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Exactly, whats silly is the "ALL are thicker" or "NONE are thicker" garbage. It's clearly a QA issue Apple is having with the phones...which I think is sad given the time it took for them to release. :(

Yep. Probably an accidental run of back plates made with slightly thicker than spec glass. The difference in thickness is not significant enough that someone is going to notice during the assembly or packaging process, so it wouldn't necessarily have been caught until after shipment.

(I say back plates, because all the side-by-side comparisons have the metal band appearing at the same place in the photos, with only the back to account for the difference in thickness.)
 
it is so....

It is not thicker, don't believe all the junk you see.

I have the white and the black iPhone 4 and the white one is slightly thicker. The front glass plate has a raised perimeter "lip" that prevents the front face from coming in contact with a smooth surface if you place it face down, my black iPhone 4 does not. Incidentally - this makes it almost impossible to put the antiglare screen protecting plastic on, as the edges are always pushed ever-so-slightly up unless it is perfectly centered.
 
I can most definitely believe this.

I've personally witnessed the rather dramatic decline in Apple quality control over the last year.

It's unlike ever before and very discouraging.

Give me a break... I've heard this claim over and over and over and over for more years than I care to admit. It's as if there was once upon a time Apple released perfect products without any glitches whatsoever, but now everything they release is plagued with problems.

It's a fact... nearly every product line Apple has ever released has had its hiccups, whether it's overheating computers, faulty logic boards, problems with displays, adhesives etc etc.

You haven't witnessed any sort of dramatic decline in Apple's QC... you just like to believe that you have.
 
The camera units are the same. The one installed in the photo just has a removable foam piece for light insulation. It exists on the black iPhone 4 as well.
 
It's clear that some iPhone 4s are thicker. (see engadget photo)

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I don't think so.

I think clear photo's showing calipers proves they are the same.

The poor photo's with zero depth of field and a stick off the side to compare thickness doesn't cut it.

Get them to put the calipers to it.


Some Apple big guy says don't believe all the junk your read, and that clinches it for me. It's pretty much an Apple statement telling you that they are the same.

So you still believe engadget on this?


(if there is some production issue like a swelling lipo battery, then I could see thickness issues, but it's a huge mistake if they made it different thickness. What the heck would I do with my iPhone4 dock?)
 
White is thicker

Over the weekend I was in the Philly Walnut store to see just how much thicker the white was over the black. You can instantly notice the white phone was thicker and my friend said, "wow and it feels heavier too."

Basically what Phil is saying people, it's all an illusion. Don't trust your eyes or any other measurements. :confused:
 
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It's pretty clear that the lens is in a deeper "well" in the white model. This is consistent with the rumor that light was impinging on the camera in the white model. What you need to do is limit all light that isn't coming from directly in front of the lens. No light from the side, and definitely no light from the inside of the camera. The way to fight it if you have an SLR? Invest in an old fashioned thing called a bellows, which shields the lens from any light that isn't coming from the area you can focus on, and which doesn't do anything but add glare or make blacks in the picture more like dark gray. This deeper camera acts like a bellows, I presume, blocking any light coming through the white, more translucent body.

I believe that's also what the little aluminum trim ring around the camera sensor is used for too to block out the light from the translucent body and the LED flash. The prototype iPhone 4 never had that ring I believe.
 
I don't think so.

I think clear photo's showing calipers proves they are the same.

The poor photo's with zero depth of field and a stick off the side to compare thickness doesn't cut it.

Get them to put the calipers to it.


Some Apple big guy says don't believe all the junk your read, and that clinches it for me. It's pretty much an Apple statement telling you that they are the same.

So you still believe engadget on this?


(if there is some production issue like a swelling lipo battery, then I could see thickness issues, but it's a huge mistake if they made it different thickness. What the heck would I do with my iPhone4 dock?)

tipb used calipers and found a difference. Otterbox also says there are compatibility issues. They're in the business of selling cases, they wouldn't tell customers not to buy them for no reason. If it's not supposed to be thicker, then there are a few possibilities I can think of:

1) There was a bad batch that went around. The white iPhone certainly seemed to have its hiccups - many of them came a with a test version of the OS

2) Apple revised *all* iPhone 4s, and the only reason people are noticing a difference is because they compared to a near launch phone. It'd be interesting to compare a black one from the same week.
 
Inase Snap Case problem

I just activated my first iPhone (white) a few hours ago on VZW. The clear Incase Snap Case I bought for it a week ahead of time DOES NOT FIT...no matter how hard I try. It seems the white lip is bigger than the black lip, and this is the part the snap case secures to. Anyone else find this?
 
It's pretty clear that the lens is in a deeper "well" in the white model. This is consistent with the rumor that light was impinging on the camera in the white model. What you need to do is limit all light that isn't coming from directly in front of the lens. No light from the side, and definitely no light from the inside of the camera. The way to fight it if you have an SLR? Invest in an old fashioned thing called a bellows, which shields the lens from any light that isn't coming from the area you can focus on, and which doesn't do anything but add glare or make blacks in the picture more like dark gray. This deeper camera acts like a bellows, I presume, blocking any light coming through the white, more translucent body.
As mentioned, a bellows does not surround a lens, it is a means to alter magnification. In fact, a bellows (or the portion of a modern macro lens that is equivalent to a bellows) will not have any lens elements in it at all.
I believe that's also what the little aluminum trim ring around the camera sensor is used for too to block out the light from the translucent body and the LED flash. The prototype iPhone 4 never had that ring I believe.
It's all just ridiculous. The lens blocks light itself. No lens is simply glass, it would never work at all, who would make such a stupid product? How would it hold together? A lens, esp in the case of a large SLR lens, is many glass/plastic elements. Here's a standard lens, look at the diagram at the bottom of the 8 elements and the positioning. (and there must be at least 2 in the iPhone lens) They have to be held in their respective positions by something around the outside. The suggestions of "light leakage" imply that the surrounding material would have to be translucent....what, more glass? Transparent aluminum? :rolleyes: The photo in the OP clearly shows black plastic and silver metal as the lens surround, independent from the rest of the phone or the color of the phone.

Look at that picture. The lens on the left has more plastic in it, which I suppose could block light more easily than less, but that's the one from a black phone. Shouldn't it be the other way around for this theory to have any teeth at all? It's probably just a newly or differently sourced lens, and if they took apart new black phones they'd find the same newer one in some of those.




The thickness issue is within manufacturing tolerances, I would guess. Again, if we could measure each and every brand new phone, we'd no doubt be able to find a black one that is thicker than a white one. This is the problem for case makers, always has been. What no one is thinking about is the size of the cases, those also will have some size variation within the same model line.
 
If I had to guess why some white iPhone 4s look thicker, I'd say it's because eBay scammers bought aftermarket white parts, put them on black iPhones and sold them as factory white iPhones.

/common sense.
 
While I don't deny that some may be thicker - mine appears the same as my old black iPhone and two of my friends.
 
I just measured my iPhone 4 in black and white.

The white one is 9.0mm.

The black one is 9.3mm.

:confused:
 
Seriously, this is what people are complaining about it? Grow up. What a waste of a complaint.
 
White iPhone seemed thicker

I went to the Apple store with my Steadicam Smoothee and its iPhone 4 camera holder.

The holder is about as tight a fit as you could ever make for the iPhone 4. So I tried mounting a white iPhone 4 into it.

It was definitely tighter than my black iPhone 4. I didn't want to force it, so I just left it at that.
 
My new white iphone 4 is thicker than my brother's black iphone 4.
Anyone get a case yet? If so let me know which ones fit please :)
 
It's thicker...

I measured with a caliper, it's 0.373 on my white iPhone 4. Definitely thicker than the black one.
 
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