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Why all the whining about iOS 6?
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Acquiring a mapping company and developing an in-house application was free to Apple, right?
I don't suppose it was free at all. It looks like apple spent at least twenty quid cobbling it together.
The ignorance sometimes is astounding, anything to defend Apple's shortcomings.
There's a vast difference between being usable and something that is flawed. Apple should be very embarrassed with Apple Maps.
All software has bugs, but there's a line for which there are too many bugs. Apple crossed that line. If any company replaces software for something else you'd expect the replacement to be close to the original application. Maps does not meet this criteria.. not close.
I'm not concerned if people worked day and night to get maps out.. if its flawed, its flawed and nothing will change that.
Would you be happy with a new car which its wheels fell off a kilometre down the road? Hey, but its OK, its from your favourite company so it doesn't matter.
Please, stop apologizing for Apple. Apple goofed up big time. There are no excuses. Ultimately, maps wasn't ready, Apple knew this and should have delayed its release.
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I'm glad I didn't listen to the gripes about ios6 and the iPad. My iPad 3 now feels like my old iPad 2. Much more zippy and SIRI is very useful for me.
I'm happy, and I'm an android nazi. If the iPhone had the eye candy that android has as well as google maps, then I'd be all over it.
I'm happy, and I'm an android nazi. If the iPhone had the eye candy that android has as well as google maps, then I'd be all over it.
My specific issues I have already mentioned some here on these forums, but bad routing is one of them, such as driving through a backyard to get on to a road.
Ultimately, I have no confidence in Apple Maps, therefore I'm not going to use it for navigation or indeed for POI. I just don't trust it.
Now, not all of iOS6 is a train wreck, it does have some nice functionality. Having said that I see iOS6 as 'plain jane' - there is nothing that wows me. Passbook shows promise but whether it is successful lies in good enough support.
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probably the right decision would have been to release iphone5 and ion for the US market only, and bring to europe and the rest of the world in a few months.
so far the maps (on iPhone 4) are okay, not amazing, but it is nice they are on the cloud and will be improved with development and crowd sourcing over time - google maps has a long headstart but i expect apple maps will be acceptable in short time.
i can appreciate the winging from UK users, but its not like there aren't alternatives already - and id expect google's own app to arrive in short order as well... giving consumers choice.
perhaps expectations were a bit lofty at this stage in the game (ver 6)...
reading some of the threads, you'd think people were personally butthurt because their home is not precisely identified on the map. if you know where you live you don't need a map to get there, and like i said, none of these issues are insurmountable... they will always improve with time and resources and experience.
for those who are too young to remember, google maps was no great shakes on its premier either.
so far the maps (on iPhone 4) are okay, not amazing, but it is nice they are on the cloud and will be improved with development and crowd sourcing over time - google maps has a long headstart but i expect apple maps will be acceptable in short time.
i can appreciate the winging from UK users, but its not like there aren't alternatives already - and id expect google's own app to arrive in short order as well... giving consumers choice.
perhaps expectations were a bit lofty at this stage in the game (ver 6)...
reading some of the threads, you'd think people were personally butthurt because their home is not precisely identified on the map. if you know where you live you don't need a map to get there, and like i said, none of these issues are insurmountable... they will always improve with time and resources and experience.
for those who are too young to remember, google maps was no great shakes on its premier either.
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The ripping of the new maps app is understandable, but it's hard to believe that people would really think that apple's first crack at maps would be equal to a product google has been refining for seven years!
The maps and turn by turn are fine for my area for now, but when the google app comes out in the future I'll download it as a backup.
On the whole I'm happy with iOS6
The ripping of the new maps app is understandable, but it's hard to believe that people would really think that apple's first crack at maps would be equal to a product google has been refining for seven years!
The maps and turn by turn are fine for my area for now, but when the google app comes out in the future I'll download it as a backup.
On the whole I'm happy with iOS6
I fail to see how that is relevant. If you replace a core app with another one, it has to be comparable or close to it. Some people seem to think Apple should get a free pass because they haven't been doing it as long as Google. Most people will take the view that a useful and mostly trustworthy map has been replaced with a crappy one. It is not their concern to feel sorry for Apple having a hard time producing a quality effort, while they have $100 billion doing nothing in the bank. At a minimum, Apple have been working towards this moment for three years, and as much as five years depending on which sources you believe. This is a major fail, the biggest we have seen from Apple in a long time, and there's no excuses that mitigate that.
I was originally going to post here to complain about the new maps app. I was checking to see how it handled transit directions. It felt like Apple was giving me the finger when I first clicked the "Bus" icon and unlike the previous version, where it "just worked", it displayed a list of apps that I could download instead. I thought "Hey, why stop at mass transit directions? Then they might jsut as well turn the whole OS into a bunch of suggestions of apps to download.".
But anyway, I found an app that i downloaded that displays the directions just fine after entering it in the maps app. So, for me at least, it now works okay. It's worse than before, but it does indeed work.
But anyway, I found an app that i downloaded that displays the directions just fine after entering it in the maps app. So, for me at least, it now works okay. It's worse than before, but it does indeed work.
its relevant only in that software development is an iterative process. nobody is feeling sorry for apple...
clearly there are other options out there if maps is your absolute must-have requirement...
if you're not an early adopter and prepared to put up with the iterative process, then it is probably better to wait until everyone is doing it and the software and hardware has been refined to the point of a mass market / household name product that virtually everyone has. innovation always introduces artifacts and kinks that need to be worked out, once those have been worked out, copied by every competitor and spread across the unwashed masses, its no longer innovative.
I don't think people expected it to be as good as Google Maps. They just expected a suitable replacement, which Apple haven't provided.
I think what people like me,Steve,& others have been saying is that you shouldn't release a worse product than before.
And If maps was the ONLY thing wrong with iOS 6 I'd be on your side,people need to chill and download an app. But people are saying 5.1.1 was better OVERALL. Not good at all
People are paying a premium for iphones and expect a high quality product to match the extra $$$ they pay.
It was too calculated of Cook to go with their inferior maps. Sacrificing quality is not the Apple we all know. Cook needs a new job, like at Microsoft.
It was too calculated of Cook to go with their inferior maps. Sacrificing quality is not the Apple we all know. Cook needs a new job, like at Microsoft.
I would agree that maps aren't great...but as many have noted they work well (even better than google's) for some things...and I would expect the pace of its improvement to accelerate as more users provide data.
The part of your statement that I don't agree with is about iOS 6. For a x.0 release, it is, by far, the best Apple has released. The performance improvement for my iPhone 4 is off the charts...it's like a new phone. Similarly our iPad 3 is great with iOS 6...I haven't loaded it on the 3GS yet...but will soon.
For every previous release, there were hundreds of comments about phones lagging and this not performing as well as it did...fortunately in this case, it is really only in maps that there is any outright degradation (loss of transit and street view). searching in my area is not bad, but I have noticed that the algorithm is too specific...if you give it too much information it won't find what you are looking for...ironically, when I have done that it has found several instances...including my original search...go figure!