It seems that in the forums there are quite a few of us that run VMs. I'm particularly interested in seeing how this machine does with a VM, and I'm hoping someone does a review of that.
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Who wont be ditching the current MBA
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It seems that in the forums there are quite a few of us that run VMs. I'm particularly interested in seeing how this machine does with a VM, and I'm hoping someone does a review of that.
Of course the CPU will affect all performance, but I think most people will be surprised with how well they do. I guess we'll have to disagree.
Most people will be using it for e-mail, browsing, and office tasks. Most people wouldn't be able to detect the difference between a 1GHz and 2GHz dual core CPU without queuing up some Handbrake or something.
And yeah, plenty of people use VMs.. especially on Macs. Dual booting is a pita.
Using an enthusiasts forum to gauge the overall user base is laughable at best.
Same reason why 8GB of RAM is pointless on for most of target user base of this new Macbook. If someone can willingly downgrade to a Core M from an Air or Pro, they probably weren't doing anything that requires 8GB of RAM anyway.
I don't think anyone here said they wouldn't run at all, that wasn't the point in the first place.
Definitely not going to ditch my MBA. Of course the retina screen is nice but at what cost? Not being able to pop in a jump drive or easily plug my iphone or ipad into my laptop without having an 80 dollar adapter. Not to mention if something goes wrong with that port, all connectivity options are lost. The limited ports on the MBA weren't terrible because wifi is everywhere and there are still two usb ports and a sd slot.
This new machine is way overpriced. Yes it has 8GB of ram (not necessary with the processor it has) and 256SSD which is nice.
1300 bucks for a downgraded processor, slower graphics, and 25 percent less battery life than what I have now? No thanks.
Anyone who really needs or wants retina should get the refurbished 2014 rMBP. 2.6/8/128 is only $979.00. That is a much better deal than this new machine.
This new machine is way overpriced. Yes it has 8GB of ram (not necessary with the processor it has) and 256SSD which is nice.
1300 bucks for a downgraded processor, slower graphics, and 25 percent less battery life than what I have now? No thanks.
Anyone who really needs or wants retina should get the refurbished 2014 rMBP. 2.6/8/128 is only $979.00. That is a much better deal than this new machine.
Man I was really hoping for a retina air. I'm on my third and love it, so I suppose my 2013 will be mine for another year. I like others use at as my main machine running VM with all other work related software. Also, hate to be rid of my 24" apple display.
That MacBook is nice but not a workhorse imo.
That MacBook is nice but not a workhorse imo.
I'm not sure if i am going to ditch mine or not. I just got my 2014 macbook air in the middle of last year.
I was the last person to believe that Apple might use Intel's low-end "fanless" tablet processor in a laptop but saying that the only thing it'll be good for is web surfing is disingenuous.
For most people in most situations, its performance will be indistinguishable from a current MBA's.
I have a 2014 11" MBA and will probably continue to use it for the next few years. The new MacBook is not enough of an upgrade/sidegrade to interest me.
I'm not going to pretend that the new MacBook isn't (mostly) better than my MBA though. Twice the RAM, twice the drive space, 3 times the pixels, 7% bigger screen, 20% lighter, smaller footprint, and plus it can be charged via USB which means no more relatively large, proprietary wall charger to pack. Although I might have to pack a USB-C hub.
Except that USB-C is a standard and nobody is making you buy Apple products to connect to it.
In fact, this is kind of the opposite of a money grab because you'll be able to charge the new MB via USB, which means Apple won't be selling those MagSafe wall adapters anymore with their 1000% markups.
Can Apple do anything that prevents getting power and using it as a USB/video port/etc. at the same time? What justifies the high cost of Apple's dongle? Apple loves their proprietary accessories so if this is truly open then that's a surprise.
Regardless, I would've rather they spent the extra 50 cents to add a proper USB connector even if it meant adding another 1mm to the thickness. Or better yet, upgrade the existing MBAs to retina and let the people that want an ultrathin, dongled computer have their day with the new 12".
USB-C is a proper USB connector.
It's where everything is headed. It's just new and novel enough that you don't realize it.
People that are saying 8gb ram is too much obviously aren't considering the retina screen it has to run, no dedicated graphics will make it use system memory...
I like the look, but one usb-c port is something I'm curious about.
Here in Australia the base price is 1700! I'm still using my 2012 11" and havent seen a need to upgrade. I was using a retina 13" for a while and loved the retina display so that is something I am wanting...
Just have to see how this m processor holds up
I like the look, but one usb-c port is something I'm curious about.
Here in Australia the base price is 1700! I'm still using my 2012 11" and havent seen a need to upgrade. I was using a retina 13" for a while and loved the retina display so that is something I am wanting...
Just have to see how this m processor holds up
I use my 2012 Mac Mini with its Intel HD whatever-thousand and it drives my 2560x1440 external monitor just fine with 4GB RAM.
Just picked up a maxed out 2013 MBA (i7 1.7Ghz/8GB/512GB) for $1000 less than a week ago. No way I am going to downgrade to that new Chromebook... I mean Macbook.
I'm keeping my 2014 11 inch MBA. A laptop without ports is not an option for me. It's really thin and has a retina display but my MBA is already light if I want to carry it around. Also I'd rather buy a rMBP if I wanted a retina display. I also have an iPad air 2 so I don't need an iPad with a keyboard. I can save myself a lot and just buy a keyboard.
Is the new Macbook supposed to replace the MBA? I don't think so. Many people use their MBAs as their main machine, me included, and I doubt many will opt to change to the Macbook unless they never, or rarely, need to connect anything. It's probable that within a few years everything will be wireless and so ports will become entirely redundant.
If I remember, a lot of people said the MBA was far too pared down to be a serious machine, but........
For now I'll either keep my MBA or upgrade to a MBP.
If I remember, a lot of people said the MBA was far too pared down to be a serious machine, but........
For now I'll either keep my MBA or upgrade to a MBP.
I've reached a small barrier with my 2012 Air, computationally speaking. I do a lot more work with photo editing and recording so the new Macbook is certainly not for me, and I totally understand that for a good portion of the general populous, it's perfect. I'm waiting until the refresh the 15 inch pro before I ultimately decide which size Pro I want.
I am glad I got a used mba 13 core i7 8gb ram for 900 dollars instead of waiting for this beautiful but crappy hardware product
I thought that the MBA 11" was nearly perfect when I bought it a year ago, and the new Macbook doesn't have anything to cause me to think differently.
I do feel a bit sorry for those who simply wanted a retina version of the MBA 11 and had been waiting all this time. But at least they can now make a decision since the "other shoe" has dropped.
I do feel a bit sorry for those who simply wanted a retina version of the MBA 11 and had been waiting all this time. But at least they can now make a decision since the "other shoe" has dropped.
I will stick with my MBA I got August 2014 because for me having ports on a laptop is more portability than connecting adapters to one port and making connections.
Moreover I love the lit up Apple logo on the MBA which is missing from the Macbook and for the price it is not worth it I rather upgrade to Pro Retina if I decide to spend 1300$
Moreover I love the lit up Apple logo on the MBA which is missing from the Macbook and for the price it is not worth it I rather upgrade to Pro Retina if I decide to spend 1300$
I'm wondering how much Skylake will change the performance of this machine, I'll probably hold out until then.
Theoretically YES.
OWC conducted some tests with a Mac Pro blade SSD in a 2014 Retina and it hit over 1200 MB/s. Using that SSD enabled the 4 lanes available in the PCI SSD, which are enabled exclusively in the Retina MacBook Pro 15" equipped with the 1 TB SSD. We will always see different SSD manufacturers with different speed, I'd be happy if the slowest 128 SanDisk SSD would hit 700 MB writing too.
Link:
blog.macsales.com/25878-owc-gets-1200mbs-from-ssd-in-2014-macbook-pro-with-retina-display
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I've been waiting for the announcement and I think the new MB is quite nice, but I worry about first generation. I worry about touch typing. When it came down to it, $679 for a refurb 2014/11 inch was too good to pass up. I know I like the keyboard and that it won't overheat and all I really do is write anyway. If it runs Scrivener (and anything will), it's good enough for me.