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iTunes seems to be slowing down for me the more music, videos and apps I have in my library but that is to be expected really.

An option to remove unused apects of it that you didn't want would be great!
 
iTunes needs to be rewritten from the ground up, right now it is a big piece of bloated garbage. They should go the quicktime X route.
 
If it works as stated, leave it to some no name programmers to implement media management more efficiently than Apple.

It states that it manages media and syncs to devices, correct? In that sense, it seems to work just fine!

But try out the others, maybe you won't hate them as much. Also, just remember that's it's software and probably not the kind of thing you should worry too much about enough to actually hate. Good luck! :)
 
I didn't like iTunes when I was using a PC. But then I got a Mac 2 years ago and it's freaking awesome. Would like it to be 64bit though. Maybe iTunes X will.
 
Well that's okay - you can feel that way. Many of us don't feel that way. So it seems that the best solution is that those of us who have no problems with it just keep enjoying it, and for those who don't like could stop using it. Pretty simple solution :)

Except that we don't have the option to stop using it. Apple refuses to let the iPhone's files be accessed by anything other than iTunes.

Even pwnTunes needs you to specifically enter the serial number of your device into it, and it sounds like they basically trick the iPhone into thinking it's interacting with iTunes in order for the program to be able to manage the device's music and media files.

Apple should just enable drag and drop directly out of Windows/Linux/OSX, without ever having to install iTunes, for those of us that want to do that.
 
The only thing I have a problem with in iTunes, is my inability to add an individual picture to my iPhone. That bugs me. Other than that I like it. Isn't iTunes 10 expected in September? I would imagine it will be rewritten this time around.
 
Except that we don't have the option to stop using it. Apple refuses to let the iPhone's files be accessed by anything other than iTunes.

Hmm. I'm not sure that's completely correct.

I did a quick Google search and the first response brought up many different ways of syncing to an iPhone without using iTunes. Maybe you could try a few of them and let us know which you like the best? Good luck! :)
 
Nope, a google search for "putting music onto iphone without using itunes" turns up nothing useful.

Just a bunch of people asking if it can be done, and several others saying no it can't.

Perhaps you can link me to something that lets my parents simply drag and drop a music folder onto their iPhone. Then when they're done listening to it, lets them delete that folder and drag some other music folder into their iPhone.

The simpler the better.
 
i agree somewhat

not sure on the bloated side, what does that even mean?

buggy, hasn't been too bad for me bug wise

overly complicated? Yes and no. What I will say is that i can't do anything I really want and it sure seems to have stuff everywhere which i never use.

slow - Yes, but not sure if there is a fast music manager anywhere else

I think in general the software is unpleasant but a necessary evil for me
 
I use to hate it and swore I would never use it and only used winamp. That was until I switched to a Mac, now I have a Mac Pro and iTunes could never slow that beast down plus I just don't care anymore on what program manages my music.
 
I do like the idea of iTunes. I like what it is supposed to be, and I use it as my primary music organization & playback software. But I do think it should be much, much better.

...and I'm on a Mac, so I've got it the best that it can be. Doesn't it take like 20 minutes to even open on Windows?
 
I find somethings faster on the pc then my mac with itunes. importing songs changing the genre and such are faster even on a slow pc. my daughters 4 year old cheap laptop will import songs far faster then my mac mini will. to import 120 gigs on a pc would take several hours. do it on my mini would take almost a day.
 
I freaking hate iTunes.

So don't use it! :rolleyes:

It works perfectly fine for me. Zero problems on a decent-sized library.

Nope, a google search for "putting music onto iphone without using itunes" turns up nothing useful.
Perhaps a little training on searching would help. I just searched for "iphone without using itunes" and the very first result is:
Other links from the same search:
All of that aside, I suspect you're not as interested in alternatives or solutions as you are in just ranting, so rant away!
 
I have to disagree. I love iTunes.

On my iMac 8,1 its fast, efficient, and has 0 problems to date. Syncing with my iPod touch works well, as does manual move and drop via NOT HAVING SYNCING ENABLED. It seems thats a huge issue for you, that you some how can't get. Right now the program front end is only using 52 MB RAM, 26MB VM, and 1.5% CPU. Not hogging much there.
 
Nope, a google search for "putting music onto iphone without using itunes" turns up nothing useful.

Just a bunch of people asking if it can be done, and several others saying no it can't.

Perhaps you can link me to something that lets my parents simply drag and drop a music folder onto their iPhone. Then when they're done listening to it, lets them delete that folder and drag some other music folder into their iPhone.

The simpler the better.

Well unfortunately I don't have the time to do the research for you or your parents (as much as I'd like to help:)) but maybe our Google searches work differently as the first search result that comes up for me clearly shows six different methods of doing it as opposed to your discovery that a bunch of people want it and a bunch of people saying that it can't be done. :p

Here's the link:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-ways-to-sync-music-to-your-iphone-without-itunes/

None of them look that simple, which tells me that iTunes, despite your grievances, is the best and most efficient way to do it. Now I know that you're insistent that it's the worst thing ever and completely deserved of your hatred :mad: (which, lets be honest, I think is more of what this post is really about, right;)), but try those other methods and see which you like the best! Otherwise, iTunes does all of the things you seem to want it to do. If your parents can't click a song and drag it onto the device on the left of of the iTunes screen, I'm not sure that owning this kind of technology is right for them! Trust me, my parents are the same! If you think that dragging from one folder to another would be simpler than dragging from one box to another on iTunes, then these Googled options to see which you prefer.

Unfortunately I don't think you're going to be satisfied with any result or any assistance anybody on here can give you :( But good luck on your search! :)
 
yeah i kinda dont like it...

realllly didnt like it at first, but i've grown to accept it more over the years.
 
I freaking hate iTunes. Programs for simple tasks like uploading music onto devices should be efficently coded, not resource hogs that are incredibly unintuitive and needlessly complicated.

Incredibly unintuitive and needlesly complicated? You couldn't do a simple google search for an itunes alternative so I'll take those statements with a pinch of salt.

Why can't we just drag and drop music and videos directly onto our phone like we can with just about every other media player? I already have all of my music organized just as I want it on my computer. Just let me drag the folders I want directly into the iPhone without having to bother with a 100mb download that runs like crap.

There's absolutely no excuse why such a simple function needs such a complicated program.

Yes there is. It's called media organization/management. Your explorer folders are going out of style, deal with it. Took me 2 days to transform my folder-based mp3 collection to an id3-based one and it was well worth it.



iTunes is also slow and buggy as hell on Windows 7.

No it's not. Win7 64-bit here, not a single issue.

Plus it's loaded with bloatware. It comes with Quicktime and Bonjour and all this other nonsense I don't need, it insists on launching a background application everytime you boot up Windows, and still takes forever to load even on a state of the art windows based system! If I uninstall Quicktime, iTunes stops working as well. Why exactly does iTunes need Quicktime to run?

You have 4GB of RAM just as I do; why is a couple of services an issue for you?


Apple, just create a Media folder on the iPhone and let us drag and drop whatever media we want into it. I don't need this slow buggy interface and pain in the ass syncing, acquiring album art, accidently deleting your music when you sync it and all the other nonsense that comes with iTunes.

I hope you knew full well what kind of syncing philosophy Apple pushes when you were buying your iPhone. :)
 
I find that iTunes runs extremely fast on on my MP, but does suck on Win 7. It's a windoze thing mostly. ;)
 
Itunes uses 5% of my CPU on my new MBP. Songbird uses 12%+. Granted the machine specs are ridiculous, 8 gb ram, 256 GB ssd, i7 2.66 ghz, but on your next computer purchase itunes shouldn't be an issue. I don't see how you can complain about bloat.

I actually want an alternative but for none of the reasons you are ranting about. The reasons to hate Itunes, is the Itunes music store which has horrible prices and policies compared to the competition, and the complete lack of integration with regard to 3rd party music services. (lastfm, hypem, etc.) If you are using windows i suggest one of the numerous alternatives for music syncing (yes you might have to fire up itunes for video sync).
 
Programs for simple tasks like uploading music onto devices should be efficently coded, not resource hogs.

I don't know anything about coding, and I do agree with many of your complaints, but do remember this: iTunes does way more than upload music onto a device. It is one of the tasks iTunes performs, not the only task. iTunes is designed to also be a media library, which requires coding. And let's not forget the other half of iTunes, which is the iTunes store. These things no doubt contribute to the size of the program.
 
iTunes needs to be rewritten from the ground up, right now it is a big piece of bloated garbage. They should go the quicktime X route.

I agree. Hopefully soon they will rewrite iTunes as a Cocoa app. It's the only Mac OS X app by Apple to remain a Carbon app. When it's rewritten, the speed should improve significantly. I'm sure they'll migrate it to 64-bit too.

I'm running iTunes on a 2.8 GHz C2D iMac with 8 GB memory. I can tell when iTunes is running, syncing, etc. because the general responsiveness of other apps takes a hit. It's not a huge hit, but it is noticeable.
 
Thanks to iTunes, I stopped listening to music on my iPhone and on my MacBook Pros.

iTunes is the most annoying, bloated and outdated junk ware that is just a disgrace to OS X.


I haven't used Windows for about four or five years apart from a few occasions but I still miss Winamp (and Total Commander, by the way). The easiest way to listen to music is by simple 'drag and drop'. Anything other than that sacrifices speed and control.
 
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