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What happens if you got multiple devices?

What do you do for back up?

How do you find your songs?

Is it so hard to drag and drop into iTunes?
 
Add me to the list of people who hate iTunes on a PC.

People talk about Flash turning on Mac cpu fans... well iTunes turns on my laptop fan. Often it seems to stop for minutes at a time.

What I really don't like is the concept of one-way sync. It should be able to start out a new computer by grabbing all the files _from_ the device.

For example, I wanted to set up an iPod touch and/or iPad for my parents by preloading lots of family pictures on it.

But if I do that, then the first time they sync up on their own PC the files will disappear. And no, I can't ask them to set up manual management.

If there's another way around it, please let me know.
 
I freaking hate iTunes. It's such a pain in the ass. Incredibly unintuitive and complicated for uploading music and videos onto the phone.

Why can't we just drag and drop music and videos directly onto our phone like we can with just about every other media player?

iTunes is also slow and buggy as hell on Windows 7. Plus it's bloatware. It comes with Quicktime and Bonjour and all this other nonsense I don't need, it insists on launching a background application everytime you boot up Windows, and still takes forever to load even on a state of the art windows based system!


I love everything else about the iPhone mind you. Just iTunes is so needlessly complicated, bloated, buggy and slow.

Just create a Media folder on the iPhone and let us drag and drop whatever media we want into it. I don't need this slow buggy interface and pain in the ass syncing, acquiring album art, accidently deleting your music when you sync it and all the other nonsense that comes with iTunes.

The PC is running a 2.6 Ghz Core 2 Duo with an ATI 5830 GPU, 4 GB of ram, and a terabyte hdd. It's regularly maintained with ccleaner and Microsoft Security Essentials. It can run Photoshop, Maya, Final Cut Pro, compile code etc all without a hitch. It's not the PC that's the problem, it's iTunes. Why is a program whose function is something as simple as loading music onto a music player so bloated and slow? There's absolutely no excuse why such a simple function needs such a complicated program.

I've been trying to teach my parents how to do even basic things with it for years and it really is an unintuitive piece of crap, which is strange for Apple. I've been able to teach my parents to browse the internet, install and disable addons on firefox, use office, even use Photoshop for basic editing. But iTunes really is a pain in the ass.

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Stop Syncing duh. You can Manually drag and drop songs from iTunes. You just have to select it. When you plug in your iPhone, select it and it should show the main screen for your iPhone with it's data (GBs, name, software. etc) at the bottom there should be options to Sync or Manually put songs and videos on your iPhone.
 
Unless I'm going about it wrong, I'm actually more pissed that I can't install an application over 20MB on the iPhone/iPad over 3G, and when I'm lucky enough to grab it on iTunes installed on my PC at work, I can't simply plug in my iPhone/iPad to copy it over without it trying to resync and/or kill all the current apps and media in the process. I guess same goes for music and video, too.

I end up having to copying the IPA files to a flash drive, then bringing it home, dragging it into iTunes, then syncing up my iPhone/iPad.
 

Lol, if I'm a troll, why is it that the majority of the posters here seem to agree with my complaints.

Explain to me why it makes sense that a music management program is a 94MB download and takes a half hour to install?

Programs for simple tasks like uploading music onto devices should be efficently coded, not resource hogs.
 
i am sorry, but iTunes is not anything what you make it to be, its one of the best software's out there compared to everything else that does the same. Nothing can remotely compare to it because of how GOOD, intuitive, logical, fast it is..


i LOVE iTunes, obviously you need to learn how to use iTunes, or maybe a computer? lol....
 
I haven't used iTunes on Windows because Windows sucks. On the Mac, I have zero issues with iTunes. Works great!

As a suggestion, perhaps this is your problem:

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:)

Mark
 
I can't simply plug in my iPhone/iPad to copy it over without it trying to resync and/or kill all the current apps and media in the process. I guess same goes for music and video, too.

I end up having to copying the IPA files to a flash drive, then bringing it home, dragging it into iTunes, then syncing up my iPhone/iPad.

Sounds like something is set up wrong. If you have your device setup for "manual management" you simply drag it from the iTunes library onto the device as it shows up in the left of the screen, the cursor will become a little green plus sign, then release. It should not affect any of your existing apps / music / videos at all.
 
Unless I'm going about it wrong, I'm actually more pissed that I can't install an application over 20MB on the iPhone/iPad over 3G, and when I'm lucky enough to grab it on iTunes installed on my PC at work, I can't simply plug in my iPhone/iPad to copy it over without it trying to resync and/or kill all the current apps and media in the process. I guess same goes for music and video, too.

I end up having to copying the IPA files to a flash drive, then bringing it home, dragging it into iTunes, then syncing up my iPhone/iPad.

Ever heard of WiFi?

Add me to the list of people who hate iTunes on a PC.

People talk about Flash turning on Mac cpu fans... well iTunes turns on my laptop fan. Often it seems to stop for minutes at a time.

What I really don't like is the concept of one-way sync. It should be able to start out a new computer by grabbing all the files _from_ the device.

For example, I wanted to set up an iPod touch and/or iPad for my parents by preloading lots of family pictures on it.

But if I do that, then the first time they sync up on their own PC the files will disappear. And no, I can't ask them to set up manual management.

If there's another way around it, please let me know.

Fail. There are software that provides sync with iTunes
 
Yes really. I've been trying to teach my parents how to do even basic things with it for years and it really is an unintuitive piece of crap, which is strange for Apple. I've been able to teach my parents to browse the internet, install and disable addons on firefox, use office, even use Photoshop. But iTunes is a pain in the ass.

It would be so much simpler if we could simply drag and drop music and videos and what not directly into the iPhone.

Could it be that you can't show them how to use iTunes because you don't like the software? Just make a playlist "iPod playlist", set the iPod to use that playlist and then drag and drop using that playlist. But maybe you should learn how "smart playlists" work, they beat drag and drop any day.
 
Ok the half hour to install was an exageration. I don't remember exactly how long it took to install. But it was a long download and took far longer to install than I'm used to. Most programs I use download and install almost instantanously. There's no reason why a simple media management program shouldn't as well.
 
i do and even mine is slow and buggy. it also could use an upgrade to allow more things to drag into an ipod

What else are you looking to drag? You can drag and drop music, podcasts, playlists, audiobooks, video, and photos onto an iPod from iTunes -- not sure what else you'd be looking to drag and drop. If you were using an iPhone or an iPad you could drag and drop all of the above as well as apps, pdf's etc.

What else is it you're looking to drag onto your iPod from iTunes?

Ok the half hour to install was an exageration. I don't remember exactly how long it took to install.

Considering you exaggerated the install time, is there any other exaggeration about your initial post about your beef with iTunes we should be aware of? I would assume you're exaggerating on the drag and drop install of data too, correct?

Don't get me wrong -- I don't think iTunes is perfect, but it sounds very much like your grievances are more hardware / user related than anything. I could think of a few ways it could be improved as well, but the problems that you state really shouldn't be problems at all.

Hopefully there are some good alternative choices out there for you, like the one posted earlier! :)
 
Nope, the install time was the only thing I exaggerated regarding. The software itself I honestly feel is complete trash and not on par with Apple's high standards of efficiency and simplicity.

pwntunes definately looks appealing. I'm turned off by the having to enter in my iPhone serial number, and only being able to use it to manage one device per purchase aspect of it. I'll check it out whenever my iPhone 4 arrives and I have the serial number for it.


If it works as stated, leave it to some no name programmers to implement media management more efficiently than Apple.
 
I agree that iTunes sucks. While it generally works fine for me (on both Windows and Mac), it just tries to do too much. I hate feature-creep in programs, and iTunes is a prime example of this.
 
Nope, the install time was the only thing I exaggerated regarding. The software itself I honestly feel is complete trash and not on par with Apple's high standards of efficiency and simplicity.

Well that's okay - you can feel that way. Many of us don't feel that way. So it seems that the best solution is that those of us who have no problems with it just keep enjoying it, and for those who don't like could stop using it. Pretty simple solution :)
 
I will admit that I hated iTunes on my PC. I got my mac and fell in love with it. Not one issue since.

I agree it sucks on a PC much like Office on a Mac.
 
i didnt like itunes on my windows computer vista like 2 years ago

its a much better experience on mac

i have no problems with iTunes, but i do prefer the alternative like google's gmail integration, which is awesome

the phone is constantly syncing with your gmail account wirelessly, however no music integration


but for me iTunes is not a problem for me, but i prefer something better, but there is no real alternatives for the iPhone
 
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