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I didn't bother to turn brightness right down as I always have it set very low anyway ( set about 5-6mm from lowest possible setting ) ; you think not turning brightness right down will affect score ?

I guess I could do another test tonight and see ....
One thing for sure. You will never get same numbers from same test. There is a margin of error that is greater than the difference between chips. Will never get definitive answer due to variability.
 
Would be very interesting to see what you get with the new phone !

Btw was the exchange because of the battery score or .......?
Morning guys so here the results for the replaced unit using geekbench with same condition as before (min brightness, disabled autobrightness, flight mode, dim mode enabled):

Iphone6s 64gb model N71mAP 6:00:05 3608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/125335

To compare with the unit I had before replacement:
iPhone 6s 64gb model N71AP 4:05

I know it's difficult to conclude anything on 2 tests, i know there are variations between unit but 2h of battery life difference doesn't sound right at all.

Would be happy to see other results.
 
Morning guys so here the results for the replaced unit using geekbench with same condition as before (min brightness, disabled autobrightness, flight mode, dim mode enabled):

Iphone6s 64gb model N71mAP 6:00:05 3608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/125335

To compare with the unit I had before replacement:
iPhone 6s 64gb model N71AP 4:05

I know it's difficult to conclude anything on 2 tests, i know there are variations between unit but 2h of battery life difference doesn't sound right at all.

Would be happy to see other results.


Actually, that's the difference in battery life shown between the chips using the same test, in this thread.
 
Morning guys so here the results for the replaced unit using geekbench with same condition as before (min brightness, disabled autobrightness, flight mode, dim mode enabled):

Iphone6s 64gb model N71mAP 6:00:05 3608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/125335

To compare with the unit I had before replacement:
iPhone 6s 64gb model N71AP 4:05

I know it's difficult to conclude anything on 2 tests, i know there are variations between unit but 2h of battery life difference doesn't sound right at all.

Would be happy to see other results.

Wow that's astonishing really, up 50% !

May I ask why you got it exchanged in the first instance ?
 
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Morning guys so here the results for the replaced unit using geekbench with same condition as before (min brightness, disabled autobrightness, flight mode, dim mode enabled):

Iphone6s 64gb model N71mAP 6:00:05 3608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/125335

To compare with the unit I had before replacement:
iPhone 6s 64gb model N71AP 4:05

I know it's difficult to conclude anything on 2 tests, i know there are variations between unit but 2h of battery life difference doesn't sound right at all.

Would be happy to see other results.

My results from a few days ago seem to be consistent to yours, although mine are the Plus versions.

My TSMC Plus was able to achieve a duration of almost 8 hours, while the Samsung was only able to last 6 hours on the test. A difference of almost 2 hours, similar to yours.

Samsung:
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TSMC:
tsmc.png
 
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I had an iPhone 6s with a Samsung processor that was overheating.

Returned it yesterday and got an iPhone 6 Plus instead.
 
Wow that's astonishing really, up 50% !

May I ask why you got it exchanged in the first instance ?
I asked for a replacement because battery in normal use seems to be unusually low for my use.

My geekbench test seems to confirm that. Now i've good battery but non uniform backlight.

Also Take my 4h of battery life with the 6s with a pinch of salt i may have had a faulty unit initially. Only other tests with same model could confirms that. As well i don't really know if geekbench is reliable accross tests for consistency.
 
I asked for a replacement because battery in normal use seems to be unusually low for my use.

My geekbench test seems to confirm that. Now i've good battery but non uniform backlight.

Also Take my 4h of battery life with the 6s with a pinch of salt i may have had a faulty unit initially. Only other tests with same model could confirms that. As well i don't really know if geekbench is reliable accross tests for consistency.

Well I re did the test last night with brightness turned right down and it was very marginally better at 04:23:40

Still not great but as I said before I'm getting over 6 hours in reality.

Have you noticed a 'real world' improvement yet ?
 
My results from a few days ago seem to be consistent to yours, although mine are the Plus versions.

My TSMC Plus was able to achieve a duration of almost 8 hours, while the Samsung was only able to last 6 hours on the test. A difference of almost 2 hours, similar to yours.


So, we are saying that the 16nm chip is more power efficient than 14nm?
Doesn't sound right
 
I was told my old iPhone 6 has the TSMC chip,and my 6 has had much better battery life between charges then my old Samsung Galazy III.
 
So, we are saying that the 16nm chip is more power efficient than 14nm?
Doesn't sound right

Agreed, it does sound counter to what you'd think, but that does seem to be what the tests and figure are indicating atm.

We need more people to post battery tests to get a better indication I think ......
 
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It's possible that earlier rumors of TSMC using first-generation 16nm FinFET weren't true. Instead they were able to ramp up production and now they are using much better second-generation 16nm FF+ for Apple A9. Interested too see what Chipworks or Anandtech will report on this.

Looks like it's now confirmed!!


Joshua Ho, Anandtech:
"Both of the iPhone 6s units we have right now are TSMC 16FF+."

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshuaHo96/status/650598118908497920
 
And that TSMC 16nm FF+ means 15% performance increase and power consumption goes down 30% compared to TSMC 16 nm FF. (no plus)

So it's possible that TSMC could be more power efficient than Samsung. We'll see.
 
Guys help! I have the Samsung chip but I bought my iPhone in Canada I'm going back home to uk tomorrow should I replace it? I'm in the 14 day window!????
 
And that TSMC 16nm FF+ means 15% performance increase and power consumption goes down 30% compared to TSMC 16 nm FF. (no plus)

So it's possible that TSMC could be more power efficient than Samsung. We'll see.
if this is true, what does it mean for Apple's 2016 A10 chip? It was supposed to be manufactured on 16nm FF+ and 10nm supposedly won't be ready until 2017. Will A10 offer any significant performance improvements? How will Apple go even thinner with the iPhone design if the SoC basically uses the same amount of power as the A9? A7 to A8 wasn't huge but it was still 25% faster in CPU and a solid 50% faster in GPU (and it was more power efficient and offered better sustained performance due to going from 28nm to 20nm process).
 
Guys help! I have the Samsung chip but I bought my iPhone in Canada I'm going back home to uk tomorrow should I replace it? I'm in the 14 day window!????

Does your phone work? If it does, then don't return it. If it doesn't, then return it. Apple never promised you a specific chip in there, and there's no guarantees you'll get anything different the next time around.

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There should be a reason why Apple ordered 60% of the chips from TSMC and only 40% from Samsung.
It looks like they themselves prefer the TSMC technology.
I wouldn't be surprised if they phased out Samsung down the road when the supplies improve.
 
There should be a reason why Apple ordered 60% of the chips from TSMC and only 40% from Samsung.
It looks like they themselves prefer the TSMC technology.
I wouldn't be surprised if they phased out Samsung down the road when the supplies improve.
No. It was probably cheaper lol.
 
6s Plus 64GB with TSMC chip. I have been very satisfied with battery life so far, but no benchmarks. I did experience the "random shut off" issue this morning for the first time FWIW.
 
If you know the price of TSMC chip is 70% higher than samsung's, you probably will understand why Apple still order samsung's. Cuz Apple wanna force TSMC lower its price. Hope TSMC won't give in when they know this test result....
 
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