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Do you like coffee?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 200 74.6%
  • Hell no.

    Votes: 68 25.4%

  • Total voters
    268
starbucks has some pretty good coffee

Perish the thought!! Starbucks is terrible. I guess if it's all you've got, that's OK, but if you've got locally owned/run coffee shops, support your local brewers! You'll find that the coffee is better and the people are cooler.
 
Perish the thought!! Starbucks is terrible. I guess if it's all you've got, that's OK, but if you've got locally owned/run coffee shops, support your local brewers! You'll find that the coffee is better and the people are cooler.

While I disagree that Starbucks coffee itself it bad, I do agree that it's better to patronize locally-owned coffee shops; Starbucks, while a noble idea of creating a haven of rest and solitude to enjoy your coffee, doesn't quite get there for me (too many Starbucks are too much alike for this to really be the case). Local spots are tops becuase you get to know the decor, the feel, the people and then it becomes "My" coffee shop.

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Starbucks is like the McDonald's of coffee. They're quality sucks and they are everywhere BUT they have the cheek to charge a premium for that rubbish. :rolleyes:
 
Perish the thought!! Starbucks is terrible. I guess if it's all you've got, that's OK, but if you've got locally owned/run coffee shops, support your local brewers! You'll find that the coffee is better and the people are cooler.

I wouldn't say that Starbucks coffee is terrible. It IS consistently mediocre. Also, the point of most Starbucks drinks is that the coffee is not the focus. Starbucks makes a mediocre espresso (and with espresso, anything less than "very good" is really not worth drinking), but good mochas, lattés, etc.

I would wager that most Starbucks workers know more about frothing milk than they do about making coffee. I have several friends who work there and it seems to be the case.
 
A Starbucks employee doesn't need to know how to make coffee. Everything is prepackaged and all they do is push a button.
 
A Starbucks employee doesn't need to know how to make coffee. Everything is prepackaged and all they do is push a button.

i did a coffee course as well as 5 star restaurant service and setup course at a hospitality school and i agree that espresso extracting is easy, all you have to do is just tamper the coffee grounds and then extract them at the push of the button. but the real mastery is with the milk wand. the frothed milk has to have no bubbles, have a silk like sheen and be around 70C. practice makes perfect. and then theres all the frappacinos which i have no idea how to make but i bet theyre easy to learn.

btw i its 8am and i just had my morning espresso! bwaZANG!
 
i did a coffee course as well as 5 star restaurant service and setup course at a hospitality school and i agree that espresso extracting is easy, all you have to do is just tamper the coffee grounds and then extract them at the push of the button. but the real mastery is with the milk wand. the frothed milk has to have no bubbles, have a silk like sheen and be around 70C. practice makes perfect. and then theres all the frappacinos which i have no idea how to make but i bet theyre easy to learn.

btw i its 8am and i just had my morning espresso! bwaZANG!
wat? It should be almost twice that. 140 is optimum.
 
I've disliked the stuff for years. But recently I've been having mochachino's [sp, for sure] when working at my cousins bar. They're alright I suppose and last week they played havoc with my body so I'm not having them again.
 
BigDeeOT: He said Celsius, not Fahrenheit. Also, about 155 degrees Fahrenheit is considered ideal, which is 70 degrees Celsius.

155F ≃ 68C is the temp at which some coffee drinkers like their steamed milk. when im not having a black espresso i actually like mine a bit hotter than 70C so it doesnt get cold down the bottom.

in fact theres a café in my home town called Cibo who make their coffees exclusively around 65C so they can be drunk quite quickly in the morning rush.
 
Love the stuff - preferably when it's been on the hot plate less than 15 minutes. Going to pour one now...

Oh, and I have a special place in my heart for Turkish.
 
ditto.

and after finally figuring out how to make good, everyday coffee at home (with a french press and a coffee grinder) i am not spending $10+ a day on it either.

and i never, ever thought i would say this: but Starbucks Pike's Place roast is pretty dang good. been buying it whole bean for a week or so.

I like the "Pikes Place Roast" too! I use a Bodum Santos Vacume coffee brewer, and the flowery, fruity aroma of the fresh brewed coffee is terriffic! I usually have a smell, whiff, and then little sip before I add my Espresso. The Coffee Vacume brewer also has a high entertainment value, it is clear plastic, and fun to watch the steam build up in the bottom, then push the water into the top, boil about 2-3 minutes, turn off, and the brewed coffee comes back down into the pot. Here is a picture of my Breville Ikon Espresso machine in action:
 

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I use a Bodum Santos Vacume coffee brewer, and the flowery, fruity aroma of the fresh brewed coffee is terriffic! I usually have a smell, whiff, and then little sip before I add my Espresso. Here is a picture of my Espresso machine in action:
Sounds oh so lovely.:cool:
 
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