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Who left Lion, and reverted to SL?
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At socrate you do know we at macrumors make up like, less than 0.001 percent right? This poll in relation to actual numbers holds no relevance whatsoever.
Windows 8 is even more of a radical departure from Windows 7 than Lion was from Snow Leopard. If you think Lion has gotten too much like a tablet OS, then you won't like Windows 8, either. The Start menu is gone, replaced by the WP7-style Metro UI. While the desktop UI is still there for legacy applications, the focus will be on the Metro apps, which run full screen.
There actually re-thinking that and listening to their developer base actually. Just read something on that last week.
I think the point he's making is that the jump from SL to Lion hindered productivity in many ways. There are a ton of little changes, both in UI and functionality, that make Lion a bit f a bother to many people.
That's the reason I haven't used my free upgrade. The fact that there are no spaces and expose is a big hit; the UI tweaks that are more demanding on system resources isn't what I like either.
I'm missing out on iCloud but I'm willing to let that pass for the speed and efficiency I have with SL.
Not quite true. For the developer preview it only takes one registry value change and the W7 start screen is returned. I get the green log on screen and then it immediately goes to the windows desktop which I have configured exactly like my two W7 installations.
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True. Unlike another company that I'm familiar with MSFT openly dialoging with developers and users. It's getting pretty hot over there at http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/ . My guess is that Metro will be there for tablets while Aero will be for desktop users. If that turns out to be true all users will win.
I would love to see Apple take the same approach.
Planning to do so today from a Carbon Copy Clone backup.
The pointless and unnecessary Finder redesign, the loss of my beloved 'Find by Filename' keyboard shortcut (coupled with spotlight indexing of NTFS drives, this actually led to cross-drive format indexing bliss...alas too briefly), pointless cosmetic rubbish in lieu of real value, problems starting up, and other issues described already in this thread.
At least MS listened and acknowledged complaints of Vista and produced something in many ways superior to even Snow Leopard in Win7. Will Apple do the same?
The pointless and unnecessary Finder redesign, the loss of my beloved 'Find by Filename' keyboard shortcut (coupled with spotlight indexing of NTFS drives, this actually led to cross-drive format indexing bliss...alas too briefly), pointless cosmetic rubbish in lieu of real value, problems starting up, and other issues described already in this thread.
At least MS listened and acknowledged complaints of Vista and produced something in many ways superior to even Snow Leopard in Win7. Will Apple do the same?
You folks want to know what pisses me off about this whole Lion/iCloud mess.
I posted in another thread this problem.
I have SL on my MBA; but my son and wife have iOS 5 and Lion on their machines (they could care less, as long as email and internet/gaming is OK)
I also moved them to iCloud (only those 2 accounts) because I wanted to use find my friends with my son's device and other features on iOS5.
Did my homework. Even emailed Tim Cook about the mess w/iCloud-MM (it was not a rant btw, it was kindly worded). Got a call same day from executive relations. Long story short, lady tells me SL will still work with MM, no problem and with iCloud they work in sync blah blah...
So, I move them to iCloud. Back up their cal's and addy's. Done.
Now comes the fun part. Our shared calendars (2 of them) (1) Travel and (2) My sons school Calendar (extremely busy schedule) can NO LONGER be shared!
Can you believe this, now on my MM It says that I need iCloud to share a MM calendar with an iCloud (family). WTF
Can't run Lion, must upgrade to iCloud to share a f'n calendar with my Wife and son, and if I do upgrade to iCloud- guess what; I need Lion.
So so so disgusted.
I posted in another thread this problem.
I have SL on my MBA; but my son and wife have iOS 5 and Lion on their machines (they could care less, as long as email and internet/gaming is OK)
I also moved them to iCloud (only those 2 accounts) because I wanted to use find my friends with my son's device and other features on iOS5.
Did my homework. Even emailed Tim Cook about the mess w/iCloud-MM (it was not a rant btw, it was kindly worded). Got a call same day from executive relations. Long story short, lady tells me SL will still work with MM, no problem and with iCloud they work in sync blah blah...
So, I move them to iCloud. Back up their cal's and addy's. Done.
Now comes the fun part. Our shared calendars (2 of them) (1) Travel and (2) My sons school Calendar (extremely busy schedule) can NO LONGER be shared!
Can you believe this, now on my MM It says that I need iCloud to share a MM calendar with an iCloud (family). WTF
Can't run Lion, must upgrade to iCloud to share a f'n calendar with my Wife and son, and if I do upgrade to iCloud- guess what; I need Lion.
So so so disgusted.
I don't even know what to do anymore (as outlined in this thread). Switching from Lion to Snow Leopard didn't solve anything and switching back to Lion and applying the recent MacBook Pro Video Update didn't fix anything. Still get the BSOD bug.
I can't afford a new computer now and frankly I shouldn't have to buy one because Apple's OS update messed my computer up. This is just a mess.
I can't afford a new computer now and frankly I shouldn't have to buy one because Apple's OS update messed my computer up. This is just a mess.
I would love to be able to upgrade to Lion and use iCloud and whatever else. I've already paid for it, bought it on the day it came out BUT it made my iMac freeze ALL THE TIME. I'm contemplating upgrading again and seeing if the issue has gone away yet... there haven't been many posts about that issue recently...
After doing a clean install of Lion, I've found that it works a lot better now than it was when I upgraded to it from SL. It runs faster and I don't encounter the slowdowns or glitches I had anymore.
My only complain right now is that I am getting the BSOD bug.
My only complain right now is that I am getting the BSOD bug.
Took my neighbors iMac for her business back down to SL yesterday. Just could not get it to act right. Problems galore, albeit a 2009 iMac, but has 4g ram I installed.
SL runs quick and smooth. Go figure, save me time in being neighborly with tech support.
SL runs quick and smooth. Go figure, save me time in being neighborly with tech support.
I have for the time being, removed my HD with Lion installed and installed SL on another HD and installed it in my MBP. This will allow me to one day easily move back to SL once I feel it has improved.
I had gotten tired of my MBP with 4GB ram taking forever to do things in my browsers such as Safari. Refreshing a tab would sometimes take five minutes or more. It was sometimes faster to just to force quit the browser and restart it than to wait for the tab to refresh.
I don't use my MBp for much anymore other than internet and iTunes for movies and TV shows and such but it was having trouble doing these things under Lion.
I had gotten tired of my MBP with 4GB ram taking forever to do things in my browsers such as Safari. Refreshing a tab would sometimes take five minutes or more. It was sometimes faster to just to force quit the browser and restart it than to wait for the tab to refresh.
I don't use my MBp for much anymore other than internet and iTunes for movies and TV shows and such but it was having trouble doing these things under Lion.
Sounds like a show stopper to me.
I understand folks sticking to Lion with all the minor annoyances and changes - it does have a few niceties. But this?
Quote from mom.
Why do I have to keep reconnecting to my wifi son? The other one worked better.
--> wishes he did not help by putting Lion on the MBP for her, gives her Tim's email addy.
Why do I have to keep reconnecting to my wifi son? The other one worked better.
--> wishes he did not help by putting Lion on the MBP for her, gives her Tim's email addy.
I went as far as deleting the Lion restore partition that came on my macbooks hard drive.
Its been a few months without Lion, and I love working with Expose. Also, SL uses less RAM
Its been a few months without Lion, and I love working with Expose. Also, SL uses less RAM
I've had a few problems, but nothing that I didn't ultimately cause.
There are some things I don't like, but for some perverse and irrational (graphics maybe) reason I just really like it.
I think it will only be a matter of time before it ranked as highly as Leopard, Snow Leopard. Tiger and Panther.
There are some things I don't like, but for some perverse and irrational (graphics maybe) reason I just really like it.
I think it will only be a matter of time before it ranked as highly as Leopard, Snow Leopard. Tiger and Panther.
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That's not saying much. As time goes on people who have never used previous versions of OSX will never miss what they never had.
Sounds like a show stopper to me.
I understand folks sticking to Lion with all the minor annoyances and changes - it does have a few niceties. But this?
It happens even in SL after I installed Lion. It is the worst bug ever. I am taking the computer to the authorized Apple shop here.
Alright how do I revert back to SL .... I have 514GB of data I cannot lose .. so a fresh install of SL is out.... anybody .... my main beef is the 2 - 5 time longer to connect to network either RJ45 or Wifi.....
Thanks or if there is no way then I will know....The apple experience may have flaws but 'll never go back to a M$ OS as my main box.... Univ provides a Dell i5 with Win7 enterprise ... but just can't get excited about it.... OS X rocks and that's from an old fart.....
Thanks or if there is no way then I will know....The apple experience may have flaws but 'll never go back to a M$ OS as my main box.... Univ provides a Dell i5 with Win7 enterprise ... but just can't get excited about it.... OS X rocks and that's from an old fart.....