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I dont think there's ever been one time that I have been in such a rush that the extra few seconds that my 3G takes to open an app has bothered me. A bump in speed for connecting to the internet(edge vs.3G) is one thing. A bump in speed of the OS in taking a few less seconds is not a big deal and IMHO, is not worth $199+ or the extra length of my contract.

But the speed of the internet is vastly improved from the 3G to the 3GS because of its increased ability to render webpages.
 
umm....yes, it is.

for me it is, was and shall remain worth it. it'll also be worth it when i get next year's model (should it be the new and improved model that cleans the house and walks the dog that most 3g owners are claiming it'll be).

don't bother getting into a discussion about if it's worth it or not, it's up to the individual so if you'd said that it wasn't worth it FOR YOU, it wouldn't have warranted a response but as you claimed it isn't worth it overall, insinuating that people that upgraded from the 3g (like myself) were wrong to do so, i felt the need to set you straight.

and ALL apps theoritically take advantage of the 3gs' speed, all of the ones i've used have opened faster so that's an advantage as i see it.

one last thing, you seem definite that the first "decent" app that will truly take advantage of the superior speed of the 3gs will be "only a few months away" from the release of the next iphone, what is the app and when is the next iphone coming out? the reason i ask is that you seem to be in the know.

Then why did you say, "it's worth it just to load the message app faster."? For you it is. Why are you criticizing me, when you did the exact same? For reference, we are talking about people upgrading, it's in the context of the thread from what the OP wrote.

Please, do not put words in my mouth. You wrote "It's worth it just to load the message app faster". And I responded "No, its not worth 400-700 just load the message app faster". This has nothing to do with anyone justifying their upgrade, or decision not to.

In fact, because you brought it up, it is clear you are VERY insecure about your purchase. The fact that you were set off, from something completely off topic, means that you're sensitive to the subject.

Hmmm...well then first iphone came out in july, the 2nd in july and the 3rd in may. It's a safe assumption to say it'll come out next summer, no? That one doesn't take a rocket scientist.:rolleyes:

As far as decent apps, well, I've seen plenty of article claiming the iPhone 3GS will out do the PSP. But, people expect the games to make it out in just a few months when they don't realize intricate apps like that take at least a year.

I suggest you read this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/30/games.iphone.3gs/index.html?iref=newssearch
 
I love my 8GB iPhone 3G and would lve to get an iPhone 3GS 32GB version, but my contract with AT&T states that I am not eligible until December 2009. Therefore I will wait until then, it might make a great Christmas Gift to myself, or when December rolls around I may decide to wait until the next iPhone release, which will likely be in June or July 2010.
 
I love my 8GB iPhone 3G and would lve to get an iPhone 3GS 32GB version, but my contract with AT&T states that I am not eligible until December 2009. Therefore I will wait until then, it might make a great Christmas Gift to myself, or when December rolls around I may decide to wait until the next iPhone release, which will likely be in June or July 2010.

Interesting point. From here forward, it's just going to get harder to buy the 3GS. We're already a month-in, so the next one will be coming out in 11 months, which isn't very long at all. It seems like the biggest bang for your buck is to buy it right when it comes out. From December to June is really not a long wait. Unless, you really need the extra space. Then it probably isn't a bad idea to just buy one sooner.
 
Ok picture this scenario, you are writing an email, you receive a text. You hit reply and type out a reply. You quit messages and go back to mail. You continue typing then you receive another reply text.

If you switch apps a lot which is certainly more probable now that we have Push notifications the seconds you save opening an app will quickly add up.

As for next years iPhone, I predict they may bump the speed of the A8 up a bit, but they are not going to go with a new architecture again, one year later.

Think about it from a business perspective. You have the 1st gen touch, iPhone 2G + 3G in one group, iPod touch 2G in another then the 3GS far off from the pack. There are some new multicore arm processors in development but I doubt Apple will use them next year, as developers will just be starting to utilize the speed of the 3GS by then.

Also don't forget faster 3G speeds, if AT&T ever upgrades their network.

Makes little sense for Apple NOT to upgrade to the A9 cortex, cheaper, faster and better battery life. Not to mention that it falls in line with their "Grand Central" theme of multi-core computers. (Not that the two have much to do together, but thought I'd throw it out there)

You say it'll leave the 3GS users behind? Yea, they're leaving the 3G users behind in power now, and the 2G users don't even have MMS. It's a simple fact that technology gets better and better ALL the time. Luckily you won't miss out on much as devs will always develop for the largest consumer base with will include last years model.
 
Makes little sense for Apple NOT to upgrade to the A9 cortex, cheaper, faster and better battery life. Not to mention that it falls in line with their "Grand Central" theme of multi-core computers. (Not that the two have much to do together, but thought I'd throw it out there)

That's what everybody has been saying about the iMac going quad-core and look where it is right now. Apple is always behind when it comes to hardware.

My prediction is next year will be a minor upgrade with a new case design, with A9 cortex and same case design in 2011. Doesn't matter to me either way because I'll get a new one each year by doing upgrade swap every other year.
 
That's what everybody has been saying about the iMac going quad-core and look where it is right now. Apple is always behind when it comes to hardware.

My prediction is next year will be a minor upgrade with a new case design, with A9 cortex and same case design in 2011. Doesn't matter to me either way because I'll get a new one each year by doing upgrade swap every other year.

There's more evidence against that actually. Most notably the name of the next iPhone.

In the firmware it was noted the next iPhone will be labeled as the iPhone3,1.

For reference the 2G is 1,1 the 3G 1,2 and the 3GS 2,1. This would be there is going to be a significant upgrade planned from apple other than a simple case change and feature addition like the 3g. Other wise it would be called 2,2.

The change in unit number usually coincides with a processor change, which would point to the A9.:D
 
Then why did you say, "it's worth it just to load the message app faster."? For you it is. Why are you criticizing me, when you did the exact same? For reference, we are talking about people upgrading, it's in the context of the thread from what the OP wrote.

Please, do not put words in my mouth. You wrote "It's worth it just to load the message app faster". And I responded "No, its not worth 400-700 just load the message app faster". This has nothing to do with anyone justifying their upgrade, or decision not to.

In fact, because you brought it up, it is clear you are VERY insecure about your purchase. The fact that you were set off, from something completely off topic, means that you're sensitive to the subject.

Hmmm...well then first iphone came out in july, the 2nd in july and the 3rd in may. It's a safe assumption to say it'll come out next summer, no? That one doesn't take a rocket scientist.:rolleyes:

As far as decent apps, well, I've seen plenty of article claiming the iPhone 3GS will out do the PSP. But, people expect the games to make it out in just a few months when they don't realize intricate apps like that take at least a year.

I suggest you read this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/06/30/games.iphone.3gs/index.html?iref=newssearch

"Please, do not put words in my mouth. You wrote "It's worth it just to load the message app faster"."


how ironic, you use something i didn't even write to make a point about me putting words in your mouth.

care to go back and see who actually DID write that? i can assure you it wasn't me.

if you don't even know WHO you're talking about it's safe to say you have no idea WHAT you're talking about so i'll happily ignore the rest of your post as it wouldn't be right to comment on what you've said considering you made yourself look foolish in the opening paragraph.

i suggest you read this article:

http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/tutorials/0,1000002006,39286660,00.htm
 
For reference the 2G is 1,1 the 3G 1,2 and the 3GS 2,1. This would be there is going to be a significant upgrade planned from apple other than a simple case change and feature addition like the 3g. Other wise it would be called 2,2.

The change in unit number usually coincides with a processor change, which would point to the A9.:D

Good. Now 3G owners can stop calling the 3GS an insignificant update.
 

"Please, do not put words in my mouth. You wrote "It's worth it just to load the message app faster"."


how ironic, you use something i didn't even write to make a point about me putting words in your mouth.

care to go back and see who actually DID write that? i can assure you it wasn't me.

if you don't even know WHO you're talking about it's safe to say you have no idea WHAT you're talking about so i'll happily ignore the rest of your post as it wouldn't be right to comment on what you've said considering you made yourself look foolish in the opening paragraph.

i suggest you read this article:

http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/tutorials/0,1000002006,39286660,00.htm

You're right, you didn't write that, my bad but you did agree with it. A quick summary (taken from all that was written), hence why I assumed it was you wrote it:

The instant opening of the messages app alone is well worth the cost.

Umm....no, it's not. $400-700 for a faster opening app is NOT worth the cost.

umm....yes, it is.

So, please explain to me how its worth 400-700 to open a message app a few seconds faster? :rolleyes:

and actually it's not ironic. It's just a pet peeve of mine of people misusing the word ironic. Perhaps you should read your own article.
 
Not eligible for an upgrade

I am not eligible for an upgrade. So for me the answer is pretty simple. I will be keeping my 3G till at least next summer and unless the new iphone next year is really a revolutionary new phone I will still be keeping my 3G. To me the speed bump, and video camera and voice commands were all nice touches and for $200 would be worth it, but I'm not paying $499 and $599 respectively for what is just a phone.
 
So, please explain to me how its worth 400-700 to open a message app a few seconds faster? :rolleyes:

Mac owners are even worse; they upgrade to the latest MBP that is a few seconds faster, even in the same form factor and with all the same features.

At least with the 3GS you get new features like video recording, oleophobic-coated screen, etc. and other improvements like faster web rendering, etc.
 
Some 2G/3G owners just like their old phone. OK? They don't have to justify why they are not upgrading it. It's just a damn phone. I'm sick of few 3GS owners think everyone have to have the latest and greatest. Someone mentioned he is keeping his 2G because doesn't like 3G and get flamed just because he doesn't like 3G's back casing. WTF? Let people buy/upgrade whenever they want.
 
I still love my 2G and they can flame me all they want. You guys are welcome to also, haha! But anyway, my justification is that the aluminum feels more luxurious to me in my hand and there's nothing wrong with it speed-wise that is pushing me to upgrade to the 3GS. I still want the 3GS because of the GPS part because riding a motorcycle with a full gps kit isn't so smart.

Oh and for a plus, the back part of the 2G matches colors with my uMBP. :D
 
Nothing that really entices me this year. Sure, increased RAM and CPU power is nice, but it's not like I use the phone for playing intensive games. It certainly doesn't warrant another $200. I'll wait until next June.
 
I'm still happily chugging away on my 6/29/07 gen-1 iPhone. I know the 3G is way better than what I have, and I know the 3GS is better still. I'm excited to get one as soon as I get around to it, too. I just haven't. I've been really busy the last two years, and any time I get a free moment I'd usually rather spend the time with family and friends or just doing nothing. It's the weirdest thing, because I'm usually the first guy to fall for any kind of tech-lust. I'm still looking forward to getting one, but it's just fallen on my priority list lately.
 
Some 2G/3G owners just like their old phone. OK? They don't have to justify why they are not upgrading it. It's just a damn phone. I'm sick of few 3GS owners think everyone have to have the latest and greatest. Someone mentioned he is keeping his 2G because doesn't like 3G and get flamed just because he doesn't like 3G's back casing. WTF? Let people buy/upgrade whenever they want.

So you think 3GS owners are the problem? I didn't upgrade to 3G when I had the original iPhone, but we didn't encounter a flurry of 2G owners putting the 3G down as an insignificant update at the time of its debut. Sounds like certain 3G owners are the problem.
 
So you think 3GS owners are the problem? I didn't upgrade to 3G when I had the original iPhone, but we didn't encounter a flurry of 2G owners putting the 3G down as an insignificant update at the time of its debut. Sounds like certain 3G owners are the problem.

Just the opposite. Now there's a heated battle between which is the larger/more significant upgrade 2G->3G or 3G->3GS, and its going both ways.

All the 3G owners say the 3GS is a small upgrade, and vice versa for 2G to 3G. It's actually quite weird how it's turned people into two different "camps" based on what upgrade year they belong to. Almost like a VHS vs Betamax except with the same freaking phone!
 
The next time I see a motorcyclist speed past me at 60 mph checking the GPS on his iPhone I'll know that's you.

Haha, I'll probably stop at a pit stop or the side of the road to check my location every once in a while. I do that sometimes when I bring my Nokia E71 with me. I don't want to die looking down to see what exit for a second.
 
Just the opposite. Now there's a heated battle between which is the larger/more significant upgrade 2G->3G or 3G->3GS, and its going both ways.

All the 3G owners say the 3GS is a small upgrade, and vice versa for 2G to 3G. It's actually quite weird how it's turned people into two different "camps" based on what upgrade year they belong to. Almost like a VHS vs Betamax except with the same freaking phone!

It's a losing battle for 3G owners. Why are they so materialistic that if Apple had given the 3GS even a slight case redesign they'd all of sudden call it a significant upgrade?
 
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