Who cares about wireless charging

[Lloydbm41]

If Apple uses Qi, you won't have to.

It's not the time, it's the convenience. In the dark. Or, I use my old Nexus5 as a permanent control for my Sonos system. sits on a stand up wireless stand. I can pick it up, walk around the house, then just place it back on the stand, no fumbling with wires,

Apple has already gone ahead and screwed everyone over. Their Qi charging pads will require proprietary approval, MFi certified, or the phone won't take the charge. Not to mention Apple has purposely retarded the iPhone 8 to onlky accept 7.5W charge, halving the fast charge capability. Yeah for Apple screwing over its customers yet again. Why have 1 standard, when Apple can monetize it for themselves and cause hundreds of manufacturers to create 2 separate products.... one for Apple and one for the rest of the world.

 

[ANDJOE]

The biggest strike against existing wireless charging technology isn’t speed, It’s the fact that you have to have the phone in a specific stationary position in order to charge. This makes it less convenient than wired charging which still allows much freedom of positioning.
However I once saw a man at an airport talking on his android phone while holding the phone and inductive charger up to his ear.

 

[Lloydbm41]

The biggest strike against existing wireless charging technology isn’t speed, It’s the fact that you have to have the phone in a specific stationary position in order to charge. This makes it less convenient than wired charging which still allows much freedom of positioning.
However I once saw a man at an airport talking on his android phone while holding the phone and inductive charger up to his ear.

People make this seem like an either or situation. As in, you either have to use wireless charging or you have to use wired charging. You people do realize you can use both, depending upon your needs or situation? People also act like if the phone is on a wirelews chqrging pad that it cant be used. This is horsesh#t. If you have to make a call, then pick the phone up off the charger and use it. If its at 0 power then put it on speaker. Or use your Apple Watch. Or use bt headphones. Plenty of options.

The only people that don't want wireless charging are those that believe restrictions and lack of choice is a good thing. He communist and Lenninist mindset. Why they want to limit themselves and others baffle me?
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The biggest strike against existing wireless charging technology isn’t speed, It’s the fact that you have to have the phone in a specific stationary position in order to charge. This makes it less convenient than wired charging which still allows much freedom of positioning.
However I once saw a man at an airport talking on his android phone while holding the phone and inductive charger up to his ear.

Also got news for you. The S8 will charge faster wirelessly, than an iPhone plugged in. Guess you aren't aware of Qi 2.1 capabilities?

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Nice feature to have. Apple will happily sell you their wireless charging device for $99 plus sales tax.

 

[9594864]

People make this seem like an either or situation. As in, you either have to use wireless charging or you have to use wired charging. You people do realize you can use both, depending upon your needs or situation? People also act like if the phone is on a wirelews chqrging pad that it cant be used. This is horsesh#t. If you have to make a call, then pick the phone up off the charger and use it. If its at 0 power then put it on speaker. Or use your Apple Watch. Or use bt headphones. Plenty of options.

The only people that don't want wireless charging are those that believe restrictions and lack of choice is a good thing. He communist and Lenninist mindset. Why they want to limit themselves and others baffle me?
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Also got news for you. The S8 will charge faster wirelessly, than an iPhone plugged in. Guess you aren't aware of Qi 2.1 capabilities?

My favorite thing to do is lay my phone down on a mat and stand over it like a total moron while I watch a tv show on it. Oh no never mind I just plug it into the lightning cable next to my bed and lay in bed while continuously watching, and binging shows.

 

[Jax44]

I don't think I'll be using it.

If a wireless charging pad isn't included with the phone, then I definitely can't see myself paying extra for it.

I'd find it more useful in the car than home, but it'd need to fit in the snug phone compartment within my car & then wirelessly connect to Carplay, which isn't supported, so I guess I have little to no use for this particular iteration of wireless charging.

Our new car has a Qi shelf. Got a thin cover for my wife's iPhone and it is pretty sweet to just drop it on the pad when driving.
At home, I prefer the 6' lightning cable so I can sit on the couch and use it while charging,
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How much space does the wireless charging component take up/how large is it? It looks quite big in the pictures but I haven't seen anything for scale.

An Ankar Qi pad is 3"x3".
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Come on! Plugging in a phone is so much work. Just think of all the time .5 seconds x 20 years could save!

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One thing for sure, I bought a wireless charging pad from Anker for ............. $12.49.............. I sure as hell am not going to pay $199 or even $100 for a wireless charging pad.

Yep, the Anker pad is a good deal.

 

[mctrials23]

An Ankar Qi pad is 3"x3".

Thanks for the reply but I was after the size of the internal coil component. It looks quite big and bulky and I was wondering how much volume in the phone it takes up.

 

[AsherN]

Thanks for the reply but I was after the size of the internal coil component. It looks quite big and bulky and I was wondering how much volume in the phone it takes up.

It's a wire coil. It's maybe 1mm thick. I have no idea where that "bulky" thing comes from. Look at all the phons that have it. None of them are bulkier because of the coil.

 

[mctrials23]

It's a wire coil. It's maybe 1mm thick. I have no idea where that "bulky" thing comes from. Look at all the phons that have it. None of them are bulkier because of the coil.

I know what it is but its on top of a pcb. If its 1mm thick inc. the wire thats not a lot. How wide/tall is it as well. In a phone 2mm x 40mm x 40mm is a fair bit of volume dedicated to something most people won't use.

 

[Lloydbm41]

My favorite thing to do is lay my phone down on a mat and stand over it like a total moron while I watch a tv show on it. Oh no never mind I just plug it into the lightning cable next to my bed and lay in bed while continuously watching, and binging shows.

Seriously, do any of you guys actually read the posts you respond to?

 

[9594864]

Seriously, do any of you guys actually read the posts you respond to?

Oh I read it, and I wouldn't have typed that had you not continued to go on about how laying it down and using it is not really a problem. Like you made the point that you can still plug it in, and then immediately started talking about why it's not a problem to use it while it's charging which made no sense.

Look, everyone knows inductive charging has an extremely minor level of convenience. The problem most, and maybe yourself don't think about is that the inclusion of inductive charging capabilities comes at the cost of internal space. Internal space is invaluable. It's the only thing that matters. It's needed for more advanced features, of which inductive charging is not one. It's essentially compromising for a feature which has realistically extremely relative convenience to a fraction of customers who will actually use it.

 

[jlseattle]

Why I care about wireless charging: if the iPhone 8 is completely water resistant or proof and includes airpods I would be in heaven. I'm ok with wireless charging just as a concept in and of itself. I wouldn't purchase if they had the wired connection. I would just continue to use the millions of chargers I have for my other idevices.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Why I care about wireless charging: if the iPhone 8 is completely water resistant or proof and includes airpods I would be in heaven. I'm ok with wireless charging just as a concept in and of itself. I wouldn't purchase if they had the wired connection. I would just continue to use the millions of chargers I have for my other idevices.

It will not be water proof and if you want airpods, you will need to buy them.

 

[jlseattle]

It will not be water proof and if you want airpods, you will need to buy them.

LOL, I already own them. You completely missed my point. I'm justifying why wireless charging would be interesting. Otherwise I don't have an interest.

You don't know what they are actually going to deliver with the new iPhone 8. It would be interesting to see you eat your words when it is released.

 

[Newtons Apple]

LOL, I already own them. You completely missed my point. I'm justifying why wireless charging would be interesting. Otherwise I don't have an interest.

You don't know what they are actually going to deliver with the new iPhone 8. It would be interesting to see you eat your words when it is released.

I am willing to bet a new iPhone 8 starting at $999 will NOT include a pair of airpods. Look me up after introduction day so you can eat your words. This thread will still be here.

 

[ANDJOE]

People make this seem like an either or situation. As in, you either have to use wireless charging or you have to use wired charging. You people do realize you can use both, depending upon your needs or situation? People also act like if the phone is on a wirelews chqrging pad that it cant be used. This is horsesh#t. If you have to make a call, then pick the phone up off the charger and use it. If its at 0 power then put it on speaker. Or use your Apple Watch. Or use bt headphones. Plenty of options.

The only people that don't want wireless charging are those that believe restrictions and lack of choice is a good thing. He communist and Lenninist mindset. Why they want to limit themselves and others baffle me?
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Also got news for you. The S8 will charge faster wirelessly, than an iPhone plugged in. Guess you aren't aware of Qi 2.1 capabilities?

Lloydbm41,
I am excited for Apple's take on wireless charging. Apple has been pushing the idea of cutting cables for quite some time. Their vision is certainly a wireless future. And you are right that users will be able to use both wired and wireless charging depending on their needs.
My impression of wireless charging comes from my Apple Watch. I really appreciate how simple it is to charge at the end of the day by just dropping it on a puck. But that simplicity goes hand in hand with all-day battery life.
I imagine during the day if my phone gets low on charge, if I have to make a choice between charging my phone and picking it up off it's puck to use it, or have to move it from a wireless charger to a wired charger, that does seem like extra work that is un-apple like.
I'm excited to see how Apple address this. Maybe all day battery life

 

[sean000]

Wish there was a middle option for "I might appreciate the convenience, but I'm not that excited about it."

This might be one of those features that turns out to be so convenient I will wonder why I wasn't more excited about it. I guess it will depend on how well it works (including through a case). I could see it being useful on a nightstand dock, because if you've already turned off the light it can be awkward to line up a lightning cable connection. I could see using it at the office as well. My office gets terrible cellular reception, which drains the battery as the phone keeps searching for signal (usually it finds a weak one). I plug my iPhone 6 in a lot at work, because the aging battery (combined with signal searching) needs frequent top-offs. A charging pad would no doubt be more convenient, but it won't be the kind of convenience that saves me much time or aggravation, so it's tough to get excited about. Maybe it will be more about the coolness factor than the convenience. I still think the way my Apple Watch charges is pretty cool.

I suppose there is some practicality. It will be easy to listen to something on the ear buds while charging the iPhone! For a tiny device like the Apple Watch the practicality is in not needing to have a receptacle for the charging cable built into the watch case. That's not an issue with the iPhone though.

I will keep one eyebrow cautiously raised until we know more.

 

[BigMcGuire]

Seriously, do any of you guys actually read the posts you respond to?

No, it was yesterday that I washed my car! Duh!.....

 

[AsherN]

I know what it is but its on top of a pcb. If its 1mm thick inc. the wire thats not a lot. How wide/tall is it as well. In a phone 2mm x 40mm x 40mm is a fair bit of volume dedicated to something most people won't use.

If it's on top of a PCB, they're doing it wrong. I added Qi to a Samsung S5. The kit was literally a coil you stuck to the inside of the back cover and connected to the battery

 

[CTHarrryH]

Apple will have to support standards. I would imagine that cars and other places will continue to place wireless charging pads in places but they won't have multiple standard item.
Honestly, I really probably don't care - I have to plug that into the wall and with a flexible cord I have some options on using while plugged in vs. having to place on something

 

[Dented]

I know what it is but its on top of a pcb. If its 1mm thick inc. the wire thats not a lot. How wide/tall is it as well. In a phone 2mm x 40mm x 40mm is a fair bit of volume dedicated to something most people won't use.

I think I know the "leaked" picture of a charging coil you're referring to and it's been debunked - nothing to do with Apple, the part pictured is just some standard off-the-shelf component used by oems. The most obvious sign is that the pcb is bog standard green - apple just don't use boards like that.

 

[Ralfi]

Rather than a charging pad, I'd prefer a charging 'tray', where multiple devices can be placed on it. If I can do away with the separate cables I now use for the iPhone & ipad & be able to plonk them on the one wireless charging tray, then I could start to see extra benefits.

That's an even longer way away though, seeing as wireless charging is slow with just one device connected?

 

[JoeyD74]

While I'm sure if I had it I'd use it, I don't care about it. I charge my phone at night when I go to bed and that's it.

 

[CGoodlet26]

Mostly excited about the potential for a charging pad that could toss both my watch and iPhone on at night to charge. Don't know how likely possibility is but it would be a great use-case.

 

[44267547]

Mostly excited about the potential for a charging pad that could toss both my watch and iPhone on at night to charge. Don't know how likely possibility is but it would be a great use-case.

Interesting idea. The only thing I would question is would the charging rate slow down when having multiple devices charging continuously at the same time.