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how is it that people are still spouting this nonsense?

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Galaxy note 8 recorded at 1200 nits
iPhone X recorded at 625 nits

However, this site says differently:
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-x-oled-screen-vs-pixel-2-note-8,review-4807.html

And yet Displaymate confirms the 1200 nits.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_N...24.1256370394.1511987189-683989486.1511987189

Toms guide does sound like an apple commercial. I will go with Displaymate.
 
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Is this correct?

Galaxy note 8 recorded at 1200 nits
iPhone X recorded at 625 nits

However, this site says differently:
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-x-oled-screen-vs-pixel-2-note-8,review-4807.html

And yet Displaymate confirms the 1200 nits.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_N...24.1256370394.1511987189-683989486.1511987189

Toms guide does sound like an apple commercial. I will go with Displaymate.

If you actually read the displaymate article, you'll find the 1200 nits value is extremely situational. They report peak brightness values w/ 1% of the screen being white w/ auto boost on - this is absolutely not representative of day to day use. In day to day use, the iPhone will be brighter. Displaymate itself says as much.

The issue is that people aren't taking the time to actually understand displaymate's (admittedly complicated) data.
 
If you actually read the displaymate article, you'll find the 1200 nits value is extremely situational. They report peak brightness values w/ 1% of the screen being white w/ auto boost on - this is absolutely not representative of day to day use. In day to day use, the iPhone will be brighter. Displaymate itself says as much.

The issue is that people aren't taking the time to actually understand displaymate's (admittedly complicated) data.

Thanks love. That's why I said I will go with Disaplymates data.
 
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If you actually read the displaymate article, you'll find the 1200 nits value is extremely situational. They report peak brightness values w/ 1% of the screen being white w/ auto boost on - this is absolutely not representative of day to day use. In day to day use, the iPhone will be brighter. Displaymate itself says as much.

The issue is that people aren't taking the time to actually understand displaymate's (admittedly complicated) data.

I was thinking the same thing. People keep throwing that garbage 1200 nit number around when the chances of a user seeing are little to none. If I have learned anything from Apple over the years, they are not being something to market hardware wise (won’t even discuss iOS and macOS because we all know what those are right now) until they know for sure it’s the best or one of the best in the market. Examples Retina display, TouchID, FaceID, and now the OLED. They just don’t bring garbage to their products. They knew they had something special with this screen.
 
I was thinking the same thing. People keep throwing that garbage 1200 nit number around when the chances of a user seeing are little to none. If I have learned anything from Apple over the years, they are not being something to market hardware wise (won’t even discuss iOS and macOS because we all know what those are right now) until they know for sure it’s the best or one of the best in the market. Examples Retina display, TouchID, FaceID, and now the OLED. They just don’t bring garbage to their products. They knew they had something special with this screen.

Yup. 1200 nits is peak brightness at <2% - this could find some use in certain HDR movie scenes and that’s it.

As far as I know, iPhone X has the only 600+ nit mobile OLED screen at the moment. It *is* brighter. However, even if Samsung was brighter, I still wouldn’t prefer it because of kitsch colors.
 
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I agree the nits measurement comparison is probably apples to oranges. Lab measurements vs real life etc. I don't get caught up in that, unless I'm comparing two products where everything else is so close that the particular spec is the only real difference.

To me it's simple. The X has a terrific display. Best yet on an iPhone. Potentially better than Samsung phones depending on your point of view on calibration. It's calibrated for accuracy. I prefer that. It is plenty capable of displaying punchy, highly saturated images if you happen to pull one up (say by playing the latest Lego movie in HDR). It's a great screen.
 
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I agree the nits measurement comparison is probably apples to oranges. Lab measurements vs real life etc. I don't get caught up in that, unless I'm comparing two products where everything else is so close that the particular spec is the only real difference.

To me it's simple. The X has a terrific display. Best yet on an iPhone. Potentially better than Samsung phones depending on your point of view on calibration. It's calibrated for accuracy. I prefer that. It is plenty capable of displaying punchy, highly saturated images if you happen to pull one up (say by playing the latest Lego movie in HDR). It's a great screen.

Look at this video on brightness. Just jump to 6.20 min mark and you will see how much brighter note8 display than ipx.

Note is still better display. It is much sharper than ipx. Indoor the brightness is a moot point but in outdoor when brightness is critical, note8 just leaves ipx in the dust.

 
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Look at this video on brightness. Just jump to 5.40 min mark and you will see how much brighter note8 display than ipx.

Note is still better display. It is much sharper than ipx. Indoor the brightness is a moot point but in outdoor when brightness is critical, note8 just leaves ipx in the dust.


You’re kidding, right? iPhone X is clearly brighter, the guy even says it several times in the video (5:45)
 
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You’re kidding, right? iPhone X is clearly brighter, the guy even says it in the video.

Sorry, it is at 6.20min mark in the video, when he shines a bright light on the 2 phones and note8 brightness goes way higher than ipx.

Indoor it doesn't matter. Both phones are equal. Nobody will turn up 100% brightness. And note8 is noticeably sharper.
 
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Sorry, it is at 6.20min mark in the video, when he shines a bright light on the 2 phones and note8 brightness goes way higher than ipx.

Indoor it doesn't matter. Both phones are equal. Nobody will turn up 100% brightness. And note8 is noticeably sharper.

So you show us a video where the author mentions how iPhone has a brighter screen three times, also says X has better color reproduction and better sharpness - and shows one case where Samsung does the peak brightness (can’t hold it for long) thing instead of sustained, and you claim the Samsung screen is better?

Sammy is doing this all the time. TVs too. Peak vs sustained. In reality, while surfing the web, watching a HDR movie, etc. inside or outside, iPhone X will be around 150 nits brighter. That’s just how it is. That’s not even important, but it is how it is. Note does not have a brighter screen.

As for sharpness, I don’t really know what you mean. Both look equally sharp to my eyes, but if you can see the difference, fine.

I just like the iPhone X screen more, and it’s not even close. That’s subjective. I totally get that some people prefer the Note. And while I don’t think it’s important that X is brighter - it’s how things are.

If you like the Note screen more - that’s all that should matter to you, man. I don’t mean this sarcastically.
 
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Look at this video on brightness. Just jump to 6.20 min mark and you will see how much brighter note8 display than ipx.

Note is still better display. It is much sharper than ipx. Indoor the brightness is a moot point but in outdoor when brightness is critical, note8 just leaves ipx in the dust.


Are you serious? The guy shines an LED on the Samsung with auto brightness on, but nothing to the X. The same will happen with the X. If you turn auto brightness on and put it in direct sunlight, it gets brighter as well. Crazy right? Samsung fan boys are insufferable.
 
Are you serious? The guy shines an LED on the Samsung with auto brightness on, but nothing to the X. The same will happen with the X. If you turn auto brightness on and put it in direct sunlight, it gets brighter as well. Crazy right? Samsung fan boys are insufferable.

Note 8 can hit around 800 nits or so in bright light for around 10s. And 1200 in a small area for a short time. iPhone doesn’t do something it can’t sustain.

Full screen sustained brightness is 600 vs 400 nits in favor of the iPhone.
 
Note 8 can hit around 800 nits or so in bright light for around 10s. And 1200 in a small area for a short time. iPhone doesn’t do something it can’t sustain.

Full screen sustained brightness is 600 vs 400 nits in favor of the iPhone.

Great good for the Note 8. You can hit 1200 nits in less than 1% of the time anyone ever uses it. Again the video was a joke because we can’t see truly how bright the iPhone gets. Auto brightness in direct light both get brighter. Stop spitting out these useless numbers and give hard real world evidence. The video was trash, and the numbers game is trash.
 
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So you show us a video where the author mentions how iPhone has a brighter screen three times, also says X has better color reproduction and better sharpness - and shows one case where Samsung does the peak brightness thing instead of sustained (you do know it can’t hold this brightness longer than 10 or so seconds, right? Useful for a quick glance, but that’s it) and you claim the Samsung screen is better?

Sammy is doing this all the time. TVs too. Peak vs sustained. In reality, while surfing the web, watching a movie, etc. inside or outside, iPhone X will be around 150 nits brighter. That’s just how it is. That’s not even important, but it is how it is. Note does not have a brighter screen.

As for sharpness, I don’t really know what you mean. Both look equally sharp to my eyes, but if you can see the difference, fine.

I just like the iPhone X screen more, and it’s not even close. That’s subjective. I totally get that some people prefer the Note. And while I don’t think it’s important that X is brighter - it’s how things are.

If you like the Note screen more - that’s all that should matter to you, man. I don’t mean this sarcastically.

Some here goes on and on about brightness. Yes, indoor if you turn both phones to 100%, ipx is brighter but that is a moot point. But note8 brightness can go far beyond 100% that user can set using the brightness slider. In sunlight where it really matters note8 is better.

And you are wrong. Note8 can hold that super brightness as long as sunlight is intense. My S8+ works that way in sunlight.

Look at the text. Ipx text looks more fuzzy than note 8.
 
Great good for the Note 8. You can hit 1200 nits in less than 1% of the time anyone ever uses it. Again the video was a joke because we can’t see truly how bright the iPhone gets. Auto brightness in direct light both get brighter. Stop spitting out these useless numbers and give hard real world evidence. The video was trash, and the numbers game is trash.

Even in that trash video, the author admits the iPhone is a better display 🙂

I still claim it comes down to taste, but I love how Samsung fans are trying to paint Note display as objectively better.
 
Note 8 can hit around 800 nits or so in bright light for around 10s. And 1200 in a small area for a short time. iPhone doesn’t do something it can’t sustain.

Full screen sustained brightness is 600 vs 400 nits in favor of the iPhone.

What small area? In the video, the whole note8 screen lit up brighter.
 
Some here goes on and on about brightness. Yes, indoor if you turn both phones to 100%, ipx is brighter but that is a moot point. But note8 brightness can go far beyond 100% that user can set using the brightness slider. In sunlight where it really matters note8 is better.

And you are wrong. Note8 can hold that super brightness as long as sunlight is intense. My S8+ works that way in sunlight.

Look at the text. Ipx text looks more fuzzy than note 8.

Ok, to be honest, I never tested the Note I used in extreme sunlight, it’s just what I read. In the time I did try them side by side, X was always brighter. A friend and I watched Godless on Netflix on both, and the night scene with a handheld light in episode 1 - just looks better on X. That bulb cuts into your eyeballs.

As for sharpness, I can only tell you that I didn’t notice a difference on text, but maybe you see something I don’t.

And again, I still claim it all mostly comes down to taste. Both are fine, people prefer one or the other. But if you really insist on comparing technical capabilities, iPhone probably wins.
 
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Even in that trash video, the author admits the iPhone is a better display 🙂

I still claim it comes down to taste, but I love how Samsung fans are trying to paint Note display as objectively better.

Oh absolutely! Yeah he said that several times.

Yeah if you want the extremely saturated colors, go with the Note 8.
 
What small area? In the video, the whole note8 screen lit up brighter.

Yes, I said around 800 nits which is brighter. And 1200 on small areas.

Haven’t tested this, though. Only tried them under normal conditions, both inside and outside. iPhone was brighter.

Look, why is this so important to you? If you prefer the Note screen, use that one and enjoy! It is a different screen and you have every right to prefer it. You’re not wrong about liking it more, it just doesn’t magically apply to everyone.
 
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What small area? In the video, the whole note8 screen lit up brighter.

Read the comment fully before posting. He was saying the guy in the video still after that said the iPhone was a better overall display. Brightness is only part of quality of the display.
 
Read the comment fully before posting. He was saying the guy in the video still after that said the iPhone was a better overall display. Brightness is only part of quality of the display.

The guy in the video, he is a kid who has only used Iphones. So?

The point is Note8 has the brighter screen when it is needed not when it is not needed unlike Ipx
 
The guy in the video, he is a kid who has only used Iphones. So?

The point is Note8 has the brighter screen when it is needed not when it is not needed unlike Ipx

Yeah since I was taking anything this kid said into account.

Yeah that is such a fantastic point . This makes all the difference in the world. Now I need to return my X and go get a Note 8 because it might get brighter then X in direct sunlight. Seriously who gives a damn if the Note 8 gets slightly brighter outside? My X is plenty fine for me anywhere I use it. This is pointless to me.
 
Yeah since I was taking anything this kid said into account.

Yeah that is such a fantastic point . This makes all the difference in the world. Now I need to return my X and go get a Note 8 because it might get brighter then X in direct sunlight. Seriously who gives a damn if the Note 8 gets slightly brighter outside? My X is plenty fine for me anywhere I use it. This is pointless to me.

It is pointless to say color accuracy too. Displaymate said in Basic mode, Note 8 gets "Very Good" accuracy. So "Very Good" becomes cartoonish/poor/over-saturated according to Ifans...that's just pure bias and hypocritical. What is not bias is Note8 can get MUCH brighter than ipx in sunlight and that's fact.
 
It is pointless to say color accuracy too. Displaymate said in Basic mode, Note 8 gets "Very Good" accuracy. So "Very Good" becomes cartoonish/poor/over-saturated according to Ifans...that's just pure bias and hypocritical. What is not bias is Note8 can get MUCH brighter than ipx in sunlight and that's fact.

Ok, sure whatever you say. You prefer the screen style of the Note 8. That is great for you. I personally prefer the iPhone X display and the colors that Apple calibrates it to. It looks very close to the colors I see with my own two eyes when they are not looking at a screen. I would prefer to not have to mess with setting to make my display look this way, or at least close to it. I like having right out of the box.

I am not really sure how many times I have to say this, but I don’t care at all that the Note 8 gets brighter at some point. And that is the nice way to say that without getting a warning on this forum. I simply do not care, so you and any other Note 8 users can keep preaching this garbage, but I don’t care. My X does me just fine in the brightness area.
 
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