Duff-Man says...I like it where I am, but if I were to go elsewhere it would be Europe, probably Switzerland - I love Luzern and Zurich and Basel. New Zealand would be another choice - mid-sized city like Christchurch...oh yeah!
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Duff-Man said:
Welcome back Duff!
Missed you. Back OT:
Shamefully I am a monoglot. So my choices facing no immigration issues, but language as a barrier limits choices IMO.
Some of my choices though -
- Iceland (first choice for the scenery and the openness of the people)
- UK - (second choice because of the history, beautiful countryside's, and colorful politics)
- Australia/New Zealand, for the great expanse of nature- have yet traveled there, so I can't speak about the people from direct experience
- Canada, for in a shameful way they seem more like our 51st State. That opinion will most likely change once I get my planned trips to Toronto, Montreal, and Quebec done.
I would love to immigrate to another country at this time, but it would be with a heavy heart. Reasons? I am tired of partisan bickering that has stalemated any real progress for solving social issues and economic issues that face the US. We are so divided as a nation, I doubt that we could decide on paper or plastic at the grocery stand.
And not to beat this drum to often here MR, as a Gay male I want a place that if I ever choose to love again (after ending a 13+ year relationship. and being soon 48, I have given up on that idea for now of finding a new love to spend my life with). But it would be nice to have a place that gave faith in that "all are equal, under the law" of the land.
Chip NoVaMac said:
Funny, I've always thought of the US as our 11th province..
Just bugging ya - it just doesn't seem right to call the second largest country on Earth a "state"...
mpw said:
I think you more or less read my mind.
I could definitely go for the quad-coastal lifestyle: London, NYC, San Francisco, and Auckland, with a pit-stop in Kauai to break up that long trans-Pacific flight.
I'd also give serious thought to Barcelona and Prague.
~Shard~ said:Funny, I've always thought of the US as our 11th province..
LOL
So true in so many ways.
Just bugging ya - it just doesn't seem right to call the second largest country on Earth a "state"...
I'll admit to a bit of US nationalism in my remarks. But when one really looks at the details of each our nations, there is little that separates us. For me the strength of an independent auto industry (in design at least) tells me a lot (IMO).
I have no problem with the US and Canada unifying to become a major land mass to be recognized as a "super power". Notice the lower case. This was meant on purpose. In the end, I do think that if we were to "unite" as "one" there could be benefits.
~Shard~ said:A matter of perspective then perhaps...
Australia is the driest place on Earth, and isn't exactly famous for it's rainforests. Trust me when I say they're not particular spectacular (although they're very nice to walk through, I'm sure). The oldest rainforest is thought to be in Australia, which is nice to know.
New Zealand has nice national parks. Australia does as well, but their national parks aren't what you'd expect, either. As for surfing, sure, good, not great, I'll give you that one.
Central America, South America, and some parts of Africa have better white water rafting. The most difficult one in the world is in Africa (forgot specific country). Australia has several decent ones, although most are probably comparable to the one I went to in Vancouver. I wouldn't go to Vancouver for great white water rafting. It's good, and people have lots of fun, but lets not get carried away by calling it the best.
Chip NoVaMac said:I'll admit to a bit of US nationalism in my remarks. But when one really looks at the details of each our nations, there is little that separates us. For me the strength of an independent auto industry (in design at least) tells me a lot (IMO).
I have no problem with the US and Canada unifying to become a major land mass to be recognized as a "super power". Notice the lower case. This was meant on purpose. In the end, I do think that if we were to "unite" as "one" there could be benefits.
Nothing wrong with patriotism.
Yes, in some respects there definitely isn't much that separates us when you get down to it.As for your independent auto industry, sure you can have that one over us Canadians. However just remember who has all the oil. You need us bad.
As for uniting, yes, we would indeed be a super power.
I see many people in the states use both paper and plastic together at the grocery store (paper inside the plasitc). So, if that can be an option to choose, it would a good alernative. Yeah, I agreed. Here the politics is more win all or lose all mentality. When I start looking for a different place/country, my decision making process will also look for the place where I don't get bothered with those politics.Chip NoVaMac said:We are so divided as a nation, I doubt that we could decide on paper or plastic at the grocery stand.
~Shard~ said:Funny, I've always thought of the US as our 11th province..
Just bugging ya - it just doesn't seem right to call the second largest country on Earth a "state"...
We already have 11 provinces.
They'd have to be our 12th.
Abstract said:Australia is the driest place on Earth, and isn't exactly famous for it's rainforests. Trust me when I say they're not particular spectacular (although they're very nice to walk through, I'm sure). The oldest rainforest is thought to be in Australia, which is nice to know.
Yep - the Daintree Rainforest up by Cairns - that was one of the ones I was specifically thinking of. That place was amazing.
Abstract said:
I loved the diversity of both Oz and NZ when i was there. Outback, desert, rainforest, beaches, ocean, mud pools, mountains, glaciers... I loved it there...
Abstract said:I wouldn't go to Vancouver for great white water rafting. It's good, and people have lots of fun, but lets not get carried away by calling it the best.
Sorry, my mistake for not clarifying - I didn't mean Vancouver itself has great rafting, I was referring specifically to Golden, BC and the Kicking Horse.
Abstract said:We already have 11 provinces.
They'd have to be our 12th.
Um, 10 provinces and 3 territories last time I checked. If you're willing to put money on that though, just let me know...
OK, lets see how I go:
From East to West...
Provinces:
Newfoundland
Nova Scotia
Prince Edward Island
New Brunswick
Québec
Ontario
Manitoba
Saskatchewan
Alberta
British Columbia
Territories:
Nunavut
Northwest Territories
Yukon
10 provinces and three territories, am I right?
From East to West...
Provinces:
Newfoundland
Nova Scotia
Prince Edward Island
New Brunswick
Québec
Ontario
Manitoba
Saskatchewan
Alberta
British Columbia
Territories:
Nunavut
Northwest Territories
Yukon
10 provinces and three territories, am I right?
Wasn't the point of having Nunavut around because the people who lived there wanted to have their own land and become a province?
I thought that becoming a province was going through, although I also heard it got ixnay'ed by the federal government early on because their population wasn't large enough to warrant a vote on federal elections or their own provincial government. I don't know because I don't follow the news all the way to the end on these things, but Nunavut was originally planned as a province. Whether they became one.....I actually don't know.
I thought that becoming a province was going through, although I also heard it got ixnay'ed by the federal government early on because their population wasn't large enough to warrant a vote on federal elections or their own provincial government. I don't know because I don't follow the news all the way to the end on these things, but Nunavut was originally planned as a province. Whether they became one.....I actually don't know.
Chundles said:
You win the prize!
Abstract said:
Yeah, something like that - never really followed the details on that one, just knew that they were effectively splitting up the NWT into 2 territories instead of one...
Chundles said:When I was over there I heard it described as "the biggest 'I'm Sorry' in the history of Canada." Is that true? Was it really bigger than the "I'm Sorry" you guys gave for Bryan Adams?
I thought the biggest "I'm Sorry" was given to some native group in BC, where BC had to effectively "give back" like 1/4th or 1/3rd of the land in BC back to a certain group. This was within the last 5 years.
But again, I don't really follow these stories for years or anything, so lots may have changed and not changed.
Abstract said:
Yeah, I got it now, thanks. Wasn't aware of that actually, interesting - shows how much I pay attention...
Abstract said:
Sure as hell drowns out the "I'm Sorry" given by this government to our native people. Oh wait, a pin-drop would drown that out, a whisper would drown that out. What's quieter than a whisper? Oh yeah, a Mac mini idling would drown it out because there hasn't actually been one...
Well at least your government has never kidnapped the young children of native families in the dead of night, and forced them to live with strangers.
Oh wait.....
Oh wait.....
scotland.
ireland.
australia.
sweden.
canada (port hardy, bc).
grand cayman.
peru.
i think i would run out of characters long before running out of list.
pity the people who have never been anywhere other than 'home'
ireland.
australia.
sweden.
canada (port hardy, bc).
grand cayman.
peru.
i think i would run out of characters long before running out of list.
pity the people who have never been anywhere other than 'home'
Abstract said:Well at least your government has never kidnapped the young children of native families in the dead of night, and forced them to live with strangers.
Oh wait.....
Yep, we could have a big fight over who treats their native peoples worse. You go find an Inuit and I'll go try to find a Tasmanian aboriginal.
Oh wait.....
Well, Alaska (including the Aleutians) is as wide as the rest of the US (excluding Hawaii), and takes up around 50% of the land area as the lower 48.~Shard~ said:Just bugging ya - it just doesn't seem right to call the second largest country on Earth a "state"...
I can end this right here: Smallpox blankets.Chundles said: