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Which iTunes for Windows Millennium?

BlueMoonForever said:
UPDATE: I sat down with my grandma last night and explained to her how it is unsafe to use this OS. I then went on about security and she should not put any personal info on the internet with this computer. I said I do not want her to become a victim of identity theft. I tried to convince her to bank with her new iPhone.

She said she is not changing her habits. She is going to live without her 50 some songs on her iPhone. She likes how ME looks and does not want to learn something new. She said she understands that technology is moving forward, but she's happy where she is at. So that pretty much wraps up my dilemma. I'll just hope that she continues to be safe in there.

Knock on wood, she hasn't had a problem in the 13 years she has been using ME with her finances.
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What I would do is grab an old junker Windows laptop, or hell a Mac. Just something that will run XP. Put it in Classic mode and ask her to use it. Don't force it, just ask her. Let her try it out. If she doesn't like it, fine. She knows the risks of running an outdated OS on the modern web now, so I'd hope she would at least be a little more careful.

I would also try the same thing with OS X. It can't hurt to try it on someone else's computer, right?

I also understand that she paid $2500 for that machine back in 2001. Judging by Microsoft's Sys Reqs for XP, that machine should do fairly well (hell, I know someone who managed to get Windows 7 installed on PIII. Don't ask me how, but I have screen shots to prove it, didn't run well).

She has to realize she is trying to sync a device 12 years newer then the machine she has. It is also faster, with double the RAM and 64-bit processing.

I know XP is unsupported, but more apps support it right now then probably any did with ME. Plus, XP is hailed as Microsofts Best OS ever, with 7 in a (very, very, VERY) near 2nd.

She also has to realize that she bought the machine in 2001. 2001. By todays standards, that machine is a dinosaur. It has gotten her this far, but it won't go much further.
 
lordofthereef said:
So...

Why is this thread filled with trying to explain to the OP that his grandma's ME computer is horribly out of date. I am pretty sure he gets it. There is no reason to go on and on for pages about how a $250 computer today can do many times more what a $2500 computer of yesteryear can do.

At the end of the day, Grandma is an adult. As much as you folks seem to think it's ok, it is very degrading to FORCE an adult to do something, because "you know better". This often happens with the elderly and it contributes to depression and shorter lifespans. One can suggest things, but that is very different from "not letting them" do things. Yes, her risk of having her social security check stolen is probably higher on that machine. Explaining that to her an allowing her to come to the decision herself is the proper answer here. It's hard to imagine, but you will all get old someday, and perhaps in a similar situation.

I was going to recommend GMusic, but even that requires XP or higher. Is it an option to grab a thug drive and save all of her music to that and then sync it to stuns match using another computer or something?
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And here we have it. First piece of proper advice in the whole thread. Well done sir!
 
BlueMoonForever said:
Which version of iTunes would support Windows ME (Windows Millennium) for the iPhone 5S? Thanks

I ask because my grandma just got a new 5S but uses a computer thats a little older.
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Grandma's computer if anyone is interested.

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BlueMoonForever said:
Grandma's computer if anyone is interested.

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Gateway!?!? :eek:

My parents got me my first PC in 1998, it was a Gateway model. And it was the biggest piece of crap machine from the moment we took it out of the box. Numerous trips to the Gateway store to have it fixed and it still could not be rectified.

To this day, I try to avoid Windows machines. But I will avoid a Gateway machine like the freakin plague. It still boils my blood.

If it were me, I'd take it out back, shoot it, blow it up, and chuck the charred remains in the recycling bin and call it a day.
 
madsci954 said:
Gateway!?!? :eek:

My parents got me my first PC in 1998, it was a Gateway model. And it was the biggest piece of crap machine from the moment we took it out of the box. Numerous trips to the Gateway store to have it fixed and it still could not be rectified.

To this day, I try to avoid Windows machines. But I will avoid a Gateway machine like the freakin plague. It still boils my blood.

If it were me, I'd take it out back, shoot it, blow it up, and chuck the charred remains in the recycling bin and call it a day.
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HaHa really? The computer is still running strong? Guess we got a good one. Is it normal for computer components to work without ever being replaced for 13 years? I mean everything is original inside the computer.
 
BlueMoonForever said:
Is it normal for computer components to work without ever being replaced for 13 years?
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No! Especially not in a Gateway. If nothing else, make sure that your grandma has good, current backups of anything she thinks is important.
 
balamw said:
Be a darling and just buy her as many of the 50 songs as you can find on iTunes from the phone.

Problem solved. ;)
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This is by far the easiest and cheapest way to get her music to her iPhone without causing conflicts. ;)

HaHa really? The computer is still running strong? Guess we got a good one. Is it normal for computer components to work without ever being replaced for 13 years? I mean everything is original inside the computer.
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Normal or usual? Likely not. Possible? Certainly. In my experience, first things to go are HDD, PSU, MB and RAM. However, we've got a number of Dells with Pentium III 500 MHz running XP (that are finally being scrapped, thank goodness) that still have all their original parts.
 
BlueMoonForever said:
Definitely looking into that option as well. But she just loves the computer.
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Huh? If you gift her the music on iTunes, then she doesn't need to connect her iPhone to the computer. Just download the songs directly on the iPhone. Problem solved.
 
Why doesn't the OP setup their own iTunes account and then purchase iTunes match?
The the OP can use whichever computer he/she chooses to upload all of Grandma's songs to the cloud.
Then setup Grandma's phone with that same iTunes ID.
Problem solved.
 
Which iTunes for Windows Millennium?

Buy her a new computer, connect the old screen, keyboard and other devices using adapters. Make sure the new Windows has about the same look & feel, i.e. same wallpaper, same username, same shortcuts&icons on her desktop. If she doesn't like that, tell her it's simply not possible. Sorry, no music on her good'ol desktop computer ;-)
 
BlueMoonForever said:
The computer costs about $2500. It really works fine. You guys are making windows me out to be this horrible outdated os. It's really not bad. But nonetheless, she will not give the computer up until it doesn't work anymore. Xp is still widely used on today's computers, so why is it so surprising to use an OS that is one year older? It's still going strong. Go figure.
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If she insists on using that computer, you'll need to look at alternatives. She can upload her music via Google Play and stream her music with the Google Play app. If she just wants to listen to music, there's also Spotify and Pandora.

All options I've listed are streaming options, so you'll have to either ensure that she's on WIFI or has a decent data plan.

Another option, is to copy all of her music to your computer; you import them into iTunes using her account info, and then sign her up for iTunes Match.
 
BlueMoonForever said:
HaHa really? The computer is still running strong? Guess we got a good one. Is it normal for computer components to work without ever being replaced for 13 years? I mean everything is original inside the computer.
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At the very least I'm surprised the clock isn't resetting every time she turns it off. There's a battery on the motherboard that keeps the clock running when it's off. It's just a watch battery, and lasts about as long as a digital watch. It's easy to replace, but most people don't know that's the issue or are too intimidated to open their case. As for other components, Google has found that the average hard drive only lasts around 5 years. That hers has lasted almost three times as long is impressive.

Gjwilly said:
Why doesn't the OP setup their own iTunes account and then purchase iTunes match?
The the OP can use whichever computer he/she chooses to upload all of Grandma's songs to the cloud.
Then setup Grandma's phone with that same iTunes ID.
Problem solved.
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I thought of this too, but then the OP mentioned that she only has 50 songs. Paying $25/year doesn't seem worth it for that.

BlueMoonForever said:
Yeah that's what I am looking into.
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Again, seems a little cost prohibitive since that will cost around $50 (assuming $0.99 per song and not $1.29). I would find a way to copy the songs onto another computer, either with a USB drive or burn the files onto a CD-ROM. Then, as others have suggested, do a onetime sync with that computer to get then onto the iPhone.

As for getting her off that computer, I think you've got to right attitude of not forcing her to do anything she doesn't want to do. I say, let her learn the iPhone at her own pace. Your grandma is clearly interested in learning new things, and I'm guessing she's not as stubborn as some in this thread are assuming she is. To me it sounds like her attitude is more along the lines of "If it ain't broke don't fix it." There might be things she's missing out on that she doesn't realize she can do. Over time she'll discover this on her own as long as she has the opportunity, which the iPhone gives her. Some gentle suggestions from her grandchild might help too. :)

If she likes the iPhone, I would suggest you get her an iPad and tell her it's just like her iPhone but with a bigger screen. Over time I bet you'll find she uses the PC less and less.

Another option to get her to upgrade the computer is to entice her with convenience. Her old computer is a desktop. Ask her something like "Wouldn't it be great if you didn't always have to sit at that desk when you wanted to use the computer? If you had a laptop you could use it where ever you wanted to." Follow that up with the idea that the old computer will still be there if she wants it.
 
Why does Grandma need a 5S? - wouldn't it be much cheaper for all to get a early 2000s Nokia (which can play the 50 songs) but is about $600 cheaper (off contract of course).
 
joshisaboss said:
Why does Grandma need a 5S? - wouldn't it be much cheaper for all to get a early 2000s Nokia (which can play the 50 songs) but is about $600 cheaper (off contract of course).
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My grandma has passed away. The computer will be donated to good will.
 
BlueMoonForever said:
My grandma has passed away. The computer will be donated to good will.
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Sorry to hear. Make sure you erase the hard drive!!

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parseckadet said:
At the very least I'm surprised the clock isn't resetting every time she turns it off. There's a battery on the motherboard that keeps the clock running when it's off.
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The computer is connected to the internet. It gets the time from Microsoft's server.
 
parseckadet said:
At the very least I'm surprised the clock isn't resetting every time she turns it off. There's a battery on the motherboard that keeps the clock running when it's off.
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That's not to say that the OP hasn't changed the CMOS battery at least once or twice in the PC's life - which he may or may not have. Sometimes they last a really long time.
 
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