the TSMC have better battery life or that 2nm difference and a few results means a huge performance boost. Sorry if you felt horribly slandered.
 
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Well this thread is chock full of people who think one test makes the TSMC have better battery life or that 2nm difference and a few results means a huge performance boost. Sorry if you felt horribly slandered.

Apology accepted. Now show me ONE person who thinks that a single test makes any difference. In the mean time, you don't have to read this thread at all since it is "chock full" of "all" of us "jumping to conclusions."
 
Just did another Samsung battery test overnight and it is pretty much consistent with my previous test. It's still lower than the TSMC by quite a lot, which had almost 8 hrs runtime and a 4.7k score.

Today's test:
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Yesterdays:
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Just did another Samsung battery test overnight and it is pretty much consistent with my previous test. It's still lower than the TSMC by quite a lot, which had almost 8 hrs runtime and a 4.7k score.

Today's test:
View attachment 589037

Yesterdays:
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This is only one sample:

That being said, battery life trumps small gains in performance, in my eyes at least.
 
This is only one sample:

That being said, battery life trumps small gains in performance, in my eyes at least.

This thread is getting too fuzzy, maybe we should start a new thread regarding chip and battery test? Most people just test the performance.
 
Hahaha, wait .... so now the middle of the furor over the Samsung chip being smaller (suggesting faster and more power efficient), the TSMC chip - the larger chip, is now showing better battery life?

:D

I'm just glad I got a model with an Intel chip.
 
This thread is getting too fuzzy, maybe we should start a new thread regarding chip and battery test? Most people just test the performance.

Or we could just, you know, wait for someone reputable to do a structured controlled test, rather than just post after post of questionable data...

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Performance is pretty easy...crowdsourced benchmarks give a good view, as they're easy to run and so far they all look very consistent. It's obvious that there are no major gains from either manufacturer in that department. While it seems that most of the benchmarks show the Samsung having a very slim lead in performance so far, it's so small as to be completely irrelevant. No one can feel the difference in a 0.5% speed gain.

Battery life is more interesting given the very few data points we have, but this will be very difficult to test well. Someone will need to get a BUNCH of phones (at a bare minimum, 10 of each kind...would be better if the number more approached 50 of each), and did clean installs with the only thing on them being geekbench (or another battery test suite), and run each phone a few times. THEN we might be able to say there's a trend with battery performance based on a chip. Unfortunately, I don't think any publication is going to care enough to test a huge volume of phones.
 
When we got more Geekbench Battery result scores (please post screenshot/link to primatelabs.com), we'll see how this story evolves...
 
This is outrageous! I am going to hire johnny cochran and file a class action lawsuit against Apple. Two reasons to sue Apple once again they left out full info of their hardware. But more importantly we will sue them for messing with our OCD, resulting in pain and suffering
 
my scores are all over the place so im not posting. mean about as much as running the speedtest app over and over. always changes
 
my scores are all over the place so im not posting. mean about as much as running the speedtest app over and over. always changes
It's so easy to tell when someone has a tsmc or Samsung. The tsmc's are always like "idc brah, they're within spec, who cares anyways". And the samsungs all be like "here's my awesome benchmark! Have a good one!".
 
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It's so easy to tell when someone has a tsmc or Samsung. The tsmc's are always like "idc brah, they're within spec, who cares anyways". And the samsungs all be like "here's my awesome benchmark! Have a good one!".

Mine is TSMC, I can't wait to do the battery benchmark tonight. If we're getting the better battery, thank goodness. The performance difference to me is negligible. If I'm getting more battery life though, I could definitely use it!
 
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Just did another Samsung battery test overnight and it is pretty much consistent with my previous test. It's still lower than the TSMC by quite a lot, which had almost 8 hrs runtime and a 4.7k score.

Today's test:
View attachment 589037

Just to get the variable out of the way, would you be able to test either the TSMC phone without a sim card or the Samsung one with a sim in it, please?
Now, you've only posted results of Samsung with no sim, I wonder if that makes a difference.
 
Well, this is depressing.
My phone is fast, not laggy at all, never had a shutdown, and I don't even have that screen pinching issue.

BUT, I just found out I don't have the processor I thought I had!!

Glad that I checked out this thread before the 14 day return period is over!!
 
Ah shucks. I bit the bullet and installed geek bench. Just ran it and got 2562/4462 on the first run.

2nd run: 2563/4462
3rd run: 2563/4473
4th run: 2566/4472

Update: installed system status
Confirmed! N71AP

Ty!!


You could also download (from the app store) Lirum Info Lite and it will give you the information for the chip number to identify the manufacturer and it's a free download. =]
 
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