If they come out with undisputable proof that the TMSC phones last several hours longer in real world usage then I think Apple will have no choice but to appease their customers.
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Which chip does your 6s(6s+) have?
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Honestly I don't know why people think 14nm consumes less energy than 16nm. If that size means the size of the fin, obviously the thicker fin is, the smaller leakage current it has. It's just very simple quantum tunneling exponential decay. Intel used to make the fin only 3 atoms thick and the leakage is very horrible. That's why they used the high K material instead.
great to know, random internet guy!
BTW, a friend of mine at Apple told me that everyone who returns their Samsung chip phone will get a coupon from Chipotle for 1 free burrito. Act fast!
it doesn't directly translate to the size of the fin. The _nm process is the minimum feature width, ie: how small the gate length can be as well as width of wires.
Samsung chose to name their finfet process "14nm" albeit it is not a true 14nm (A 20nm-->14nm shrink)..
TSMC went with 16nm depicting a half-node shrink (20nm-->16nm-->14nm).
Basically they have a 20nm backend (the 20nm, 16nm, 14nm have a metal pitch of 64nm), they have the same circuit density, essentially the same node.
Somewhere out there an advanced alien race is looking down at us, reading this thread and simply shaking their heads
If there was a 10, 15 minute real world difference.... That's no big deal.
If a 20 percent real world difference is confirmed... that is beyond belief, and it is irresponsible of Apple to release a product with such variances. If accurate, I'm shocked that Apple didn't just delay the release a month or two until an adequate supply of TSMC chips were available. There is no way Steve would have allowed an iPhone to launch where battery life varies 2 hours depending on who manufacturers the CPU.
If a 20 percent real world difference is confirmed... that is beyond belief, and it is irresponsible of Apple to release a product with such variances. If accurate, I'm shocked that Apple didn't just delay the release a month or two until an adequate supply of TSMC chips were available. There is no way Steve would have allowed an iPhone to launch where battery life varies 2 hours depending on who manufacturers the CPU.
I been using my iPhone 6s+ pretty heavily on safari and Facebook for 4 hours now and still have 76%
Have Samsung chip, no overheating issues, no freezing or lag
And that last video shows both a9 chips doing the identical tasks and the battery scores are identical
Apple would never ship out their phones if they had a 20% difference in battery life. You don't think this is tested?
Have Samsung chip, no overheating issues, no freezing or lag
And that last video shows both a9 chips doing the identical tasks and the battery scores are identical
Apple would never ship out their phones if they had a 20% difference in battery life. You don't think this is tested?
Yeah I did like that real-world test from the user that was posted. That's encouraging. And that little bit loss over that period isn't too shabby.
It be nice for Apple to address this and show some testing results between the chips
Or one of the larger and creditable review sites share some testing for the public to see
I really can't imagine Apple would be able to sell a phone with that big of a difference. If we don't meet the suggested battery life and it missed by a lot? They wouldn't have much choice to be refunding customers for false advertising
See what happens I guess, but I been more then happy with mine so far and only gone through one battery cycle with it
Or one of the larger and creditable review sites share some testing for the public to see
I really can't imagine Apple would be able to sell a phone with that big of a difference. If we don't meet the suggested battery life and it missed by a lot? They wouldn't have much choice to be refunding customers for false advertising
See what happens I guess, but I been more then happy with mine so far and only gone through one battery cycle with it
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Steve launched the iPhone 4 which had pronounced antenna issues, and then told us we were holding it wrong. No phone is perfect, and if Mr. Jobs was around today and knew about a battery variance, he probably would have launched the 6s just the same.
2 hours in a benchmark, IF that is consistent which it's not, is not real world usage. Unless all you care about is benchmark metrics then it means nothing truthfully.
There is also a WIDE variety of scores people are getting so its nowhere near a clear cut 110 min difference in the benchmarks between the chip brands.
It's simply way too early to make any conclusions.
My guess is the Samsung meets the advertised specs. They can't really get in trouble for beating the advertisement in the case of TSMC
Well, it'd be a shame if you weren't able to run your 3 daily benchmarks during your commute from and to work
As long as the lower Samsung (20% less battery) number is within spec, and hits the quoted battery length, there's no issue. For example, they say for the 6s Plus, WiFi internet usage battery length is "up to 12 hours". Technically, 8 hours fits the requirement... however, we as users usually interpret this to mean, "I'll get 12 hours of wifi internet usage." Apple has no liability if you only get 8 hours.
Now, that said, I'd bet that the Samsung ones, if they do indeed get lower battery times, that they're the ones benchmarked to the 12 hours, and the TSMC's get more... beating the spec. No problem there. So, you, as a user, as long as you're getting the quoted usage times from Apple's site, have nothing to complain about. If it got, say, 6 or 8 hours, fine. But if you have a Samsung that gets 12 hours and someone else has a TSMC that gets 14 hours, in not way at all is that a problem for Apple - BOTH hit the 12 hour spec.
Have the TSMC on my 6S Plus. As a matter of fact, I've always got the superior products, always got the non-yellowish screen on my iPhones while my dad & brother both have yellow hued screens on their iPhone 6(s). I got the non-ghosting Samsung screen on my rMBP 1st Gen. I guess I'm pretty lucky with Apple!
That's not true. If Samsung chips reach the performance numbers quoted on their website. Then they dont' have to anything.
Nissan GTR - fast car right - The engine is hand made with delicate care. But If I were to take Nissan GTR Car A vs Nissan GTR Car B and did a Horsepower check and saw 10 HP difference. That is not enough justification to get the faster car -- As long as Nissan has reached minimum specification requirements it given.