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Who doesn't have a backlighting problem?
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My old one had noticeable bleed (by noticeable I mean you could see it even without locking yourself in a closet and burning your retina looking for it.) but apple replaced it when my microphone stopped working and the new one is fine.
Mine is fine. I have seen some with backlight problems but the backlight needs to be near 100% to be seen. The main problem i have seen is yellowing caused by glue at the corners of the screen though this should go away after a week
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iMac 27"iMac G4iPad2 32GBiPhone 3GSMan, trust me, if you want an iPad and that's what's keeping you uncertain then you're just wasting your time. I've been in your situation twice, once with the iPad2's overblown bleeding issue, and the other one was with the 13" MacBook Pro's heating problems . I spent long hours on this website reading about them and then cancelled my plans for an iPad2 and decided to wait a little on the pro. But since my old MacBook completely died right around the end of May, I had to order a new MacBook Pro and it was without any issues what so ever. And just a few days a go, my dad got me an iPad2 for my birthday and it had no bleeding at all. It did, however, have a dead pixel in the middle of the screen that was bugging me so I took it to Apple store and exchanged it for another one with no dead pixels and no bleeding issues.
tl;dr: I wasted so much time worrying about all this whining about the 13' MacBook Pro and IPad2 issues in this forum, then when I got both they were without any issues. Go for it
tl;dr: I wasted so much time worrying about all this whining about the 13' MacBook Pro and IPad2 issues in this forum, then when I got both they were without any issues. Go for it
Bought a black 32gb wifi on launch day. It had lightbleed issues along the bottom of the screen, but nothing that would have caused me to return it.
Bought a 64gb wifi black last month and it is perfect. Zero lightbleed issues.
Bought a 64gb wifi black last month and it is perfect. Zero lightbleed issues.
My first one had it a little bit, but nothing noticeable. What was noticeable was the dust accumulating under the screen--I returned it for another one, and my second one has pretty close to 0 light bleed. Just one tiny little spot by the home button that you can barely see.
So for all intents and purposes, I've had 2 in a row that did not have the bleed problem.
So for all intents and purposes, I've had 2 in a row that did not have the bleed problem.
I think the iPad's low pixel density is a much bigger problem than bleed. Competitors such as Samsung already have a 30% higher pixel density than the iPad. So even if you overcome the bleeding problem, which also plagues the Samsung Galaxy Tab, you still have a 30% blurrier, fuzzier display. Apple, the inventor of the "retina display", can and should do better.
My display looks fine, I can't see any blurry fuzziness... and I'm sure the majority of the population would think the same as me.
Mine has it, there's no mistaking it when you check for it either. I've been told it's really bad. That said, it is totally inconsequential. The only time you can see it is when you are looking at a black screen in a dark room--like during the initial boot up.
During normal operation it is completely and totally unnoticeable. Don't let it hold you back from buying one. It's one of those overblown Internet forum issues that only affects people who are trying to find a problem. It doesn't signify that there is anything wrong with the device, it doesn't mean it is of lower build quality. It just means you can see a little bit of light peeking out from behind the screen when there is nothing to display. LED backlights are extremely bright, it doesn't take much to see the light. No big deal.
During normal operation it is completely and totally unnoticeable. Don't let it hold you back from buying one. It's one of those overblown Internet forum issues that only affects people who are trying to find a problem. It doesn't signify that there is anything wrong with the device, it doesn't mean it is of lower build quality. It just means you can see a little bit of light peeking out from behind the screen when there is nothing to display. LED backlights are extremely bright, it doesn't take much to see the light. No big deal.
But is this the case with backlit LCDs (as opposed to edge-lit)? If Apple were to switch to back-lighting, there would necessarily be no bleed, the blacks would be blacker, and they might finally be able to get some really decent battery life out of the iPad.
^The voice of reason.
I have no light bleed, at least that I've noticed, for the simple reason that I haven't checked. I just don't care. If I can read whatever is on the screen without obsessing over some light creeping in from one of the sides when I'm using it, it's a non-issue.
This is false. I planned on using my iPad 2 to watch movies and it wasglaringly obvious and distracting while watching movies with letter boxing. Also, I have plenty of dark apps that were atrocious with the bleeding.
It's not about the boot up screen on using the iPad in a dark closet. It is a real problem and a problem obvious in normal usage.
I returned my iPad 2 simply because of it and will be waiting until a redesign to re-buy instead of joining the return/ complaint circus in the other "bleeding" thread.
This problem is a problem of uneven pressure distribution on the panel due to assembly and design (involving the device's thinness, the use of glue as an adherent, and placement of parts in such a tightly packed device) and not a problem of faulty panels (or it just being the inherent nature of backlit panels as you are suggesting in your post [all of my various iPod Touches, iPhones and original iPad did not have this issue whatsoever]). People can choose to listen to me with this fact or continue playing roulette with returns. it's your choice. Either decide it's something you can live with or return it, wait until the next redesign and hope for a solution. Otherwise, expect about a 1 out of 10 chance of receiving one you'll find acceptable while going through 5+ exchanges obsessively only to settle for one that's the "lesser evil".
I think the light bleeding falls in three categories--non-existent, not so bad, and really bad. If you can see it during normal usage without having to look for it, it should be returned. If you can only see it when you shut yourself in a dark room, close all doors and windows, turn the brightness all the way up to 100%, and then squint in exactly the right way, then returning is a little bit ridiculous.
I personally have had 2 in a row that have not really had the problem. My first one barely had it and my second one doesn't have it at all except one teeny tiny little spot. I don't think the problem is as widespread as it appears on forum threads or there would be a lot more antenna-gate style coverage about it. The media loves to skewer Apple for stuff like that.
My personal woes with iPads stem from junk under the screen. My first one got a rather large piece of debris under the screen about 2 weeks into owning it. 2 days later there were 4 pieces of debris. It was obviously going to keep getting worse. I took it back and got a new one, and this one has what looks like some small little spots on the underside of the screen that look like dried water specks. It covers roughly a dime sized area. I can see them under flourescent light if I really look for them. In normal use, they are not noticeable, and absolutely invisible when the screen is on.
Still grappling with taking this unit back--in the end, it would probably be a waste of time. I am putting myself at risk of getting one with bleed or with more dust problems. I don't think there's a perfect iPhone, iPod, or iPad out there, but we as users have come to expect that.
Backlight Bleading
I was very scared to get an iPad with the problem when i ordered mine in May. Unfortunately, they gave me an iPad with the backlight bleading problem, but it is a very minor case of it. It isnt noticeable until your screen is completely black. which is hardly never
I was very scared to get an iPad with the problem when i ordered mine in May. Unfortunately, they gave me an iPad with the backlight bleading problem, but it is a very minor case of it. It isnt noticeable until your screen is completely black. which is hardly never
I don't understand when people say that you won't notice them under normal use, unless watching movies is considered above and beyond normal use. When watching a movie (widescreen) I see them along the edges and they're quite noticeable. I don't have to look for them or turn the brightness up, they're there. It's true, when I'm not watching movies I don't notice them but that's only because most non-movie-watching activities on the iPad are done against a relatively bright, sometimes coloured, backgrounds where of course light bleed won't be visible.
I'm still within my return period and I'm thinking of getting the 2nd one exchanged only because I watch movies on mine often enough that this is a real issue. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with it.
I'm still within my return period and I'm thinking of getting the 2nd one exchanged only because I watch movies on mine often enough that this is a real issue. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with it.
I've had my launch iPad 2 replaced twice. In May, I had my iPad replaced for having yellow splotches (severe bleeding) around the edges of the screen. The replacement iPad had a perfect, albeit slightly warmer, screen. After that screen started accumulating dust between the glass and screen, I had it replaced again last week. This iPad has a perfect screen which is cool in temperature.
Admittedly, when I turn up the brightness to 100% in dark environments, it doesn't look as great. But since I can't stand to keep the screen that bright in a dark room, it is not a problem.
Admittedly, when I turn up the brightness to 100% in dark environments, it doesn't look as great. But since I can't stand to keep the screen that bright in a dark room, it is not a problem.
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My new one has a faint glow on the right side. I only notice it when I look at it with lights off and an all black background. When I watch video, I don't notice at all. I forget it's there until a thread like this reminds me.
Moral: like you would with any new product, if it doesn't meet expectations, exchange it. Otherwise, don't worry about it.
Mattprice said:
My new one has a faint glow on the right side. I only notice it when I look at it with lights off and an all black background. When I watch video, I don't notice at all. I forget it's there until a thread like this reminds me.
Moral: like you would with any new product, if it doesn't meet expectations, exchange it. Otherwise, don't worry about it.