And tariffs are not?This is not a tariff, this is extortion
And tariffs are not?This is not a tariff, this is extortion
You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.If US companies don't want to be fined for breaking the law, perhaps obeying the law would be a better strategy than risking it, getting caught and then having your president throw a tantrum about how it's 'not fair', like a 3 year-old who isn't allowed a second icecream.
When Apple violates EU law, they should be fined based only on the sales in the EU.
It's not about earnings in the EU. Apple reports its sales in the EU and the fines should apply to EU sales.
In my opinion, the EU fining Apple based on total sales is primarily a money grab.
As someone whose company just received a British built $400k piece of equipment, poorly designed and terrible to work on. Please don’t. Also, do you get some kind of government stimulus for every snap ring and acorn nut over standard nut you implement?As a EU citizen I’m happy with the freedom and choices that are the direct result of the DMA.
But as the EU and US have fundamentally different views on privacy, platform interoperability, consumer rights, … the best way forward is to develop our own tech.
Then EU citizens can choose between EU and US platforms. And there’s no need for fines anymore as the latter won’t have a gatekeeper function anymore.
Apple is firmly of the opinion that they are obeying the law, and the regulators are the ones who are interpreting it incorrectly. And since the EU courts haven't weighed in, Apple very well may be right.You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.
They had it coming!!! Secretly extorting us for billions in Linux mascot licensing fees 🤣😂Extortion? This is the same White House that imposed tariffs on penguins.
“economic extortion”?
Can this White House please, at minimum, tone down the inflammatory rhetoric? I get that it’s Trump’s whole thing to an extent, but the normalization of it just feels bad.
Tim's getting some mileage out of that million bucks, for sure!
I assume the White House arguments go both ways, so EU companies are not exposed to tariffs? Yes?
As a EU citizen I’m happy with the freedom and choices that are the direct result of the DMA.
But as the EU and US have fundamentally different views on privacy, platform interoperability, consumer rights, … the best way forward is to develop our own tech.
Then EU citizens can choose between EU and US platforms. And there’s no need for fines anymore as the latter won’t have a gatekeeper function anymore.
I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.Apple is firmly of the opinion that they are obeying the law, and the regulators are the ones who are interpreting it incorrectly. And since the EU courts haven't weighed in, Apple very well may be right.
Many of us Europeans are happy as well... the wannabe MAGAstan Brits always pompously whining and moaning were stinkin' up the EU... now if we could dump Hungary. (edit correct spelling)so happy I voted to leave the EU in the UK with brexit, the EU need shutting down
The EU has a right to implement their own laws / fines but why is Apple fined based on its total earnings rather than the earnings it makes in the EU ?
100% correct. The DMA allows them to fund themselves under the spices of control of information.These "laws" are ad hoc tactics by cash hungry governments. If you actually read the DMA it becomes so evident that this is nothing more than targeting the US cash cow.
Speaking of money, when are EU nations going to start paying their fair share of NATO?
Always the hypocrites.
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WHAT? Seems to me that the removal of anti-free speech laws is consistent.
Extortion? This is the same White House that imposed tariffs on penguins.
A court in the US said Apple had to let developers inform users that cheaper ways to subscribe existed in app, but the US did not say Apple isn't allowed to require a commission if a user clicks on a link in an app downloaded from the App Store so the developer can avoid paying Apple for the intellectual property it uses to make its app.I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.
Are you really ignorant of Huawei's purpose in the world?And USA can block Huawei in all the world?. Double moral.
Correct because the EU instated tarrifs against the US first in addition to "non-tariff barriers" include intellectual property rules, environmental and digital regulations, licensing requirements and, in some cases, "corruption." Such as the nonsense going against Apple and others.And tariffs are not?
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you hate how every website you go on has MASSIVE popups about cookies that you have to fill in every single time. Thank the EU for that. The EU says I have to allow my users to delete their data, however our app is a medical app which we are required to keep records for 7 years per federal law. Which means I can be fined 300k+ for every user that wishes to delete their data but I cant let them due to US laws.You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.
Its really that simple. Especially one devoting 500 billion dollars to build manufacturing plants in the US (a huge part of his agenda)Trump is backing an American company. This should surprise no one.
They did make the changes but they got fined anyways. The EU routinely crushes American companies and protects EU monopolies such as spotify. The rules are so vague and open ended intentionally so no matter what apple does short of making the entire OS free and open source the EU will fine them regardless.I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.
Frankly I’m shocked this is getting any oxygen at all in current environment. This is so low on the EU/US totem poll of important things. Apple is a luxury device company. Virtually nothing Apple makes is vital.
"MAGAstan"? Really? Why can't people like you talk normal. 6 year old children can articulate arguments better then half of these political extremists.Many of us Europeans are happy as well... the wannabe MAGAstan Brits always pompously whining and moaning were stinkin' up the EU... now if we could dump Hungray.
Apple got fined after due process... but I guess Americans and especially the Trump types aren't familiar with the concept of legal due process
Not a good analogy is what I'm saying.The EU doing exactly the same, requiring any developer access to Apple Critical systems. The iPhone will not crash your car. However, could drain your bank account.