Agreed… I think it’s a bad value, but some will undoubtedly want the cheapest possible rather than the “best value” (which, for the model y, is definitely the premium RWD!).
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Obviously it will be out of my price range, but the specs on the new Ferrari Elettrica are completely crazy. 4 electric motors, 282hp (210kW) at the front, over 800hp (620kW) at the rear axle, some 8000Nm torque at the rear axle, 3500Nm torque at the front. It seems the front motors can be disconnected if they are not needed (eg, highway driving). Batteries can be removed/changed without impacting the structural components - so it appears Ferrari has designed it with future proofing in mind.
From what they are saying, it looks like the batteries can take up to 500kW charging which is to my knowledge far beyond the normal.
They could move the planet with that kind of torque!
Apparently 310km/h top speed and 2.5 seconds to 100km/h and 122kWh battery with 530km range. Seems like all the components are in house developments.
Electric motors apparently related to those on the F80. I can't remember immediately, does anyone else do an EV with 4 motors?
Suspension is derived from Purosangue and is the 48 volt electric system with screw type arrangement, it works very fast and keeps the car very flat. I hope I'll get to sample this new thing one day.
From what they are saying, it looks like the batteries can take up to 500kW charging which is to my knowledge far beyond the normal.
They could move the planet with that kind of torque!
Apparently 310km/h top speed and 2.5 seconds to 100km/h and 122kWh battery with 530km range. Seems like all the components are in house developments.
Electric motors apparently related to those on the F80. I can't remember immediately, does anyone else do an EV with 4 motors?
The Ferrari Elettrica is (almost) here
The Ferrari Elettrica combines a state-of-the-art electric powertrain with unmistakable Ferrari dynamics and performance.
www.ferrari.com
Suspension is derived from Purosangue and is the 48 volt electric system with screw type arrangement, it works very fast and keeps the car very flat. I hope I'll get to sample this new thing one day.
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Drako - Quad MotorsObviously it will be out of my price range, but the specs on the new Ferrari Elettrica are completely crazy. 4 electric motors, 282hp (210kW) at the front, over 800hp (620kW) at the rear axle, some 8000Nm torque at the rear axle, 3500Nm torque at the front. It seems the front motors can be disconnected if they are not needed (eg, highway driving). Batteries can be removed/changed without impacting the structural components - so it appears Ferrari has designed it with future proofing in mind.
From what they are saying, it looks like the batteries can take up to 500kW charging which is to my knowledge far beyond the normal.
They could move the planet with that kind of torque!
Apparently 310km/h top speed and 2.5 seconds to 100km/h and 122kWh battery with 530km range. Seems like all the components are in house developments.
Electric motors apparently related to those on the F80. I can't remember immediately, does anyone else do an EV with 4 motors?
The Ferrari Elettrica is (almost) here
The Ferrari Elettrica combines a state-of-the-art electric powertrain with unmistakable Ferrari dynamics and performance.www.ferrari.com
Suspension is derived from Purosangue and is the 48 volt electric system with screw type arrangement, it works very fast and keeps the car very flat. I hope I'll get to sample this new thing one day.
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And if you're planning on keeping the car for a long time, "residual value" and depreciation don't matter.
I bought a Rivian brand new. I don't care about its depreciation, because I plan on owning it until it is financially unreasonable to keep on the road. (AKA: needs repairs that cost far more than it's worth.)
I also don't normally buy brand new. But I wanted to replace my diesel pickup as quickly as possible, and the Rivian was the first one available, and had to get it new. (Plus, I got in early enough to get mine before the price increase. It means that even with depreciation, I'm barely down any "value", since mine was cheaper than those sold only a couple months later. I've *MORE* than saved that depreciation in fuel.
For me, the Rivian replaced both a Tesla Model S as "daily driver" and the old diesel pickup as "hauler and weekend fun-times - aka tow the travel trailer". Selling both - for more than I bought them for! - to be a decent down payment on the Rivian, I calculated that if I went camping twice a month (not unreasonable in my family) we would save in fuel vs the diesel pickup what the Rivian's monthly payment was. (Also paid less in insurance than the Tesla+diesel pickup.)
The Tesla was a 2014 bought in 2020. The pickup was a 1997 bought in 2015. Sold both in 2022, at the height of the "used vehicles selling for way too much", so made a profit on both. (The diesel pickup selling for *DOUBLE* what we paid for it in 2015!) That paid about half the Rivian's price.
We have a membership in a "camping chain" (that we don't even pay for - my aunt has the main membership, and we're her "free family pass".) We regularly go to one of three local sites that are "one Rivian when towing range away". They allow us to plug in at the campsite. So "fuel" for the trip is just the cost to recharge the Rivian at home when we get back. Which with our "off peak" pricing charging overnight, is about $6. The same trip in our old diesel would cost ~$100 each way.
Indeed. I’ve had it over three years now. I expect to keep it another 2-3 at least. Truth is the depreciation although makes for unpleasant reading is like the increase in my house value. It doesn’t matter that it’s worth £100k more than when I bought it. It’s not real money. I’m not selling it and if I did another house has gone up the same in value.
I have to say, that little thing still makes a lot of sense as a city car, it's the right size - useful interior and they are fairly quick at lower speeds, enough to not be a pain when you want to accelerate onto a motorway for example.
I wonder how heavy that 122kWh NMC battery is. Especially if they made it to be removable.Obviously it will be out of my price range, but the specs on the new Ferrari Elettrica are completely crazy. 4 electric motors, 282hp (210kW) at the front, over 800hp (620kW) at the rear axle, some 8000Nm torque at the rear axle, 3500Nm torque at the front. It seems the front motors can be disconnected if they are not needed (eg, highway driving). Batteries can be removed/changed without impacting the structural components - so it appears Ferrari has designed it with future proofing in mind.
From what they are saying, it looks like the batteries can take up to 500kW charging which is to my knowledge far beyond the normal.
They could move the planet with that kind of torque!
Apparently 310km/h top speed and 2.5 seconds to 100km/h and 122kWh battery with 530km range. Seems like all the components are in house developments.
Electric motors apparently related to those on the F80. I can't remember immediately, does anyone else do an EV with 4 motors?
The Ferrari Elettrica is (almost) here
The Ferrari Elettrica combines a state-of-the-art electric powertrain with unmistakable Ferrari dynamics and performance.www.ferrari.com
Suspension is derived from Purosangue and is the 48 volt electric system with screw type arrangement, it works very fast and keeps the car very flat. I hope I'll get to sample this new thing one day.
That we won’t know until they give more details. Supposedly it is very energy dense.
I wonder if they are thinking of battery upgrades later down the track like for the old type F150 (LaFerrari) and other hybrid models. It would seem that way.
The prototypes seen driving give little away, they appear to be hacked up Maserati Levante SUVs which this chassis definitely is not. That’s nothing unusual for Ferrari, the early mules are usually something else adapted to test the power train and genuine articles come a bit later on.
I wonder if they are thinking of battery upgrades later down the track like for the old type F150 (LaFerrari) and other hybrid models. It would seem that way.
The prototypes seen driving give little away, they appear to be hacked up Maserati Levante SUVs which this chassis definitely is not. That’s nothing unusual for Ferrari, the early mules are usually something else adapted to test the power train and genuine articles come a bit later on.
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modularity is easier for repair. Since these are supposed to be low mileage vehicles battery age is going to sap capacity more than miles driven. Honestly they probably could have gone with smaller packs as these cars aren't going to be driven very far in their lifetimes.
I am surprised they didn't go with LFP.