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Me, I really like the Smart Stack. I want that as a watch face -- that is, I want my watch to show the Smart Stack all the time, instead of having to swipe up to get to it.

Still, the way it is now isn't bad. I've taken to using simpler watch faces without much information, and swiping up to Smart Stack when I want to see the data. The date isn't redundant when my regular watch face doesn't have the date. Which, a significant number of my watch faces don't show the date, because I've filled it up with other complications. I've spent a lot of time trying to arrange my watch faces so a face with the date is only a few swipes away. Now the date is always just a swipe up, no matter how I arrange my watch faces.
Fine, I can see that the date can be useful in some cases but a clock? I mean swiping up from the watchface to reveal what, a watch? 🤯That's just pure nonsense and I don't know who thought that this was a great idea.

And if anything I want this to be customizable - let me activate or deactivate these silly and IMHO redundant features.

It's pretty clear that they ran out of innovations so they changed the optics in order to be able to present something.
 
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Fine, I can see that the date can be useful in some cases but a clock? I mean swiping up from the watchface to reveal what, a watch? 🤯That's just pure nonsense and I don't know who thought that this was a great idea.
I think the thinking was that it's a watch, so the time should be visible at all times.

As I said before, I like the prominent date on first swipe up, and I think the clock in that view is that large in order to balance the date.

And if anything I want this to be customizable - let me activate or deactivate these silly and IMHO redundant features.
This I agree with. The user should be able to customize this to their preference.

It's pretty clear that they ran out of innovations so they changed the optics in order to be able to present something.
I for one, find the Smart Stack useful. But I do agree that it feels like Apple is struggling to come up with something new, not just the watch, but also with the iPhone/iOS.
 
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I want custom watch faces, SDK please.
I only recently got an Apple Watch. I hadn't paid any attention at all the the platform until I got one, and was rather disappointed to learn there's a pretty limited number of options. I had always assumed there was some kind of App Store for watch faces, or at least an ability to customize them more.

There should be way more options, and they should be adding new ones all the time. Seems like such a waste not to!
 
But I do agree that it feels like Apple is struggling to come up with something new

I cannot understand this sentiment for the heck of me. Do people have a hole in their lives that they need to fill with "something new" on a constant beat?

In their entire history, Rolex came up with something new maybe two or three times. In contrast, Apple Watch faces provide a plethora of imaginative ways of telling time. My favourite, pretty much from day one (April 2015) has been Solar Graph:

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The truest representation of time-of-day I have yet seen.
 
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After seeing the graphic design vomit of the Android custom watch faces an SDK is the last thing we need.
"I don't want it so nobody should want it."

I would really like to make my own watch face, thank you very much, even if you choose to ignore a watch SDK and everything people make with it.
 
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"I don't want it so nobody should want it."

I would really like to make my own watch face, thank you very much, even if you choose to ignore a watch SDK and everything people make with it.
Install the Clockology app. It’s not a true watch face, but it’s as close as you’re going to get right now.
 
I only recently got an Apple Watch. I hadn't paid any attention at all the the platform until I got one, and was rather disappointed to learn there's a pretty limited number of options. I had always assumed there was some kind of App Store for watch faces, or at least an ability to customize them more.

There should be way more options, and they should be adding new ones all the time. Seems like such a waste not to!
What's really fun is you get to a wait a year to see what paltry number of faces they add each year. And then most of them are analog watch faces.
 
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I cannot understand this sentiment for the heck of me. Do people have a hole in their lives that they need to fill with "something new" on a constant beat?

In their entire history, Rolex came up with something new maybe two or three times. In contrast, Apple Watch faces provide a plethora of imaginative ways of telling time. My favourite, pretty much from day one (April 2015) has been Solar Graph:

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The truest representation of time-of-day I have yet seen.
Maybe if Apple didn't keep adding new faces, I wouldn't feel like they are struggling. I also love the Solar Graph face, but then Apple has since added several other "solar" faces, none of them quite as good as the original. In the meanwhile I keep wishing I could add one more complication to the original Solar Graph face.
 
What's really fun is you get to a wait a year to see what paltry number of faces they add each year. And then most of them are analog watch faces.
I'm cool with the anaolgue part, but I sure do wish there was just a third-party watch face store. (I know Apple won't do it because they're control freaks, of course.)
 
I'm cool with the anaolgue part, but I sure do wish there was just a third-party watch face store. (I know Apple won't do it because they're control freaks, of course.)
Suck for me because I only care about digital faces and the pitiful amount they release each year are never what I want (which is a Modular-Ultra type face).

Third party watch face store would be so nice.
 
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"a fashion accessory" - only if you treat it as such, for me it's a computer on the wrist, a tool, nothing more, nothing less, and it is way more than a "notification device"


OP is 100% correct. It largely is a notification device.

To your statement, if you didn't want a fashion accessory you wouldn't have purchased an Apple Watch. Plenty of smart watches out there, and some even look like a computer on the wrist, if this is all you wanted (a computer and a tool).

Instead you're making a statement about the Apple brand and your position on design when you wear it outside (if you like to or not).

So let's get honest here champ, it's more than a computer on your wrist to you, it's more than a tool to you and a bunch of other things you can't articulate.

Now show me your Apple Watch + band combo!!!!!!!!!
 
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OP is 100% correct. It largely is a notification device.

To your statement, if you didn't want a fashion accessory you wouldn't have purchased an Apple Watch. Plenty of smart watches out there, and some even look like a computer on the wrist, if this is all you wanted (a computer and a tool).

Instead you're making a statement about the Apple brand and your position on design when you wear it outside (if you like to or not).

So let's get honest here champ, it's more than a computer on your wrist to you, it's more than a tool to you and a bunch of other things you can't articulate.

Now show me your Apple Watch + band combo!!!!!!!!!
Now your comment are your opinion but please don’t put words into my mouth.
 
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OP is 100% correct. It largely is a notification device.

To your statement, if you didn't want a fashion accessory you wouldn't have purchased an Apple Watch. Plenty of smart watches out there, and some even look like a computer on the wrist, if this is all you wanted (a computer and a tool).

Instead you're making a statement about the Apple brand and your position on design when you wear it outside (if you like to or not).

So let's get honest here champ, it's more than a computer on your wrist to you, it's more than a tool to you and a bunch of other things you can't articulate.

Now show me your Apple Watch + band combo!!!!!!!!!

Yeop, that makes total sense. Nobody in the Apple Ecosystem would use an Apple Watch aside from fashion reasons alone.
 
To your statement, if you didn't want a fashion accessory you wouldn't have purchased an Apple Watch.

This is provably false. There are so many counter examples. A simple one is mine; I only wear my Apple Watch while exercising in the house, in grubby, sweaty clothes. I didn't want a fashion accessory, but I purchased an Apple Watch.

Instead you're making a statement about the Apple brand and your position on design when you wear it outside

Many wear the watch because it serves a function. Some even wear it under their sleeve so it's not often seen.

I wonder where your assumptions come from. It seems like you really enjoy the look of an Apple Watch and try to make a statement by wearing it. You might be in the minority. The Apple Watch is not that good looking from more than a few feet away and people aren't often paying attention to your wrist. The statement you're trying to make by wearing one is probably wasted.
 
This is provably false. There are so many counter examples.

Can we just agree that there are many reasons for owning and wearing an Apple Watch, that's what makes it so compelling for a lot of people.

Contrast that with owning and wearing a Rolex for example, where the only reason is projecting wealth and success.
 
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Can we just agree that there are many reasons for owning and wearing an Apple Watch, that's what makes it so compelling for a lot of people.

Contrast that with owning and wearing a Rolex for example, where the only reason is projecting wealth and success.

We agree on the first paragraph. Your second paragraph's assertion is definitely false (and seems off-topic).

Your first paragraph's assertion is a compelling argument why we need more faces. Since there are so many reasons for owning the watch and likely different ways it's used, it's useful to have a lot of faces. For example, I often need a digital display with seconds. I would like to have more than one face as an option.
 
I cannot understand this sentiment for the heck of me. Do people have a hole in their lives that they need to fill with "something new" on a constant beat?

In their entire history, Rolex came up with something new maybe two or three times. In contrast, Apple Watch faces provide a plethora of imaginative ways of telling time. My favourite, pretty much from day one (April 2015) has been Solar Graph:

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The truest representation of time-of-day I have yet seen.
Such a beautiful face - need to use it more. After they opened up for complications on it, it has been great
 
I cannot understand this sentiment for the heck of me. Do people have a hole in their lives that they need to fill with "something new" on a constant beat?

In their entire history, Rolex came up with something new maybe two or three times. In contrast, Apple Watch faces provide a plethora of imaginative ways of telling time. My favourite, pretty much from day one (April 2015) has been Solar Graph:

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The truest representation of time-of-day I have yet seen.

You cannot really compare a Rolex to an Apple Watch - that's like comparing Apples and Crowns ;) . What is more, it is Apple's decision to release a watch every year and I think it is only normal to expect some form of innovation or "something new". Right now they have hit a plateau and so they had to change the Side button / Crown functions, create the "Smart Stack" etc...
 
Now your comment are your opinion but please don’t put words into my mouth.

Everyone seems to be completely oblivious to status when it comes to why people choose Apple.

No one wears an Apple Watch and is telling themselves a story about how the product isn't a luxury item.

Same with owning any luxury watch. Just to tell the time? Please - I don't know if there are some strong trolls on here or something strange is going on.

Example... from one of the replies to my original message (their sig). Why would someone boast about their stack of apple products? Great list of status symbols.

2020 MBA M1 8/8 - iPad Air 5th - iPhone 14 Pro Max - Watch Ultra (1)
 
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Everyone seems to be completely oblivious to status when it comes to why people choose Apple.

No one wears an Apple Watch and is telling themselves a story about how the product isn't a luxury item.

Same with owning any luxury watch. Just to tell the time? Please - I don't know if there are some strong trolls on here or something strange is going on.

Example... from one of the replies to my original message (their sig). Why would someone boast about their stack of apple products? Great list of status symbols.

2020 MBA M1 8/8 - iPad Air 5th - iPhone 14 Pro Max - Watch Ultra (1)

Hey thanks for picking my stuff. For god's sake, make it bold next time and use my name so I get the exposure.


But seriously, the reason I list that is so that when someone reads a post of mine where I'm telling someone how to get the best out of their Mac Pro and explaining why it's such a poor device for doing deep compiles, they can look at my sig and say "What? This guy doesn't even own one!!".

I know right, such a CRAZY concept. I think that's why most people do it.

Who on earth would consider an M1 MBA a brag :D:D:D:D:D


"LoOk aT ThiS GUy BraGgiNG aboUt ALl tHe OlD TEch hE oWnS". You totally nailed it.
 
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