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If US companies don't want to be fined for breaking the law, perhaps obeying the law would be a better strategy than risking it, getting caught and then having your president throw a tantrum about how it's 'not fair', like a 3 year-old who isn't allowed a second icecream.
You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.
 
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Quite honestly, Apple should voluntarily withdraw their iOS products from the EU over their draconian laws of competition and see how the (former & current) Apple customers react to the loss of Apple iOS / iPadOS / Apple Watch products.

PRIVACY is certainly one of my priorities in my data and how it’s handled.

EU, the Choice is simple — keep your grubby hands out of the Apple Secure Garden or allow customers in the EU to only buy android-based products. See how that goes over with the EU Voters come election time!
 
When Apple violates EU law, they should be fined based only on the sales in the EU.

It's not about earnings in the EU. Apple reports its sales in the EU and the fines should apply to EU sales.

In my opinion, the EU fining Apple based on total sales is primarily a money grab.

This is absurd logic when you realize that it means big companies will never bother complying with the law.

Ex:
If my revenue in your country is 10 and my global revenue is 10,000,000,000 then you could fine me 100% of the revenue in your country and it wouldn't make an iota of difference to my behaviour. It's too small to matter. That is why ti is based on global revenue. If it is not then the company can just treat the fine as another cost of doing business without changing their behaviour.
Fines need to be large enough to actually change behaviour or else they are worthless.
 
As a EU citizen I’m happy with the freedom and choices that are the direct result of the DMA.

But as the EU and US have fundamentally different views on privacy, platform interoperability, consumer rights, … the best way forward is to develop our own tech.

Then EU citizens can choose between EU and US platforms. And there’s no need for fines anymore as the latter won’t have a gatekeeper function anymore.
As someone whose company just received a British built $400k piece of equipment, poorly designed and terrible to work on. Please don’t. Also, do you get some kind of government stimulus for every snap ring and acorn nut over standard nut you implement?
 
You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.
Apple is firmly of the opinion that they are obeying the law, and the regulators are the ones who are interpreting it incorrectly. And since the EU courts haven't weighed in, Apple very well may be right.
 
“economic extortion”?

Can this White House please, at minimum, tone down the inflammatory rhetoric? I get that it’s Trump’s whole thing to an extent, but the normalization of it just feels bad.

That seems to be a very accurate way to describe it. How would you more accurately name it?
 
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As a EU citizen I’m happy with the freedom and choices that are the direct result of the DMA.

But as the EU and US have fundamentally different views on privacy, platform interoperability, consumer rights, … the best way forward is to develop our own tech.

Then EU citizens can choose between EU and US platforms. And there’s no need for fines anymore as the latter won’t have a gatekeeper function anymore.

umm..... what?
 
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Apple is firmly of the opinion that they are obeying the law, and the regulators are the ones who are interpreting it incorrectly. And since the EU courts haven't weighed in, Apple very well may be right.
I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.

Frankly I’m shocked this is getting any oxygen at all in current environment. This is so low on the EU/US totem poll of important things. Apple is a luxury device company. Virtually nothing Apple makes is vital.
 
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so happy I voted to leave the EU in the UK with brexit, the EU need shutting down
Many of us Europeans are happy as well... the wannabe MAGAstan Brits always pompously whining and moaning were stinkin' up the EU... now if we could dump Hungary. (edit correct spelling)

Apple got fined after due process... but I guess Americans and especially the Trump types aren't familiar with the concept of legal due process
 
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Yup, this is absurd... but why does anyone believe that the US and the US only is allowed to engage in stupid and destructive trade policies?
 
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These "laws" are ad hoc tactics by cash hungry governments. If you actually read the DMA it becomes so evident that this is nothing more than targeting the US cash cow.

Speaking of money, when are EU nations going to start paying their fair share of NATO?
100% correct. The DMA allows them to fund themselves under the spices of control of information.
 
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Apple should let the Europeans decide for themselves what level of privacy and security they want on their Apple products. Apple's privacy and security excuse is weak.

The current Donald White House is practicing extortion and stock manipulation. White House condemnation concerning "extortion" is a ridiculous sick joke.
 
I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.
A court in the US said Apple had to let developers inform users that cheaper ways to subscribe existed in app, but the US did not say Apple isn't allowed to require a commission if a user clicks on a link in an app downloaded from the App Store so the developer can avoid paying Apple for the intellectual property it uses to make its app.

It also didn't fine Apple $500m for refusing to read its mind when complying with the letter for law.
 
And tariffs are not?
Correct because the EU instated tarrifs against the US first in addition to "non-tariff barriers" include intellectual property rules, environmental and digital regulations, licensing requirements and, in some cases, "corruption." Such as the nonsense going against Apple and others.
You’re absolutely this “unfair” tantrum is unbecoming and immature from a multi trillion dollar company that has even more stringent rules for developers and users of its platform than the EU does.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you hate how every website you go on has MASSIVE popups about cookies that you have to fill in every single time. Thank the EU for that. The EU says I have to allow my users to delete their data, however our app is a medical app which we are required to keep records for 7 years per federal law. Which means I can be fined 300k+ for every user that wishes to delete their data but I cant let them due to US laws.

If you spit in their general direction you get slammed with massive fines.
Trump is backing an American company. This should surprise no one.
Its really that simple. Especially one devoting 500 billion dollars to build manufacturing plants in the US (a huge part of his agenda)
I think apple was also required to make these fixes in the US regarding anti-steering provisions right? Really weird for US and EU to require these fixes but the US gets upset when EU enforces it. This needs to be handled maturely.

Frankly I’m shocked this is getting any oxygen at all in current environment. This is so low on the EU/US totem poll of important things. Apple is a luxury device company. Virtually nothing Apple makes is vital.
They did make the changes but they got fined anyways. The EU routinely crushes American companies and protects EU monopolies such as spotify. The rules are so vague and open ended intentionally so no matter what apple does short of making the entire OS free and open source the EU will fine them regardless.

Not to mention their changes are horrible. Safari is the only competing browser to the Google Chrome monopoly. EU forces apple to let users select a browser and make it easier for the current monopoly to grow even larger.
Many of us Europeans are happy as well... the wannabe MAGAstan Brits always pompously whining and moaning were stinkin' up the EU... now if we could dump Hungray.

Apple got fined after due process... but I guess Americans and especially the Trump types aren't familiar with the concept of legal due process
"MAGAstan"? Really? Why can't people like you talk normal. 6 year old children can articulate arguments better then half of these political extremists.

Also what due process? What are you even talking about.
 
As he wanted to show, the leader of the McCarthyists spoke out against the foreign institution in a private law diatribe.

Maccartists because calling you fascists is doing you a favor.
 
The EU doing exactly the same, requiring any developer access to Apple Critical systems. The iPhone will not crash your car. However, could drain your bank account.
Not a good analogy is what I'm saying.
I know plenty of people that have Carplay in their older cars, it doesn't require you to allow access to the cars internal systems.
Not even remotely close to being the same.
 
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